Just had a little talk with my Republican neighbor while cooking out

[NNN0LHI]

He was just going nuts about Iraq. Said Bush has got to go ASAP. I tried my best to play devils advocate with him to no avail. He wouldn't bite. I said I just hope we don't end up with all these casualties and tax dollars spent and end up with an ayatollah running Iraq. He said he don't care who we give the place to. Give it back to Saddam for all he cares were his words. He asked me if I would send my son over there. I about fell off my deck. I didn't know what to say. Then he said what I thought I would never hear a Republican say. He said 9/11 would have never happened if the rightful winner of the election Gore was president. I swear he said that. I still can barely believe what I heard him say today.

Don

[molly]

1. Whoa!!!

I think the intelligent portion of GOPers are realizing what they got for their vote. The others are hopeless.

[Prodemsouth]

2. Today I agree with something a Republican said, if what you are saying

is true.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

3. slowly

the castle crumbles.

[strategery blunder]

4. Will this show up in the polls?

Freepers so underwhelmed by * that even they condemn him?

Or will the mediawhores rig the polls?

[glarius]

5. They are finally waking up perhaps

Maybe they are worried there might be a draft....This means their children are at risk too..????

[rdfi-defi]

6. yeah but he will probably toe the party line and vote bush in nov.

[TrueAmerican]

7. Does he have XM radio?

Maybe his XM got stuck on AAR?

[yardwork]

8. I've heard the same thing from many Republicans.

These are not lunatic freepers (nothing gets through to those maniacs). We're talking about old-fashioned fiscal-conservative, tough on crime, strong on defense and personal responsibility Republicans.

They voted for Chimpy for a couple of reasons: (1) They were mad at Clinton for having sex with Monica and lying about it, (2) They didn't like Gore, (3) They forgot how bad things could be, since they had it pretty good under Clinton, and (4) They didn't know much about Chimpy except that he seemed to be a popular Texas governor.

They are mad, mad, mad now! Chimpy has betrayed every plank of the old-fashioned Republican platform. He's raised spending, started two wars, trashed the economy, and is now being revealed as a lying incompetent nincompoop.

If the polling places are run fairly and the votes are tallied accurately, Kerry will win this election. I wish he would take the opportunity to show some spirit in the meantime!

[Ilsa]

16. I tried to warn people about Shrub four years ago.

I told them he gave away our rainy day fund so he could claim he lowered our taxes. I told them that we have a CHIPs program now, but only over his damn veto of it! I reminded them that he couldn't name any heads of state besides Blair and one or two others, that he was inept in foreign policy.

[AlinPA]

20. I believe you are right. The big thing was the Monica/

Gore is connected with Clinton thing.

[Trajan]

37. This post ...

Is one of the most cogent, concise, revealing posts I have seen here at DU ...

RIGHT ON target: ... so absolutely true ...

Unfortunately: it is ALL of us who now bear the cross ....

What a pity ....

[eleny]

9. Hope you didn't char your meal!

I would have been in a daze. Thanks for telling us what happened. Made my day!

[dae]

10. That is unbelievable, you don't think he was just trying to give you a

heart attack or stroke?}( These rascals are crafty and we have to stay on our toes.
Seriously, if the few are coming around now can the floodgates being opened be far off?

[Cleita]

11. Chickens coming home to roost are they?

So I take it he's voting for Kerry in November.

[NNN0LHI]

13. Said he would vote for anyone over Bush. He said that 3 times n/t

[Nightjock]

12. It is happening all over

People are waking up.
I have personally witnessed it with 4 die hard, life long repugs!


Even Bush's "Flip flop" attack is not working.

I just saw a poll that said 38% think Kerry flip flops
36% say Bush does.

America will belong to the people again after next election.

Karl (Joseph Goebbels) Rove and his facist gang are going down!

[TruthIsAll]

14. Repuke Nascar dads and soccer moms will move to the Dems....

for fear of their sons being drafted into the quagmire..

And that is what will clinch it for Kerry.

[reprehensor]

15. Meanwhile in the Heartland...

Just outside of the DFW metroplex...

My wife was helping out with a display for our local Democrat club, and some LIFELONG Rebublicans walked up and said they are seriously considering making the move away from the party.

So my wife gave them a copy of 'Uncovered: the Whole Truth About the Iraq War'.

Heh. :)

Hopefully that will be the clincher.

[Ilsa]

17. Thanks for sharing this excellent news.

I know a few moderate Repubs who feel the same way. Where I live, though, it's mostly hard-core freeper-types. Really disgusting. My county will still go for Bush in Nov.

[BrotherBuzz]

18. Wow!

I know the fence sitters have had both eyes and ears open for some time, but now they are starting to open their mouths, too!

[billybob537]

19. Yes its happening all over

even my in laws hate Bush*. There is hope!:bounce:

[bobthedrummer]

21. LIHOP.

LIHOP, LIHOP, LIHOP, LIHOP, LIHOP, it's in the air, everywhere!

[9215]

44. Yep, Maybe the 9/11 hearings are getting something done.

[Shopaholic]

22. My Repug Aunt hates Bushie boy too. . .

She was here for a visit about a month back. It seems that she thinks that he stole the election, that the war in Iraq was about oil, and that's he's going to dismantle Social Security. She's pissed. She doesn't like Kerry but she's voting for him anyway. See, not all Repugs are stupid!

[pa28]

23. Similar Story

My neo-con dad was stunned at *'s awful performance at last week's press conference. He went on to say that he wished * would announce the return of Iraq to anybody willing to take it with our compliments. There are intelligent Conservatives out there who realize no amount of twisting, spinning or bullying can hide the failure of *'s fictional war.

[Selwynn]

24. That's because not all republicans are evil.

[CalebHayes]

25. What a guy! admits he was wrong.

[lostnfound]

26. I know a Pub at work (had picture of * at his desk) who wants * out too

Maybe the tide is turning...it had better turn, or we will all drown.

[bobbieinok]

27. REMEMBER: BBV - RNC control of media - 7 months to go

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. WoW! Lucky you didn't fall down and get hurt! *l*

[Lindsey]

30. I think it's happening all over...yesterday, my boss who's a

very cool guy but a "very moderate republican" told me yesterday that he's NOT a republican. He said he doesn't know what he's going to do about the election and that he'll probably just not vote. He said that he went to a function at his daughters high school and (this is ORANGE COUNTY TOO!!!!)the parents (who's kids are seniors)were all talkin' that if things continue the way they are the draft will probably be reinstated and they were saying that it's "our kids" who'll go to the warr and....on and on... they were saying this is another Vietnam or even worse....! I LOVE IT...

[Ladyhawk]

48. It's not here yet, at least not with the Republicans I know.

[Kahuna]

29. Gore would not have been on a month long vacation during ...

the summer of threat. Gore would have been on it like white on rice.

[wildwww2]

31. Some people just had to know that President Gore=9-11 never happens!

I have always believed that. And know of several GOPers who agree with that thought.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[zbdent]

32. Call me a tinfoil hatter, but I get nervous when all these "repukes"

"convert" over to our side.

They seem to be pushing the right buttons. They may be trying to lull us into a sense of security that the black boxes actually give them.

[grannyfran]

33. Yeah, some folks are waking up.

I had an elderly farmer (this is a guy with a "Impeach Clinton - And her husband, too!" bumper sticker on his old pick up) who had never voted Democrat ask me who was the best Dem to vote for. He's 73 and has always voted Republican. He hates the war, scared of the economy and says * is "a spoiled brat who lies to get things his way." This was in December and I just happened to have a Wes Clark petition on me. He signed it.

[Beam Me Up]

58. U-go grannyfran! and welcome to DU n/t

[9215]

34. Was this a sudden shift on his part?

Or was he a pro-Bush guy who slowly changed?

[NNN0LHI]

36. I have not discussed this with him since before Bush invaded Iraq

He was all for it then. Flag waving every day and everything. I noticed the flag came down about a month or two ago. Hope that helps.

Don

[9215]

43. Thanks, it is good to see that through all the

mis-disinfo that something is getting through to the public.

PS. I've been responding to people alot lately like you did to your neighbor. Just listen and ask questions.

[NNN0LHI]

46. I was shocked too. This guy is a Vietnam vet and everything

He mentioned his union several times being against Bush too so I suspect his and other unions must be busting their ass this year to get rid of Bush.

Don

[powergirl]

35. What is the term "tin foil hat all about"

Can someone tell me. I guess living in Texas all of my life keeps me out of the loop. A lot of my Republican friends (and there are lots north of the d/fw area where I live) are really embarassed by Bush. I think they won't vote at all instead of voting for Kerry. But if they don't vote, it really helps us.

Anyway, what's up with tin foil hats?

[alcuno]

38. I think you "put on your tin foil hat" when you are about to hear

something that would be considered a conspiracy theory.

[powergirl]

39. AHHH, NOW I UNDERSTAND

Does it have anything to do with getting messages from aliens? :)

[9215]

45. Oh, fer sure, havent' you heard of Roswell......

((just kidding)).

I think of tin-foil hat as also catching stuff that others miss.

Welcome to DU.

:toast:

[cally]

53. Yes, it refers back to putting on

the tin foil hat to protect yourself from mind altering alien thoughts. The crazies. Sadly, with this maladministration the crazies are often correct.

[ldf]

41. unfortunately a lot of those "tin foil hat" theories

have turned out to be right on the money.

wearing tin foil is no longer as "fringe" as it used to be.

most fashionable du'ers have a tin foil accessory or two in their wardrobe.

:-)

[Viking12]

50. The tin-foil hat is used to block mind-controlling radio waves

Just one of many insidious ways that the "conspirators" are said to be preparing for world domination. Water flouridcation, sex education, the UN, and many other elements are linked together.

[0rganism]

52. Check out this handy website

http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html

It will tell you what you need to know about aluminum foil headgear.

[Viking12]

54. Thanks, I'll sleep better tonight...

"An Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie (AFDB, aka a "tinfoil hat") is a type of headwear that can shield your brain from most electromagnetic psychotronic mind control carriers. AFDBs are inexpensive (even free if you don't mind scrounging for thrown-out aluminium foil) and can be constructed by anyone with at least the dexterity of a chimp (maybe bonobo). This cheap and unobtrusive form of mind control protection offers real security to the masses. Not only do they protect against incoming signals, but they also block most forms of brain scanning and mind reading, keeping the secrets in your head truly secret. AFDBs are safe and operate automatically. All you do is make it and wear it and you're good to go! Plus, AFDBs are stylish and comfortable."

"BEWARE OF COMMERCIAL AFDBS: Since you should trust no one, always construct your AFDB yourself to avoid the risk of subversion and mental enslavement. Sometimes, AFDBs will be sold on places like eBay. Do not purchase these pre-made AFDBs, even if the seller seems trustworthy. They may contain backdoors, pinholes, integrated psychotronic circuitry or other methods that actually promote mind control.

"It can't be stressed enough how important it is to have the shiny side pointing out. This is needed because the shiny side is most reflective to psychotronic radiation, while the dull side can actually, in certain environmental conditions, absorb it. However, as is illustrated in the instructions above, it is also wise to complement this with a layer of foil pointing shiny side in. This will keep your brain waves, which are also reflected by the shiny side, from being picked up by mind-reading equipment. There is a small number of aluminum foil researchers who believe that this may cause an alpha-wave harmonic to build up in the skull resulting in memory loss or pseudo-religious visions, but their findings have never been replicated by the aluminum foil research community at large. Even if their findings are validated, the risk involved is small compared to the potential of mind-intrusion."

[qanda]

40. Man! What kind of barbecue sauce were you guys using?

Sounds like something that should be widely distributed.

[Lorien]

42. A friends repub father just passed away

three days ago at the age of 93. The last convesation he had with his son included a discussion about Shrub. He said that he was a lifelong republican and loved the party, but asked his son for his honest opinion of Chimpy. His son usually avoided such conversations, but this was the time for honesty if ever there was one, so he said "I think he's a horrible president, one of the worst." "Good" his father said "because I do, too".

[Gloria]

47. After we get rid of Bush, the next job is to purge the Democratic

party of the DLC...this is not the DLC that Clinton was associated wtih. My contacts in Washington said point blank, that it's been "infiltrated by the GOP."
Will Marshall, Evan Bayh, Carper, Mann....these people have GOT TO GO.

[Cleita]

49. Yes, we do. Why do we need a DLC anyway?

The DNC is starting to realize they have a iron in this fire.

[thethinker]

51. How do we do this?

What would the process be to clean this organization out? Does anyone vote for them? Are they appointed? By whom?

Thanks for answering these questions for me because I have been thinking the same thing. I also think they are influencing some of the things Kerry is saying lately.

[GoldenOldie]

56. Some Repub's are Finally Waking Up

Received many e-mail's from my spouse's cousin who is a rabid Republican because her ancestors had a hand in starting the Party. She is a lovely senior lady who acts like a Democrat but votes Republican only because she has been bred to do so. I casually warned her that although I have voted Independently in the past, the Reagan nor the Bush's have garnered this household's vote and the reason why I held this beliefs. She stopped sending me e-mails regarding the wonders of the Republican Party and her idol Georgie after my initial response....until Easter Sunday when she sent me an e-mail containing 52 comments made by comedians about John Kerry and Bill Clinton and how funny it all was. For some reason and perhaps because I was a little depressed for missing those that have gone on, and thinking of those families that have lost loved ones in Iraq, it became very personal to me and I shot back my reply to her and to the 30 some address's that she had sent to that I was amazed that those claiming to be Christians could find many of these jokes to be humorous when we have an idiot boy President sitting in the White House due to his rich father and friends patronage while all the while loved ones are dying in Iraq. It is Easter Sunday and again we should remember "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."
As I spend all Easter day worrying about the reaction of this cousin and other who I had responded, I finally told my spouse what I had done and said I was sick of being quiet in order to keep peace within the family...he agreed and gave me full support. The following Monday I received 13-responses giving me a high-five with the original cousin apologizing and she, herself having misgivings of George W. Bush. It made my day.

[proud patriot]

55. great to hear Don

:hi:

[NNN0LHI]

57. Now I have got to start working on the neighbor on the other side of me

He may be a tough nut to crack though. Another pro-war Rethug. I will give it a whirl though. Got nothing to lose.

Don

[Beam Me Up]

59. kicking this thread for its Optimistic Good News

Lord knows we need some!