Read this! It may be a little early to celebrate Shrub's demise.

[napi21]

Here's the link to the first of a series of 5 excerpts from Woodward's book that are being run for the next 5 days in the Washington Post.

It's 4 pages long and I realize it takaes a little time to read, but at leasst this part looks to me like Bush is off the hook. Damning info involves mostly Tenet and to some degree Cheny.

See what you think.

This is from the Monday morning Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22552-2004Apr18.html

I SURE HOPE I'M WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!

[still_one]

1. That is essentially what the 60 minutes said

but the most important thing to remember is that HE IS THE PRESIDENT

What does it say about him?

Whether he likes it or not the BUCK DOES STOP WITH HIM!!!

In addition, what right had they to go over TOP SECRET WAR PLANS with Prince Banadar?

So what are they going to do, have Cheney step down, and put Rudy in his place, fire Tenet?

Either way his position, and most of all his judgment does not look good...

[napi21]

2. This excerpt indicates W kept asking for facts.

It even quites him as saying don't stretch it!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

5. Right...Junior is a real fact-seeker, isn't he?

[atre]

10. People, let's not forget that Bush was one of Woodward's sources

All of this crap pinning the blame on Tenet comes from Bush himself.

We know from Clarke that Tenet was not one of the hawks in the Administration. We know from our own eyes and ears that Tenet has publicly (but subtly) rebuked Cheney for propogating that nonsense about a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. "If he's been saying that, I'll have to talk with him. That is not true."

[Media_Lies_Daily]

3. The info on Tenet seems to fly in the face of testimony by Richard...

...Clarke and others in regards to Iraqi WMDs. Tenet also did everything he could to keep Junior and Powell from stating that Iraq had WMDs...to no avail.

Junior is VERY FAR from being "off the hook". There are two issues:

1) His shifting of $700 million earmarked for Afghanistan to Iraq without consulting Congress. That's a no-no...in fact, that's an impeachable no-no.

2) His sharing of "Top Secret-NOFORN" data with a Saudi Arabian official. To show classified data to an uncleared person is bad enough, but NOFORN means the data is not to be shared with anyone who is NOT a U. S. citizen. Bad no-no here...treason is a good word to use.

[jefff]

4. I agree, it's not *

It would be unwise to attribute any serious decision making to *. The man is simply not engaged in what's going on. If you read Susskind's book (The Price of Loyalty) it's clear that * is just a patsy being run by Cheney, Rove, et al. The real question has always been whose telling these guys what to do? They never struck me as the ultimate power. But then maybe that's the problem: no one is really at the controls!

[napi21]

6. I know, I did read Price of Loyalty, and Worse than Watergate,

You're right about the $700mm and sharing confidential info stuff, but that wasn't covered in the first excerpt of Woodward's book in the morning paper. I'm only talking about what is in that piece.

Since there is going to be another piece each day for the rest of the week, maybe things will get better. Just this first part doesn't make the Shrub look bad.

[countmyvote4real]

7. His stupid head should roll with the rest of them.

I will give him an out if he pleads that he was an impostor President. How likely is that? Off with all their heads. Oops. I'm against the death penalty. Okay, send them to GITMO. They created it. They deserve it.

[belle]

13. He took the credit, he gets the blame.

I never thought any of this was his idea. Still, the fact is that he was chosen precisely because he was stupid and mean enough to go along with anything they wanted, provided he got unlimited ego strokes in return.

[Tellurian]

8. So, who has the TAPES?

I'm sure someone has covered their rearends...

JUST LIKE NIXON!!!

[Kool Kitty]

9. I don't care if Cheney ran around the Oval office in

his underwear doing a "Let's go to war" cheer, Bush is supposed to be the one running this country-not taking orders from others or being a puppet. They all deserve to go, without question. But Bush, most of all. If he has no control over his staff, then he is an ineffective leader. And THEY ALL MUST GO!!!!

[legin]

11. Wasn't the greatest I didn't think either

My unease not helped by having to look at pictures of Blitzer and Judy Bumfluff.

[Selwynn]

12. EXACTLY - he said as much on 60 minutes....

...he placed blame SQUARELY on Tenet. I think he's working on behalf of Bush. I think the point is to blame Tenet (woodward: he (tenet) said it was a "slam dunk") and say that Bush acted because of tenets confidence and he is to blame...