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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:43 AM
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Matt Lauer SHOCKED that the administration misled us about the Iraq War!
He actually did a great interview with Bob Woodward a few minutes ago and was almost yelling about the things Woodward was revealing. I personally don't get how anyone with a brain couldn't have seen that Bush wasn't giong to be stopped, but I guess it's better late than never for the media to start waking up.

He asked if Powell's presentation to the UN before the invasion was just a "dog and pony show" since Bush had ALREADY made the decision to go to war.

Katie Couric's interview with a Justice Dept official about the Patriot Act was pretty hard-hitting, too. She wasn't smiling that cut little perky smile of hers at all. The official was spouting talking points and blaming THE WALL.

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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:46 AM
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1. Many people were in a coma
when Bush decided to go to war. Obviously, the majority of people thought this President could do no wrong and blindly backed him. Patriotism and all that stuff........wearing flag lapel pins on TV, etc.

Hopefully, those same people will now miraculously awaken from their comatose state and do something about it. Especially the media.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:46 AM
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2. Yeah, they're real patriots
After it's too late they'll jump on board like everyone else.

Pathetic.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:56 AM
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25. they have blood on their hands and they know it
they're doing it out of guilt
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:47 AM
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3. Makes you wonder if some members of the media
are too mixed up in the hoopla, being right in the middle of things. You know, can't see the forest for the trees.

Either that or they are just plain lazy, not really getting to the bottom of the story, just hitting the hi-lights, then going off on their merry way.

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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:01 AM
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9. More conclusions are available than those two.
why let them off so lightly?

Propaganda is a crime if they conspired with gov't officials to lie to the Citizens.

Many in the media are neither that lazy nor that blind.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:23 AM
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18. The Daily Howler has it about right
The media are governed by their own pack mentality. The neocons have been providing the alpha males, pissing on selected trees, and encouraging the frenzy for so long now, they have it down to a science.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:49 AM
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4. So, why don't all of those 'shocked' propagandists who started their...
professions as journalists tell us why they are just waking up? Part of it is that they are puppets of the corporate agenda of their paymasters and it's easy to. All this means is that the corporate heads who design the content, tone, context, selectability of the news are budging a little. Look beyond the front faces - look at what might be going on in the top meeting rooms.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:07 AM
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12. War is good for ratings.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 10:07 AM by gsh999
These bastards are just that evil. But more to the point, war is good for profits for GE and the rest of the military industries. These fkkking media whores incite the sheeple into flag-waving frenzies to support ANY war. Lauer and the rest of the whores aren't stupid. They are simply unethical, unprincipled, evil tools of the military industries and war profiteers.
The ones who suffer are the soldiers (who trust the civilian authority to go to war only with just cause and as a last resort) and the innocents killed and maimed in unjust wars.
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:51 AM
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5. Matt's in a bit of a fog most of the time
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:58 AM
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6. watch it here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032633/?ta=y Part 2 will be tommorrow and Woodward will be on King tonight...

I emailed my congresswoman this morning concerning impeachment...
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:02 AM
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10. Matt's just window dressing for stay-at-home stepford wives to fantisize
about.

He never was, is or will be, a journalist.

Just another pretty boy for "happy talk chatter" during the morning hour.

It would be silly to consider him anything else.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:59 AM
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7. They've successfully picked a conservative replacement. What's to worry?
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:00 AM
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8. So were Imus, Paula, and even Aaron. Fuck them. This was all out there.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:05 AM
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11. Keep in mind that these people do not..........
move in the same circles or live the lives you and I lead. I had a eye opener a number of years ago. Went to a local fair and lumberjack competition and Jeff Greenfield was there with a number of people (I assume they were family and friends). Everyone is sitting watching the competition when he breaks out a picnic complete with silver, crystal and all the trimmings. It really seemed out of place at this event and it struck me that the media types really are far away from how the rest of us pions live so how could they actaully know what life is like for the average person. There is a disconnect from the populace. They think they are average people but really don't have a clue.

Just a Rant.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:10 AM
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13. Good. That's the public's cue to get "outraged".
Matt Lauer outrage is not like Fox News outrage. It's much more powerful than that.
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:11 AM
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14. anybody that was listening knew before nov 2002.
i really thought that the midterm elections would go democratic, because * had started to make war noise about iraq before that. afghanistan was half done and * was beating his chest.
but instead of the voters sending a loud NO, they increased the republican majorities. isn't that right? even a president with the brains of half a cup of dirt could see that signal.

