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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:06 AM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1544&e=3&u=/afp/us_vote_saudi_bush

Saudi envoy promised Bush a drop in oil prices ahead of election

Mon Apr 19, 4:55 AM ET


WASHINGTON (AFP) - Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, promised George W. Bush that his country would lower oil prices before the November 2 presidential election...
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:19 AM
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1. done - keep this kicked
Lots of these stories trickling out from Woodward.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:29 AM
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2. done, and, yes, keep this kicked. thanks spin. n/t
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:35 AM
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3. Done!
And emailed to two people.:kick:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:44 AM
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4. kick
:kick:

rated it. :thumbsup:
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:02 AM
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5. Kick
:kick:

Let's get it onto yahoo's front page!
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:12 AM
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6. done, kicked!
*
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:47 AM
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7. Get that sucker moving!
The story of the Saudi price fix is being beaten by "UK and U.S. Submariners to Play North Pole Soccer ."
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:30 AM
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9. Done and kicked!
n/t
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:25 AM
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8. kick
:kick:
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:41 AM
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10. done! 4.20 with 309 votes
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 11:41 AM by gore-is-my-president
n/t
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:45 AM
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11. done
and emailed around.
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Daedalus Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:51 AM
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12. Is It Me Or Am I Missing The Point...
1. Because it is in a book, doesn't make it true, should I cite examples :).

2. Even if it was true, does a statement made by an Ambassador equal a hidden conspiracy?

3. Even if it was true, why is there a problem with the Saudi's attempting to get their oil prices to a certain point, and why is it a problem that the Saudi's support Bush? I would think this would be a positive in light of our current Middle East position?

Trust me, I am not Bush supporter, but I am just not getting this...
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:54 AM
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13. Both
LOL
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:40 PM
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15. point by point
1. It's an investigative journalism book with cited facts and recorded statements. The book is filled with facts that can be verified, and 60 minutes also verified Woodward's facts. So, unless you're prepared to challenge Woodward, Wallace and 60 Minutes' integrity and factual journalism on this issue, then I suggest you drop this now. Woodward and Wallace are way behind you Mr./Mrs. 7 posts. And for that matter they are way beyond me.

2. Of course, a foreign national saying that he'll give * the election shows election influence from a foreign country. Would you be a proud American if you knew the presidential election's outcome is swayed by a non-American source?

3. The Saudis have always held us by the neck with oil prices, they always will while we are dependent on redundant and harmful fossil fuels. As I said in #2, are you comfortable as an American that your leader is in the back pocket of a country with a long history of civil rights abuses, state sponsored murder, and a supporter of the very terrorists that struck on 9/11 and other dates?

I'm not tying to belittle you, just trying to give you a perspective that explains the outrage over this information.
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Daedalus Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:16 PM
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17. APNU
That is not logical argumentation nor critical reasoning whatsoever...being that I am new...I will give you the chance to respond again...

1. Your making reference to the authors of the book is irrelevent to the statements that I made...and no, they aren't beyond me, speak for yourself and don't presume to know me...

2. A statement made by a foreign power...does not indicate anything other than a statement was made by a foreign power...it does not indicate a subversive scheme by the Bush administration to garner votes, it does speak to back door deals by Bush with the Saudi's...now if you can prove that it has, then I will submit it will be relevant, but this article did not indicate that...

3. The Saudi's have the right to CONTROL THEIR OWN OIL PRICES...now if they do this to support the Bush administration what do you plan on doing, going to War so they can't...

So now you see why I think this thread is somewhat ridiculous...because it proves nothing on our end, and it points to a non-American controlled decision on the other end...
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:28 PM
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20. Maybe you should consider turning down the 'agression' knob until you
are a little less 'new'.
:eyes:
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Daedalus Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:09 AM
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21. NEW?
Since when does "NEW" have anything to do with logic or critical thinking? BUD...
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:56 AM
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27. I can think of one case where it does, hee.
;)
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:25 AM
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22. once again, you need some experience on these issues...
1. Why are you changing the subject?

2. What a crock! So, by your logic, its OK for a foreign power to help a president (and a corrupt one at that) stay in power? As for back door deals, yesterday on the major media outlets and AAR, they had audio of Powell refuting Woodwards book. In that same audio he admits the NOFOR document being shown to Bandar. That's a breech of the national trust, and our own laws. So you're point here is not only a lie, but it's illegal.

3. Why are you changing the subject (again!)? Re-read my post and try responding to it and take your red herring to the trash bin.

If you are going to hang around here, let me give you some advice -- grow a thicker skin. DU can be a rough place with all of us democrats and liberals hashing out the issues that are important to us. There will be posts that are guarenteed to offend you (and everybody else) here.

As for the importance of this thread, it was important to the original poster and other people who feel strongly on this. If you think it's useless, then don't bother responding.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:56 AM
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14. Funny...there's no place to post messages
I thought all the yahoo stories had a comments section
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:46 PM
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16. Done
Average rating 4.19
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:51 AM
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25. Maybe they've changed that feature
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 09:52 AM by 9215
lately..... :tinfoilhat:

I was wondering the same thing when I went to the story.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:25 PM
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18. Why won't Yahoo allow messages to be posted?
What a load of crap.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:26 PM
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19. you can give 'em feedback here
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amish_enforcer Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:28 AM
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23. DUN KIK n/t
:)
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cdeca Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:10 AM
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24. Done and a kick!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:54 AM
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26. Is this extortion? nt
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