Three Card Condi, Uncurious George and the Ghost of Payne Stewart

[RBHam]

Three Card Condi, Uncurious George and the Ghost of Payne Stewart

Directly after the tragic events of 9-11, National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice informed us all that nobody could have predicted hijackers would have slammed planes into buildings. This statement was in response to questions about the astounding absence of the Air Force. That was the context of the controversy. How come jets weren't scrambled in time? How could a third plane hit the Pentagon almost an hour after the WTC incidents? Moreover why weren’t Standard Operating Procedures followed? Whenever a plane goes off course their transponders immediately alert NORAD. Routinely, jets are then scrambled. Remember Payne Stewart's Lear Jet?

On Thursday April 8, Ms. Rice finally testified before the 9-11 commission after months of refusal. Rice’s toughest moments were when she defended the Administration’s response to a Presidential Daily Briefing on August 6th, which discussed terrorists hijacking planes and using explosives to disrupt the nation.
I was hoping that this would have come up in the context of why the nation's defenses had failed that day.

Good luck. Even the Democrats on the panel seemed uninterested in the complete lack of response from the Air Force on 9-11. In fact, the complete farce that the 9-11 commission is was revealed by their complete lack of interest in many of the unanswered questions surrounding the events of that day. For example, nobody asked Dr. Rice why she, along with President George W Bush and members of his cabinet, took anthrax vaccine just days before 9-11. Now, her response to that question would have been interesting.

Panelists Bob Kerrey (who replaced Max Cleland after Max started speaking his conscience and demanding more co-operation from the “Nixonian” Bush Administration, http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/21/cleland/index_np.html)
and Richard Benveniste led the Democrats in a partisan attack on the Bush Administration from the incompetence angle. That was the extent of their aggressive questioning surrounding the events of the attacks.

It was apparent that Rice managed to talk a lot without saying anything throughout the hearing, especially when panel members brought up the August 6th PDB. With a fixed smile, she deflected any pointed questions by dissembling them and constantly falling back on her position that nothing could have been done about preventing 9-11 without hindsight. Chillingly, she has taken the neo-conservative line that if only America had been on a “war footing” or had already had the Gestapo… err… Patriot Act in place, then things could have been different.

If nothing else, Rice showed that she could play the political shell game with the best of them. Her ability to prevaricate so skillfully will hold her in good stead with Bush's political base.
Unlike the somewhat poised and polished Condi, Mr. Bush’s fumbling, bumbling performance in his nationally televised press conference on Tuesday April 13th revealed the Presidents fundamental inability to keep his story straight. He screwed up big time when at one point he mentioned the Genoa G-8 conference. Bush ordered the no fly zone around the Italian city and slept on an American naval boat in the harbor because of threats about planes being flown into buildings. It damages his contention that they were taken completely by surprise on 9-11. As the New York Times’ Nicholas Kristoff points out in his Saturday April 17th column “Why Didn't We Stop 9/11?” there were, in fact, numerous threat assessments and warnings about planes being used as weapons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/17/opinion/17KRIS.html?th

As usual, however, I remain amazed at Kristoff’s (and others on the gate keeping left like David Corn, Al Franken etc.) lack of curiosity about George W Bush’s actions on 9-11. From his “what a terrible pilot” comment after he was asked about the first collision into the WTC, to his very odd reactions after hearing of the second plane hitting (continuing to carry out a photo-op with leisurely ease) to his subsequent flight to an underground bunker in Air Force One.

Think about it, if Bush had just been briefed a month before about “hijackings” and “explosions”, there is no excuse for the lack of response in the defense of the nation. The Pentagon was hit almost an hour after the first planes went off their transponders! The only conclusion one can have is that someone or somebody, at the highest levels of the military and/or government, issued stand down orders to prevent standard operating procedure.
http://standdown.net/

The ghost of Payne Stewart still haunts the corridors of the nation's conscience. And there are still far too many unanswered questions. http://unansweredquestions.org/
Many of the family members of those who lost their lives on 9-11 will never give up demanding the complete truth, even if this modern day Warren Commission does the expected and whitewashes the involvement of those with blood on their hands.

