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ringmastery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:16 PM Original message |
Should parents have a right to know if their minor is having an abortion? |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. No |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Quite agree...If your daughter does not trust you enough |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. That's silly |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. So, she has to go to court now? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. So, If She's Been Sexually Abused An Abortion Will Fix Everything? |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Of course she needs protection |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. By ignoring the problem |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. In an ideal situation, yes SIR. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. And that is a time when parents NEED to be involved |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Parents need to be involved when she needs protection from them? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Your post wasn't clear |
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cclark401 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #81 |
249. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #249 |
255. If you are that good parent a parent, she'll tell you. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #255 |
256. Perhaps the daddy is the bad influence |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #256 |
343. I'm not assuming the parents are a bad influence - |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #343 |
344. It certainly shouldn't be Jeb Bush's |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #344 |
352. You're neglecting important points, I think. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #352 |
353. Many believe that |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #353 |
354. It's not nuts... teaching the doctrine of Hell to young children is nuts. |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #60 |
187. Sounds just PEACHY KEEN...but guess what...... |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
241. The state fails far more often than it succeeds... |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
188. Mature adults can handle court cases |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #53 |
189. he does this ALL the time |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
185. Didn't know my pre-BBQ post would be of such interest |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
296. What about the boys' parents? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
143. They presumably didn't know she was having intercourse. |
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DANDI (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Absolutely. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Maybe you work that out with your daughter |
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DANDI (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Right, the keyword here is ALL. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Your responsibility |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Until she is emancipated |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. What about abusive parents, and other senarios? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Judicial oversight |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. First off driving is a privilege, many adults can't get them either. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. However, there are lower limits for ALL drivers |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
120. An Abortion does not eliminate statutory rape |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Do you deny the fetus is evidence? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:41 PM Original message |
Yes it can be evidence |
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Samurai_Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
261. incorrect... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #261 |
347. Well, that decided it for me. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
110. My question is: |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. She can place it up for adoption |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:46 PM Response to Reply #125 |
157. Big Fat FUCKING whoop---put your life on hold for nine months to |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #157 |
162. So are you deliberately trying to be offensive? |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #125 |
245. Legal age??? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #245 |
259. No you don't see |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #259 |
264. Still... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #264 |
266. Actually, while you try to put words in my mouth |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #110 |
235. Where does it say that the parents would be able to force a decision? |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. As I say below |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I agree with you DANDI and Welcome to DU. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. So say your're an underage teenage pregnant girl... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Parental views |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. That's not true Muddle |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. There are medical complications on both sides of this issue |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Depends, if a 13 year old gets pregnant from an 18+ year old, |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Most states use 16 as age of consent |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. We agree there, though in my state it is NOW 17 but back in my... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. All medical procedures carry risk, but think about this. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Of course not |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
127. So you are saying on one hand that parents have certain responsibilities |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Again, parenting isn't an exact science |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. That's not parenting its abuse. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #133 |
254. a real nightmare possibility: pregnancy as a result of incest |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #254 |
258. That's why you have judicial oversight |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #258 |
265. what if it's a judge? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #265 |
270. So does the current situation |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #270 |
293. that makes no sense |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #293 |
298. Doctors |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #298 |
306. ahh....i see, greedy doctors bilking insurance companies |
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Deb-Ter (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
285. Solon, |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
364. Exactly. Children aren't chattel. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
76. Not entirely true.... |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
204. interesting the definition of "emancipated minor" is "parenthood" |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Parents are absolutely in a position to dictate their will to a minor. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
165. Well, that sure works. She had intercourse. She became pregnant. |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #165 |
218. I was responding to the post that said parents had no right to |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. As a mother of 2 teenaged girls . . . |
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schultzee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I would want a daughter to tell her parents, but she should not be |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Not at all |
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CalebHayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
146. as I minor, I agree. |
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Sunny_Sunshine (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
314. My daughter is 21 so no longer a concern |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. It is her sovereign right |
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ringmastery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. who says a minor is emotionally ready to make that choice? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Minor shminor |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. healthy relationship |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. How about an agent of the court |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Kicking them out of the home, |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Theres that interesting fine line |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
272. More than most imagine |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #272 |
