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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:07 AM
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Lordy, check out what the Dallas Morning (Whoring) news has to say
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And fewer Americans rely on traditional news media for political news. Pew found that more of us, especially young adults, are turning to the Internet for political news and – heaven help us – to political comedy programs. Naturally, those who get campaign information from The Daily Show prove to be poorly informed. An increasing number of us seem interested in learning political news only from media that tell us what we want to hear.

That's dangerous for the press and the people. What should be done?

It's time that we in the Fourth Estate admit that liberal media bias isn't a figment of Rush Limbaugh's imagination. Studies by the American Society of Newspaper Editors, the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Knight Foundation have shown that, on average, journalists are much more politically and culturally liberal and secular than their readers.

www.dallasnews.com (requires registration)

un-freaking-believable
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:09 AM
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1. If there is a Liberal Media, why do we NEED to go to the Internet news
sources?????

Pretty much undercuts that idea.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:11 AM
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4. gawd
they trotted out that tired old "most reporters are liberals", as if reporters controlled the news. It's just mind-boggling.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:10 AM
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2. Remember that the DMN has a new-ish editor in chief...
...I think they're going to be whoring a bit less than we are used to.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:12 AM
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6. well
I certainly have seen no evidence of that yet. :o
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:27 PM
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24. who is it?
I looked at their website and couldn't find out.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:10 AM
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3. hmmmm or....it could be that people no longer have any faith
in the so-called 4th estate in the US due to shoddy reporting, the inability to ask tough questions, the rapid pace of media consolidation and of course the fact that the media simply laid down during the march to war and people are now starting to wonder why and if nearly 1000 American deaths coudl have been avoided if the friggin press had done their damned jobs.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:11 AM
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5. Nah, this is totally believable
This rag has always been only barely fit to line birdcages. The Fort Worth Star Telegram is MUCH better!

We used to have the Dallas Times Herald. I miss that paper. :(
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:40 AM
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19. Much better paper.They carried Molly .She said she wouldn't work for DMN.
xx
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:12 AM
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7. Well, I'd have to agree that more newspapers appear to have
a more liberal slant. The problem with that statement is that it does not consider where most Americans get their news, TV. TV has more of a conservative slant. And radio has a VERY conservative slant. So on the whole, I'd say the news industry leans a good bit to the right.

As for The Daily Show, sure it's funny, but once you discount the obvious joke stories, it is very accurate. We're not talking SNL here. They make it funny, but the news is not made up.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:13 AM
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9. UM
would this be the majority of newspapers who endorsed that piece of shit Bush for president in 2000 ???
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:14 PM
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29. The ones I read are neutral at best (worst?)
Those would include the Tennessean (Nashville), NY Times, LA Times, Mercury News (San Jose) and, occasionally, Washington Post. Every once in a while, I will also read some other small, local papers. I purposefully do not read the NY Post or Washington Times, and I try to stay away from anything else owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Perhaps I'm not reading enough of them, and perhaps my selection includes those few who are farthest to the left, but in my experience, newspapers are more inclined to lean to the left. But then, maybe my perception is off due to the extreme rightward slant of TV and radio.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:41 PM
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34. the majority of big papers endorsed Bush Inc
and the overwhelming majority of rural papers are RNC crap.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:22 AM
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13. Satire and the Daily Show

John Daily is Twain-esque, IMO.

He, I'm sure with the help of his entire production and writing staff, has renewed the tradition of biting political satire. Political satire helped bring down or at least force attention to be paid to some of the most corrupt organizations in this nation's history. Boss Tweed, if he were alive, could testify to this.

The sarcastic "heaven help us" comment about political comedy shows in this article merely shows an extreme ignorance of history. Political satire is not new and is not to be discounted. It is as a powerful and legitimate force in American politics.

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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:49 AM
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20. Newspapers have liberal slant???!!!
Are you friggin' kidding? How many newspapers do you read?

How many endorsed Shrub in 2000? That's liberal slant?

Newspapers do provide more factual information in their stories--hence the perceived liberalism. In reality the ownership and editorial staffs are predominantly conservative.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:13 AM
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8. I don't get it,
Rush Limbaugh, Tony Snow, Sean Hannity, Michael Medved, Laura Ingraham, Bill O’Reilly, Neal Boortz, et. al. are on the radio 24/7 complaining that the media is liberal! Unf...ing believable.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:15 AM
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10. ya well
imagine hearing that shit IN F***ING TEXAS. :o
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:19 PM
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32. Technically none of the above are in the media
When I think media, I think of people who are trained in the field and went to school for it. In your list, Medved, who is a scum bag no doubt, is the only one who probably went to college and studied journalism.

The rest are untrained former house painters and bug sprayers.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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11. "Naturally, those who get campaign information from The Daily Show..."
"...prove to be poorly informed."

Naturally.

:eyes:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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12. not like, say, FOX NEWS VIEWERS
:D
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:22 AM
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14. BUSH WOULD HAVE RESIGNED OR HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED
OR MANY MEMBERS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE IN PRISON IF THERE WAS SUCH A THING AS A LIBERAL MEDIA. CONSERVATIVES KNOW THE "LIBERAL" MEDIA TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR HEROES, ERGO IT NEEDS TO BE "DEFINED" AS SOMETHING EVIL AND UNAMERICAN.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:25 AM
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16. I have said it before
if a Democratic president had done all that Bush has done, his head would be on a stick by now.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:25 AM
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15. Yeah, so what jouralists are more liberal ....
Of course, journalists are more liberal because they've been in the field at one time or another have covered a situation that showed the success of liberalism, especially tolerance and understanding. But, why do these studies ignore owners? Don't they think owners of newspapers have a way of shaping things? I bet a study of media owners would show a decidedly conservative bias.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:26 AM
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17. why do they ignore media owners
because that's their job as media whores. Don't provide the whole truth, the REAL story.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:11 PM
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23. Same reason why, in 1994, the "liberal media" kept focusing on
the "union" baseball millionaire players leaving the ballpark in their high-price sports cars.

And ignored the ballteam owners leaving in their limousines with hired drivers.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:37 AM
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18. Funny DMN story....
I was in Lowe's several weeks ago, and they had a DMN stand up with a guy giving out free issues and trying to get people signed up for subscriptions.

I walked past him with my cart (and I was wearing my Smirking Chimp shirt that says "Proud member of the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy")

The guy stopped me and wanted to know if I wanted a paper. Every once in awhile I'll work the NY Times crossword. He wanted to know how often I read the DMN.

"Once a month or so if it's laying around somewhere," I replied. His eyes practically bulged, and he said, appalled, "You don't get the weekly paper? Can I sign you up for a subscription?"

"No," I replied.

"Why not?" he said, still shocked that I would dare to refuse 'the important daily happenings of the world.'

"Read my shirt, and then ask yourself why I would want to read the bullshit that BELO cranks out calling it news. I have unbiased sources on the Web that give me better information. I'm going to use this to line my catbox."

Then I walked off, leaving him slackjawed. He didn't even know that my cat died last year.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:49 AM
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21. "He didn't even know that my cat died last year. "
That sumbish!

:P

Man, it sure pays to read posts all the way through...you never know what you'll miss!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:58 AM
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22. Now that all the evidence against * is coming out, time to discredit the
messengers since they're finally showing some apples (my new word for 'bold informing.')
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:29 PM
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25. exactly
it's disgusting what they will stoop to.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:31 PM
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26. uh........
"Naturally, those who get campaign information from The Daily Show prove to be poorly informed"

What about that large study showing that those who get their news from FOX are the least informed?

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:31 PM
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27. and gee.....
...if the press is so liberal, why has the GOP stomped the Fairness Doctrine three consecutive times?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:39 PM
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28. Ah, the Dallas Morning Snooze
strikes again.

What a joke.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:39 PM
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33. it's mind-boggling
they must think - or know - their readers are a bunch of idiots.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:16 PM
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30. What?
There's no liberal bias in political reporting...who decides what gets on the air? The managers and executives who are well paid and want to keep the current system/media consolidation...so they have vested interests in seeing conservatives in power...

Doesn't matter who does the reporting, it's what gets reported
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:16 PM
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31. Well I live in the Dallas area
And stopped taking the Dallas Morning News because it is so right winged. Their editorial board is nothing more than a republican commercial. I used to be able to get editorials published there but not any more. I am considered too radical for them. And I far from radical. The Daily Show rocks by the way! Jon Stewart for president!
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