Mark me well. If there is no resolution to these unanswered questions, if the truth behind 9-11 continues to be repressed, then there will be a reckoning.

It’s called Karma.



For more information on the truth and lies of 9-11, and on what you can do, please see the following web site:
9-11 Citizens Watch
http://911citizenswatch.org/

[senseandsensibility]

1. THANKS

for the great info. Everyone should go to your link. This is informaion we will never hear from the mainstream media, unless we start demanding to hear it.

[cosmicdot]

2. if the Commission isn't using such links for guidance ...

in seeking out diligently for the research done by dedicated citizens ... the 'unanswered questions' ... as far as I'm concerned, they are guilty of dereliction of duty to our country, its people, and our Constitution

http://911citizenswatch.org/

[Karenina]

3. Tell 'em about it Cosmicdot!

Thanks RB, you and your family are ALWAYS in my prayers. :loveya:

[RBHam]

4. Thanks, Karenina...

The family's well, everything is going better than expected...

As for the subject of this post, as Gore Vidal so eloquently put it:

"Apparently, 'conspiracy
stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth."

[Beam Me Up]

5. You are absolutely right.

There is something very wrong in this country when almost 3000 citizens can be murdered in broad daylight with full media coverage--without any SERIOUS questions being asked about the many many peculiar events which lead up to and pervade that day.

The simple fact of the matter is that the official story about what happened on 9/11 is NOT CREDIBLE.

This adminsitration claims that it could not have anticipated such an attack and yet, strangely enough, in October of 2000, MASCAL did a simulation in which a commercial jetliner was crashed into the pentagon.

http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Contingency_Planning.html


Oh so VERY VERY coincidentally, on the morning of 9/11 itself, "(John) Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day." (National Law Enforcement Security Institute, 8/02)
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/nlesi0802.html

And if those two incidences are not enough to stretch credulity beyond breaking, consider that on June 1, 2001, the official documents that outline the operational procedures for dealing with hijackings were changed, removing responsibilities from local commanders and rerouting it through the office of the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf

RUMSFELD:
When I arrived in the command center, one of the first things I heard, and I was with you, was that the order had been given and that the pilots -- correction, not the pilots necessarily, but the command had been given the instructions that their pilots could, in fact, use their weapons to shoot down a commercial airliners filled with our people in the event that the aircraft appeared to be behaving in a threatening way and an unresponsive way.

GORELICK:
Now, you make a distinction there between the command and the pilots. Was it your understanding that the pilots had received that order?

RUMSFELD:
I'm trying to get in time because...

MYERS:
Well, I think -- my understanding, I've talked to General Eberhart, commander now of NORAD, and I think he's briefed the staff. And I think what he told the staff, what he told me, as I recall, was that the pilots did -- at the appropriate point when the authority to engage civilian airliners was given, that the pilots knew that fairly quickly. I mean, it went down through the chain of command.

RUMSFELD:
It was on a threat conference call that it was given, and everybody heard it simultaneously. The question then would be -- the reason I am hesitant is because we went through two or three iterations of the rules of engagement. And in the end, we ended up delegating that authority to, at the lowest level, I believe, to two stars.

MYERS:
Right.

RUMSFELD:
And the pilot would then describe the situation to that level. To the extent that level had time, they would come up to General Eberhart. To the extent Eberhart had time, he would come up to me. And to the extent I had time, I might talk to the president, which in fact, I did do on several occasions during the remainder of the day with respect to international flights heading to this country that were squawking "hijack."

GORELICK:
I'm just trying to understand whether it is your understanding that the NORAD pilots themselves, who were circling over Washington, as you referred to in your statement, whether they knew that they had authority to shoot down a plane. And if you don't know, it's fine to say that. You mentioned them in your statement, and I would like to know if you know the answer.

