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pss Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:45 PM
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Looks like Bush is TRYING to lose the election...
... and who can blame the guy?

Think about it. His behavior has always been erratic, and for that he's been a fine useful idiot for those who wanted war. Woodward on 60 Minutes painted him as a shallow yet thoughful man who believed he was asking the right questions. Cheney was clearly painted as the Devil in all this. (along with Rumsfeld)

What sort of relationship does Woodward have with Papa George H.W. 41? I can imagine a deal between Woodward and the Bush family to portray W. as hapless, and the Tuesday before Woodward's book is released, they put him in front of the press to prove the point. It's like they're trying to prove a case of not guilty by reason of insanity, so that when the war crimes tribunals convene, we'll all go after Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rove, and leave poor George alone.

Think about it. Maybe George wants out. He can't do an LBJ and just say "I will not seek and shall not accept the nomination of my party..." there's too much money invested in him. If he's tried in the court of public opinion before the election, there's no way he's going to win, and he and his family know it. If he just goes through the motions while Kerry gets out there and acts like a president should, he'll be easy to beat.

A wounded animal is about the most dangerous thing you can come into contact with, and the wounded animal will be W's faithful, fundie base if things get too weird for them. They don't care about Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rove the way they care about George. If the family (and Baker is probably behind this... in my imagination...) can somehow get George off the hook without the fundies going nuts, we may get out of this yet. Cheney will die of a heart attack before he's tried, Rumsfeld and Rove, ah Fuck 'Em! Powell seems just as hapless as George, and he may get to keep his neck, if he cooperates.

Think about it. Maybe the father he's listening to really is the one who used to spank his sorry ass. And his Mom? I can't imagine that she enjoys seeing what her son has wrought. The wife and kids and Jeb must be squirming too. Find a willing court reporter to go out and say that George commited treason, and there's no way he'll get "re"-elected. I'd be willing to be with them on this one...
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judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:50 PM
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1. Or maybe, Oh I hate the thought!
Maybe "they" feel GW is a loser at this point, and "they" know he can't be re-elected, so a deal has been made whereas Kerry will continue PNAC policies as the next President. So who cares what he does and what he says? Rove has already moved on.

PLEASE everyone, PLEASE PLEASE prove to me that what I just wrote above is a totally paranoid, induced by too much work and too many reports on Kerry's comments on Hamas Leader assassination and Palestinian right of return.

PLEASE???
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:50 PM
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2. My take? Since God is directing his every move, NOTHING Bush does
can be considered wrong or a mistake. That is why he is so confident and unworried. God is taking care of him, so no matter how hot it gets in the kitchen, his boy Hay-soos is still cool as a cuke.

in my experience the only way "born agains" can keep this confidence going is by staying in a total delusional fantasy world 24/7. That's why all the whispering aof prayers and so on. When reality comes creeping in, the veil comes down.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 03:01 PM
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11. Exactly and I don't think anyone has wanted to win an election
MORE in the history of the world. Watch out, they show every day they are willing to do anything to promote their "vision" of the world.

He just didn't think a "negative" ie realistic potrayal was possible. I mean he's "doing the right" thing, don't you people get it????

Here's my buzzword with the Bushies, it's the election, stupid. They would sell out their grandmother to win.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:52 PM
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3. I noticed this at his press conference
It seemed to me he was already getting prepared to accept defeat, like he knew he is going to get beat. Bush kept talking about well, maybe the American people will vote for change and talked about future presidents and so on.

It seems to me Bush is a beaten man and he knows it.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:03 PM
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4. He is not thinking defeat that is for sure
We have not even seen his political big guns, or the October surprise. No I do not think it is going to be "Oil prices coming down"

Kerry and the Dems have a lot of ground to cover in a short amount of time. Getting the word out and not being too self ashured by meaningless qwerks in the Pres is the only way we have 1/2 a chance
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:07 PM
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5. His main goal is still Major League Baseball Comish....
This pResident crap is just a stepping stone to Chimps real calling.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:29 PM
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6. It makes sense
The Bush Family puts out the word that their talented son is the victim of these ruthless PNAC rat bastards who convinced him to follow their plan and left him holding the bag when things went wrong. Even that slime ball Colin Powell didn't help the poor boy. That bitch Condi who's supposed to be so smart, well, she's no help either.

OK, we made a few zillion on the war, but money isn't everything. Yes it is.

Loosing the election will save face. It won't bring back all the American soldiers that will have died, or all the Iraqis that were killed but who gives a fuck about them anyway, only those liberal whiners. The important thing is to maintain the facade of the Bush Family Honor.

Pat Robertson will cut and run if he gets another promising African Kleptocracy to invest in. Besides he can't take out much time from fleecing the faithful suckers to save George.

Just when you think the Repubs can't get any lower, one of them yells out: "DIVE, DIVE!"
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:16 AM
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7. I've been thinking this for awhile
that he is wanting out, but there's no real proof of that. I don't watch a whole lot of television these days, bcause it depresses and angers me. However, I did watch shrubbie's press conf, and was thinking that, he did his best. I mean, this is the best he can do, and he knows it's lousy. His father did a better job, his brother Jeb also would've done a better job. It just seems that shrub's talents do not reside in the presidential realm- and that he is especially bad with finances, and foreign policy. But, he does have a great deal of charisma, and is, as Chris Matthews says, physically attractive. (Even though Matthews might've said that after warnings from the network). It's a shame that our country, and vulnerable countries worldwide have had to endure the mistakes that he has made- he and his team.
It is a scarey thought that Kerry might've been chosen by pnac or the corporate elite as a more capable prez. I don't think that means Kerry will auto go along with these same policies, but it might mean that they will effectively tie his hands. In a way I've always thought that we focus way too much on who will win the presidency. In so doing, we are missing the bigger picture. It's kind of like the old saying of putting a bandaid on a wound. Obviously, there are behind the scenes people who really run Washington. But we're only getting glimpses of that, not enough to make a solid change. But I think we can all agree that if Kerry wins, and even if there is some wheeling and dealing to get him elected- that there will be change, and it will be big.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:22 AM
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8. W will never accept defeat - he didn't in 2000, won't this time
You have no idea about the hubris of dictators. For ceausescu, things turned during a public speech - the crowd started booing instead of applauding and he kept sreaming "shut up". His last words before being summarily executed: "You have no right"
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:01 AM
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9. not hardly
GWB is not a pawn. He's a player. A cagey, ruthless, manipulative player who has spent a lifetime winning by getting off the hook and going on to greater wins. In business and in politics, Bush's mistakes have always been blamed on someone else while he takes a pass.

Bush does not think, he believes. He believes he is right. There is nothing in the public face he shows, inarticulate speech and all, that should be misinterpreted as soft, self-pitying, self-doubting or wounded.

He loves a fight, and a fighter's repertoire includes making his opponent underestimate him.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:57 PM
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10. On second thought
you are right, he is cagey, and a player. He might just be using his misunderestimate me again ploy. I will add campaigning to his short list of talents/abilities.
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