273. The girls wouldn't be criminals |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. So a 13-year-old girl is ready for that? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
253. if she had sex, then she's ready to deal with the consequences |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #253 |
299. How do you know? |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. WAIT--you're saying |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. "Sovereign right?" |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Sovereign rights |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. No |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
83. It's not a parental consent law |
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southerngirlwriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
150. Here's why you're wrong. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #150 |
179. You would have been a candidate |
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southerngirlwriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. That's the point -- I wouldn't have. |
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Deb-Ter (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #182 |
288. southerngirlwriter, |
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southerngirlwriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #288 |
342. I know someone who alleges that it happened to her. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #179 |
183. If you only had two choices |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. NO! |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. NO... |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yes precisely |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Parents should be protected from doctors who think they are God |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. Individual choices |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Perhaps in your family |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. so say a kid of 14 is pregnant |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. There is much you leave out |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
145. Its a moot point Muddle |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. Medical pros who perform procedures without knowing |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. They could contact the family doctor, and may require it. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. The family doctor |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #164 |
178. Having an abortion is a major operation |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:37 AM Response to Reply #178 |
190. The next-day pill is a major operation? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:51 AM Response to Reply #190 |
194. Parents are responsible for the healthcare of their kids |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:35 AM Response to Reply #194 |
205. Let's be honest here, this law has little to nothing to do with |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:38 AM Response to Reply #205 |
206. "Damn parental rights" |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:43 AM Response to Reply #206 |
209. My question is, how many teenagers are going to be maimed |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #190 |
216. I agree with you, I was referring to the time in the 1st-2nd trimester |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #178 |
260. Hard for me to get a handle on the concept that |
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daveropeswing (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #151 |
229. The 'judicial' system? |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #103 |
290. Sadly, sometimes parents.... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
130. Children should be protected for parents who think they are God. n/t |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. More thoughts |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. This is from the same state |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
116. Excellent point, |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well, c'mon |
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Abe Linkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. What's the purpose of "notfiying" parents? |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It gives them a chance |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Maybe it gives them the chance to make decisions as a family. |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. In a healthy family, yes |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. In those cases, there should be a judicial review |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
366. If this has to be mandated by law... |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. you wacked out fire-brand liberals! |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Wow! I'm shocked. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. maybe |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. "You cannot base a law (or constitutional amemdment) |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. yes, it can be dangerous |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. 5 year olds can't get pregnent, neither can most 11 year olds. |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. I see a difference |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
89. "Overruling" an abortion? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
174. They may not be able to do it through legal means, however |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Consenting to sex is deeply personal and life-affecting |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. I've not faced such a choice |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. Only if the minor trusts them enough to tell them |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. Sorry, but minor indicates not the controlling authority |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
92. I'm of the opinion that most kids go to their parents |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Got any stats? |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #95 |
234. only my own experience |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
31. The decision is |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. when you consider things like Incest |
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neverborn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. NO. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
65. No. Case in Point: Becky Bell |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. This is not about women |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. So we're going to put chastity belts on them until they're 18? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. I bet with modern fabrics, chastity belts could come back.. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. So a 13-year-old can make that choice? |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
155. Obviously statutory rape is a no-no |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #155 |
169. A "no-no?" |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #169 |
177. So, you want to argue semantics with my linguistics? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:52 AM Response to Reply #177 |
195. Yep |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. sixteen year old girls are not children---they are sexually active |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. How about 12? 13? 14? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #90 |
111. I was sexually active at 13 |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. And... |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. no, but if I had been pregnant, I would have wanted to get an abortion |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. And at 13, that's just not your decision |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. I'm sorry, but if my father had raped me, and I couldn't tell my mother |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:31 PM Original message |
No, in that case there is judicial review |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
161. judicial review takes a long time and there's no guarantee |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #161 |
173. There's no guarantee the judge should side with you |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. that's precisely why pregnant girls end up having back alley |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #181 |
196. So you expect a system that automatically agrees with the girl? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #196 |
268. I want a court that gives precedence to a woman's reproductive |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #268 |
271. We aren't talking about a woman here |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #271 |
275. a girl that menstruates, fucks, and pushes a fetus out her twat IS |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #275 |
277. So, an 11-year-old girl that does those things |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. no....not if she's raped----there are different state limits that allows |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #278 |
279. And in most it's 16 |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #279 |
282. what about those states where age of consent is 14? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #282 |
301. If the state mandates the age of consent |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #126 |
144. Courts have let children of younger ages make decisions on their own |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Not chattel, responsibility |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. Right, as do I. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. States regulate doctors |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. Perhaps, perhaps not |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #126 |
362. So her parents should force her to have the baby? or force her to abort? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #111 |
212. This is not a judgment on you |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #212 |
269. ha, who the fuck cares? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
102. Said 16 Year Old Girls Are Sexually Active CHILDREN |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #102 |
113. If I had fundie parents, and my birth control didn't work, and I ended |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
99. Muddleoftheroad, I agree with you. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
107. Becky Bell was a minor and her parents |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
67. So very, very undecided |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Minors have the same rights? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
84. Um, yes, minors have the same rights. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Nope |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
105. Getting a little off topic... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Parents overrule those rights |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Because it has a lasting impact, past when they turn 18 |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. If they don't know |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #117 |
124. And those are all good reasons |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Then lacking any major reason to leave out parents |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. Right |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #137 |
163. besides, the problem of getting legal counsel and facing judicial |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. Yes |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Review would have to be speedy |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. I'm a stockbroker |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
97. This is a case for a compromise kiahzero |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
69. Yes, Unless There's Allegation Of Incest & State Must Intervene |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. I'm a woman and I guess I agree with the men who believe that it |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. Maybe they just understand |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
100. You don't like hearing from men? |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
142. I love men |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. People who aren't parents |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. yep----especially fundie parents |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. All parents are equal |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #121 |
138. Parents make bad choices too---parents are not infallible |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Yes, they do make mistakes |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #140 |
149. Assuming that, the following changes should be made: |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #112 |
148. I'm a parent |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 07:10 AM Response to Reply #106 |
199. Are we allowed to |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
131. Thank you...I am getting really |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. The only WOMEN in this scenario |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. girls can be mothers------after all, they can push out a baby out of |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Yes, but they aren't mothers yet |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #139 |
154. I've heard of sixteen year old girls and fifteen year old girls |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. and after all, we are the ones who have to carry the fetus |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. Adult women do, yes |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #141 |
156. A sixteen year old girl is different from a child in this instance |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. As I said elsewhere in the thread |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #159 |
168. what about 15? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Nope |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #171 |
180. Be consistant please. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:55 AM Response to Reply #180 |
197. I am using the general age |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #197 |
202. yes quite... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #202 |
223. I am not for coathanger abortionists |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #223 |
225. Excuse my sarcasm, but what are the chances |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #225 |
231. Kids don't trust courts |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #231 |
237. Of course they are distrustful. |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #231 |
295. The legal system |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #295 |
302. So doctors don't have agendas? |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #302 |
331. I didn't say the system is perfect as it is.... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #302 |
338. What is this with the distrust of doctors? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #338 |
346. I don't automatically trust anyone |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
101. I thought parental notification was decided by judges??? |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #101 |
176. Judges like Scalia? |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
104. Yes. It's a medical procedure and parents will be paying if there |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
108. No... |
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TrueD (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
119. Yes, any medical procedure or prescription drug. |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #119 |
170. Aye |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
172. if men could get pregnant |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Thanks for that bit of marketing |
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Van Helsing (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-04 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
184. Yes, the parents have a right to know. |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
186. Should parents know.. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
191. Does She Need Their Permission to Give Birth? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:02 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. You beat me to it, REP! |
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Samurai_Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
193. Funny how a teenager can't decide to have an abortion... |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
198. The bollocks should they |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
200. No. The girl should be counseled to tell her parents |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 07:56 AM Response to Reply #200 |
201. No... there are a fair number of dysfunctional families |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
203. It's a medical procedure |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #203 |
207. What's to prevent the parents from punishing the teenager |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #207 |
210. Um, teenagers are punished |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #210 |
213. Exactly, it would be the fear of punishment |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #213 |
215. No proof that would happen |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #215 |
219. It HAS happened, what is to stop it from happening again? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #219 |
222. A few bad examples should not set precedent |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #222 |
224. Can't make an omelete without breaking a few eggs, eh? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:03 AM Response to Reply #224 |
228. What are you talking about? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #228 |
232. My problem is this... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #232 |
236. That's not a good situation |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #236 |
240. All medical procedures carry risk |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #240 |
242. That's the point; there is a risk |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #242 |
243. I would agree, however the risk can be spelled out to them by a |