RUMSFELD:
I do not know what they thought. In fact, I haven't talked to any of the pilots that were up there. I certainly was immediately concerned that we did know what they thought they could do.

What happened on 9/11 was not SIMPLY an "intelligence failure." Such a triangulation of "coincidences" has not been seen since the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. But this time, what was in the sights of a "for hire" network of covert operatives was not a President, but the American Republic itself.

The question is: Are we going to let them get away with it?

Edit: added link to 3610_01a.pdf

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. There was no stand down order

You will never find some memo or documented evidence that Rummie or Cheney or anyone actually issued an order to stand down.

However, what they did do was nothing. Not one single person at the top level of command reacted appropriately in the first 2 hours of the event. Not a single one of them. There is no way in the world that so many people could be so stupid. Especially considering the information that they were privy to that the rest of had no clue about.

Look at how each of the key people reacted when they were notified about multiple hijackings and then that one of the plane had flown into the WTC.

Bu$h continued his photo op and read a children's book.

Rummie continued his meeting and pretended he didn't have a clue until the Pentagon was hit.

Cheney didn't have a clue until the SS hustled him to the bunker and from there we have no idea what he did. We do know that Cheney's wife, Condi and Mary Matlin all went with him.

Tenet knew it was an al Qaeda attack as soon as the first plane hit. But continued to finish breakfast, made a few calls and then in the middle of a national emergency decides to drive to CIA headquarters in Langley, VA instead of going to the WH Situation Room which was 3 blocks away.

Gen Myers, was walking into a meeting with Max Cleland when he got the news about the first tower. He told the secretary not to interrupt them and didn't know anything else until he came out of the meeting after the Pentagon was hit. Then he decided he should go to his battle station at the Pentagon.

I could go on but I think we can see a pattern here. Every person in key leadership roles went into ignore mode that morning. What screwed them up and gave them away is that the events took over an hour more than they had expected. If the planes all left in time and if everything had happened within the first hour of the event like it was supposed to, no one would have ever suspected that this was exactly what they wanted to happen.

[Beam Me Up]

7. "There is no way in the world that so many people could be so stupid."

They want us to believe they were stupid. With the exception of the pResident himself, who is, indeed, a very STUPD STUPID man, there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that such is the case.

These people are ruthless vipers utterly opposed to the rule of law and Democratic process.

Ladies and gentleman of DU, I submit:

WE HAVE NO GOVERNMENT.

[Beam Me Up]

8. shameless kick

[opihimoimoi]

10. there is no shame in keeping this one alive and well

:kick:

Come, time to think

[MoonRiver]

9. It's a whitewash. But maybe enough people caught a whif of the neglect,

AT BEST, which lead to 9/11, to make them question this vicious regime, and vote to get rid of it.

[Octafish]

11. Excellent post. Professional grade.

Well said, top-to-bottom and in your conclusions. Five Poppys.

I also appreciate you noticing this:

... Unlike the somewhat poised and polished Condi, Mr. Bush’s fumbling, bumbling performance in his nationally televised press conference on Tuesday April 13th revealed the Presidents fundamental inability to keep his story straight. He screwed up big time when at one point he mentioned the Genoa G-8 conference. Bush ordered the no fly zone around the Italian city and slept on an American naval boat in the harbor because of threats about planes being flown into buildings. It damages his contention that they were taken completely by surprise on 9-11. As the New York Times’ Nicholas Kristoff points out in his Saturday April 17th column “Why Didn't We Stop 9/11?” there were, in fact, numerous threat assessments and warnings about planes being used as weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/17/opinion/17KRIS.html?th

[Karenina]

12. The press conference also

...revealed the Presidents fundamental inability to keep his story straight.

[sce56]

13. Look at the best evidence that it did not happen as they said it did

Look at the video of the second plane hitting the building in slo-motion and ask why did we not see that before! The truth is right on tape from all the cameras that caught it that day just slow down the action and it will be self evident!


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[RBHam]

14. Monday kick

:kick: