Just how big of a cover-up do we have with 9/11 information ?

[kentuck]

Reading excerpts from Woodward's book, we see some information coming out that suggests that Condi Rice, Rumsfeld, and others did not tell the "whole truth" when they raised their hands before the 9/11 Committee. Now we find out that Bush was asking Condi Rice about whether he should invade Iraq and she had answered in the affirmative. She did not volunteer this information before the Committee. The same for Rumsfeld. He was one of the few that Bush had entrusted with the information that he wanted a "plan" to invade Iraq, along with Dick Cheney, whom Woodward characterized as obsessed with Iraq. Colin Powell said he had a "fever" for going after Iraq.

Much of this information should have come out in the questioning of these officials before the Committee. Now we find out that much more was going on than we found out from the testimonies before the Committee. There is a cover-up in progress of a cover-up that happened before the invasion of Iraq. And many of these subjects are guilty of being co-conspirators or accessories to a constitutional crime, since it is now being reported that $700 million dollars targeted for Afghanistan were diverted to the secret operation thy had planned for Iraq, which they never told the truth about before the Committee, and which they had a duty to tell the "whole truth" about Iraq, since they say it is part of the war on terror brought about by the attack of 9/11. It is a cover-up folks.

[harrison]

1. Nothing but a gang of criminals running our government. And

the lead criminal says he is doing this in the name of the Almighty. Makes me want to vomit.

[slor]

5. It is "The Rise of the Vermin"

[Cleita]

9. Yes, criminals but now also guilty of war crimes.

Why aren't they being indicted?

[KissMyAsscroft]

2. Hmm...now why would Cheney be the one obsessed with Iraq..

I mean, it's not like Halliburton is making billions off of the invasion or anything...oh wait..

[9215]

3. Beyond the Halliburton profits its, IMO,

about keeping oil flowing on their terms and keeping alternatives to oil from "taking over" their industry.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. Woodward is doing his share of lying, too.

[Beam Me Up]

6. "A Riddle Inside a Mystery Wrapped in an Enigma?"

Don't you believe it.

The truth is right in front of our eyes and becoming clearer every day. It is beyond LIHOP--beyond even "MIHOP", if you begin to perceive the powers that lie BEHIND the smoke screen of our Republic.

This is far more than just a cover-up of criminal negligence and maleficence. What we are dealing with here is a very high crime of State in which elements within the Executive, Congress, the Judiciary, the Department of Justice, Intelligence, the Military and Corporate Media are implicated.

I believe we will not have real answers to real questions until we demand them. Who will be our voice? Where shall be our court? Who will cry for truth, yet though the heavens fall?

[kentuck]

8. Hmm-mm-mmm.... Our entire government is covering up....

That's really a comforting thought...

[Beam Me Up]

11. "entire government" is a big thing--think differently.

What makes a government work? Is it not THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED? Noam Chomsky has spent a lot of time researching and writing about "the manufacture of consent." He's written about NECESSARY ILLUSIONS.

The MYTH of 9/11 is precisely such an "illusion." It was a murderous spectacle for all to see: a psychic driver DESIGNED to drive the governed to consent to both domestic and foreign policies it would, in its absence, be unlikely to do. I'm beginning to think of it as the PUBLIC EXECUTION of our Republic.

Still, there is yet another phase to come. 9/11 did not lead to marshal law; the next, much larger event, undoubtedly will.

But is the whole "government" behind this? I don't think so. There are many people within every branch of our government who, like everyone else, BELIEVES that what they've been told about 9/11 is true: America was attacked by Fundamentalist Muslims who hate our freedom. They, therefore, BELIEVE that "Homeland Security" and the endless "War on Terrorism" are, however misguided, necessary policies. Since NO OTHER EXPLANATION has been forthcoming from "reputable" information sources, what else can they think?

Indeed, as you suggest, as terrifying as terrorists hijacking planes and flying them into buildings IS, how MUCH MORE terrifying it would be to think that this whole spectacle was A COVERT OPERATION planed and executed by a small but very sophisticated network of extra-governmental quasi-military forces, aided and abetted by a few persons within our government and military.

If that were the case it would go a long way to explaining what looks like "cover-up." I believe that there are many people in various branches of government who SUSPECT something along the lines I am describing. There is certainly sufficient circumstantial evidence to warrant such suspicions. Real "smoking gun" PROOF, however, is going to be VERY DIFFICULT to come by short of an investigation WITH TEETH. Even then we're probably going to have to offer a lot of PROTECTION and plea bargans to get anyone who truly knows of malfeasance to come forward.

[Leilani]

7. But 9/11 & Iraq have been separated as issues.

Whenever 9/11 commission veers towards Iraq, they pull back, & say that is not part of their investigation.

There is another panel just beginning its work on Iraq. And if Bush is reselected, we wont get the truth from that panel either. It will be another cover up.

[9215]

10. Some of the questions I would have asked

Ashcroft: Have you ever personally met Moussaoui? Binalshibh, etc.

Same question for Bush and OBL and some other Saudi's connected to terrorism.

But that is to direct for some reason.

[OneBlueSky]

12. huge . . . absolutely huge . . .

virtually nothing in the "official" version of what happened that day makes sense in light of objective information available and minor inconveniences like the laws of physics . . . at this point we know next to nothing about what really happened on 9/11, and we may indeed never know . . . much like the truth about the JFK assassination, the truth about 9/11 will be buried in a mish-mash of ass-covering fiction . . .