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put out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #236 |
358. Major surgery? It isn't, it isn't. Who has been telling you this? |
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Butterflies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
208. No. It's the pregnant minor's choice whether to tell |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
211. No. Government should stay out of this. (nt) |
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DemLikr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
214. Can't believe these fuckers think this is top priority... |
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joe_sixpack (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
217. Distrust of parents |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:02 AM Response to Reply #217 |
226. Not bad parents, that is an issue, however how many teenagers |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #226 |
246. Dude...... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #246 |
250. My parents have a liberal attitude about it. |
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joe_sixpack (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #226 |
332. It's natural for teens to have a little distrust of parents |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:03 AM Response to Reply #217 |
227. Yes. It is our responsibility to protect the minority from abuse. |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #217 |
252. Laws are there |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
220. Parents have the RESPONSIBILITY |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
221. Absolutely. |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
230. As a parent I would want to know if my daughter is having an abortion, |
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Daedalus (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #230 |
233. Wow... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #233 |
263. The end result is that Congress |
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Samurai_Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
238. Correction: Abortion is not 'major' surgery! |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
239. Once again... |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
244. Not necessarily......kids should tell them. |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #244 |
247. Thank you for a thoughtful and wise post. n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #244 |
248. You articulate it better than I. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
251. ridiculous |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
257. It depends on the circumstances. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
262. To know, yes. To stop her, no. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
267. It depends |
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Alpha Wolf (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
274. Yes. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #274 |
276. did you know that abortion is a lot safer than pregnancy? |
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Alpha Wolf (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #276 |
287. and taking an aspirin is a lot safer than that... |
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put out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #287 |
361. Off thread. No person under the age 18 should ever take aspirin. |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
280. YES! |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #280 |
283. what if the girl is 16, and the state allows her to have sex at that age? |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #283 |
291. Right to have an abortion vs Right to not tell her parents |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #291 |
294. abortion is hell a lot safer than pregancy---and pregnancy is a lot |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #294 |
357. and your point is...... |
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Deb-Ter (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
281. Absolutely, |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #281 |
284. abortion actually is a lot safer than pregnancy, and the entire procedure |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
286. no |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
289. IMO, yes. n/t |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
292. Duh.. Of course they should. |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #292 |
300. Do you think you should be consulted as to whether she has |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #300 |
304. Of course, what a silly question |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #292 |
303. do you think you need a constitutional right, only for abortion? |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #303 |
307. not different at all |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #307 |
311. why would you need the state to force communication with your child? |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #311 |
315. Because they are children |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #315 |
318. "forcing children to communicate to their parents" |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #318 |
322. No its about pro-choicers using kids |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #322 |
336. Its not Pro-Choicers that are bringing this issue up. |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
297. If your child is having sex and you don't know it |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #297 |
305. What bullcrap |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #305 |
309. exactly...which is why parents really need a constitutional |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #309 |
310. LOL |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #310 |
312. This is political exploitation |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #312 |
316. Wow, talk about going off the deep end. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #316 |
321. political exploitation...in an election year, no less |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #321 |
324. Oh I see exploitation |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #324 |
334. If you need government mandated communication to find out |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #334 |
345. Talk about gross exaggeration |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #324 |
363. all depends on if you think kids have rights |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #321 |
325. Indeed |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #325 |
365. "Allowing kids to escape proper parenting" |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #305 |
313. If they are not old enough to make this decision |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #313 |
328. Wow, that's silly |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #328 |
330. When they are in school you know where they are. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #330 |
335. Wanna bet? |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #335 |
340. Easy to do if you don't have a relationship with your child's school |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #340 |
348. Missing a day? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #348 |
355. It could be too late, she might be pregnant by the time you get the call |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #355 |
356. No their maturity level makes them incapable of dealing |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #348 |
360. but it takes a couple of weeks to notice you are pregnant |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #297 |
308. What a pantload |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #308 |
317. You can parent her |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #317 |
320. wrong. |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #320 |
323. A young woman should have the right to choose an abortion. |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #323 |
326. Yes, with her parents involvement she has the right. |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #326 |
327. no it doesn't |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #327 |
329. It is a medical procedure |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #329 |
333. So does having sex |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #333 |
337. After the fact? |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #337 |
341. You don't need to know of any potential complications |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:04 PM Response to Reply #341 |
349. How much informed consent can a 12-year-old really have? |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 11:54 PM Response to Reply #349 |
359. Then as her parent you should be watching her. |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #308 |
319. Its not about abandonment |
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Samurai_Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
339. Check out my other thread on this subject... |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
350. no |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
351. Boy, this is a long thread |
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