"if god did not want them to be sheared, he would not have made them sheep." Eli Wallach-- the magnificent seven
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:15 AM
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16. people were still hypnotized
and bushco had strangle hold on free speech. gave him the power. i let that election go to let them have it all. no republican can say any of this mess is democrat, because the republicans have all the power. this is a good revelation to people to see. two years of mess with it, but i am seeing may well be worth it,. a gift.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:36 AM
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20. They probably did get the vote but thanks to Diebold the
Votes were counted the way the Republicans controling the electronics software wanted
www.blackboxvoting.org
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:13 AM
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15. I think there's a denial factor with press, as well as public --
people want to assume that those in the WH are people of integrity, doing their best, with the interests of our country uppermost. It's scary not to think that, which is why we've all lived with pain and anguish for almost four years. This website started because some knew from November of 2000 that this cabal had no integrity, and looked out only for their own interests, and those of their political contributors and supporters; they sent a mob to interfere with vote counting, they used the ultimate power of the Supreme Court for political ends, they stole an American election. I just hope and pray that enough of both press and public wake up before Election 2004.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:16 AM
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17. Mr. and Mrs. Middle America will take notice.
He actually did a great interview with Bob Woodward a few minutes ago and was almost yelling about the things Woodward was revealing. I personally don't get how anyone with a brain couldn't have seen that Bush wasn't giong to be stopped, but I guess it's better late than never for the media to start waking up.

Matt Lauer has never impressed me as a person with an exceptional intellect. He seems like a nice enough fellow and a good worker, but no serious brain power... maybe the overachiever type or else just damn lucky!

Whether or not... just the fact that Matt Lauer is getting excited about what he's hearing, on morning TV even, is enough to start a lot of average people paying attention. This is good. Most people expect people like Al Franken to get up in arms over this administration and to make all sorts of claims about what's going on behind the scenes, but when "Mainstream Matt" takes notice, the claims seem more credible.

Of course the FReepers are convinced that Katie, Matt, Al and Ann are all wild-eyed liberals anyhow, so the above does not apply to FReeper perceptions. Not much sense in even wasting time on them!


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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:26 AM
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19. Shocked! He'd have to be. Hmm, NBC - owned by GE
(a defense contractor), run by a Bush relative, salivating to be on the forefront of "happy" war footage (in other words, kissing W's ass so that they are not "frozen out" of covering the Iraqi invasion, er, war on terrorism).

Shocked, I say!
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:39 AM
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21. I'm SHOCKED Matt Lauer could focus on something other than his hair
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 10:39 AM by mouse7
Needless to say, I don't have too high of an opinion of this particular news model.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:45 AM
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Yeah, but a lot of other "morans" do. The Today Show gets the kind
of numbers that Pox News, CNN, and MSNBC can only dream of. The Today Show is as mainstream as it gets. And if this is starting to raise a ruckus on the Today Show, we may be halfway home.

CALL YOUR REPS! TOLL FREE! NOTE MY SIG LINE!!! Ask 'em if we can impeach NOW, finally!
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:01 AM
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26. SHOUT it calimary! We must write, call, storm the barricades!
Congress is getting flooded with calls.. this is our opportunity to seize the time and TAKE ACTION! insted of griping.

Write those letters, flood all our Senators and Congresscritters with mail they can't ignore.

Write to everyone you know, and ask them to do the same. Most people feel hopeless, but if they know that many others are writing, then they will, also.

You can be sure that freepers are writing letters in support now, we must out-write them!

Then, call calimary's number, and keep their phones ringing!

Send letters to the editor, print up little cards with the charges and phone number, and leave them everywhere you go. Thi sis the time --it's been handed to us on a silver platter.

Thanks for all your effort!

Kanary
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:45 AM
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22. Woodward returns tomorrow for part 2
Woody (Boo$h's nickname for BW) deflected ML's questions by stating, "I'm just a journalist" but Matt kept pressing about Congress being kept in the dark and the money taken from the Afghan war chest.

Basically following Mike Wallace's interview since tomorrow we get more on the "rock stars" or is it "Raq stars".

Hopefully he'll get Woodward to repeat that Boo$h "history" quote/observation.

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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:53 AM
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23. yes, Matt, it ..was.. a .. dog.. and ...pony... show
LIKE WE CRITICS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR OVER A FUCKING YEAR! OH AND MAYBE YOU CAN WRITE A LITTLE I'M SORRY NOTE TO THE 700+ FAMILIES OF THE KIA NOT TO MENTION THE OTHER THOUSANDS WOUNDED AND HAVE DIED AFTER BEING WOUNDED!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:02 AM
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27. they are f***ing stupid, 'eh
gee, Matt - ya *THINK* ??????????????
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:56 AM
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24. Yeh. NPR said "The WALL" is a STRUCTURAL problem...
... inherited from the Clinton administration's own Assistant Attorney General Jamie Gorelick. And while NPR did mention that the Reagan-Bush badministrations actually created the wall to go after some crooks, NPR, of course, gave John Ashcan yet another benefit of the doubt.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:11 AM
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28. actually the wall initially created per republican
crooked one during the watergate. so really want to point fingers, because republican nixon was crooked they created this. but what the hell, what does history matter, .........we'll all be dead
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