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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:19 PM
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Where's the Outrage?!!!
I'm totally dumbfounded over the lack of any meaningful action against the Bush administration. What is it going to take to awaken the people in this country??? Any single scandal (they come almost every day now) would be enough to impeach this guy. So, what's the deal. Am I (we) that out of touch with the rest of the country???

This man and his friends are changing our country. It's looking less and less like the place I thought I grew up in. We attacked another country based on lies and unfounded evidence. We are holding people without any due course...no counsel. We've alienated the world community. We're diverting money from one war to the next without the nod from Congress. Our troops are being treated horribly by our government. Bush is unable to admit to any mistakes (what's that about?). Our environment is being raped daily. We have an "official" religion permeating our policies. A CIA agent was "outed" as political revenge. We are financially bankrupt...is there no end?

Sorry...I'm just so pissed off right now. I'm disappointed in the press and the millions of Americans that live in denial. If Bush gets another 4 years...I mean, I can't even fathom that right now.

Sorry...just venting.

-P
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:20 PM
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1. They control all three branches of government...


So there is no accountability.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:21 PM
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2. Plus the "fourth branch" (formerly the "fourth estate")
That is, the media.

Mostly, that is.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:22 PM
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3. Don't fathom that...
We won't let it happen. Everyone's time will come, and when it does it will be very sweet.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:24 PM
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4. It's just on simmer now
I think many people know there isn't that much that can be done now since the GOP basically has all 3 branches of government. Getting all worked up now and then losing steam before the election isn't a good strategy. I'm pretty certain the Kerry campaign is holding back on all kinds of attack strategies until late int he summer and fall.



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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:26 PM
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5. I hope to God You're Right
I hope to God you're right. I know that Kerry has to hold off a while...but I'm anxious for him to get started.

-P
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coltman Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:31 PM
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7. Boy everybody beat me on this one...
yard works done I'm drunk and I type slow
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:30 PM
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6. THE BIGGEST REASON IS THE MEDIA
Every single tv news outlet is guilty of letting Bush get away with EVERYTHING.

When I first discovered this website I thought to myself

"Wow, alot of my fellow dems are paranoid."

and than I noticed what many of them have been pointing out.

It is an absolute outrage.

One of my favorite shows USED to be Inside Politics on CNN.
Now I can barely watch it.
But like a previous poster just said, it will all catch up to Bush.

Or as another person wrote here, "Bush is on his 'White bronco chase'"
His day is coming. The lies are catching up with him.

He will not get another 4 years, but I share your frustration and outrage.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:58 PM
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29. Inside Politics is a good yet bad example of that...
By this I mean that it's a good example of how the media does a crappy job of reporting the whole story and telling the truth. However, Judy Woodruf is a god aweful journalist (if she even deserves that title) and I'd say that generally the media (at least the print media) is a cut above what is seen on Inside Politics. Although, I do have to admit that I like Bill Schneider. I wish he'd run the show instead of judy.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 05:14 PM
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32. Bill Schneider??
Mr. American Enterprise Institute??? (running from room screaming)
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:31 PM
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8. No cum-stained dresses, dude
:shrug:
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:32 PM
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9. I know.
I have been so disappointed in the majority of our country. They are too into their fear of terrorists and into being consumers to pay enough attention.

I take breaks from politics because I would drown in my own outrage. I have hope for Kerry this November, and that's what keeps me going.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:34 PM
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10. Tom Daschle might be deeply saddened
Possibly.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:45 PM
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11. I'm outraged,
just can't write as well as you.
Wouldn't you love to hear a Kerry speech that says:

"I'm totally dumbfounded over the lack of any meaningful action against the Bush administration. What is it going to take to awaken the people in this country??? Any single scandal (they come almost every day now) would be enough to impeach this guy. So, what's the deal. Am I (we) that out of touch with the rest of the country???

This man and his friends are changing our country. It's looking less and less like the place I thought I grew up in. We attacked another country based on lies and unfounded evidence. We are holding people without any due course...no counsel. We've alienated the world community. We're diverting money from one war to the next without the nod from Congress. Our troops are being treated horribly by our government. Bush is unable to admit to any mistakes (what's that about?). Our environment is being raped daily. We have an "official" religion permeating our policies. A CIA agent was "outed" as political revenge. We are financially bankrupt...is there no end?

Sorry...I'm just so pissed off right now. I'm disappointed in the press and the millions of Americans that live in denial. If Bush gets another 4 years...I mean, I can't even fathom that right now."

Thanks for speaking what I'm feeling, and, please, send it to Kerry. :yourock:
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:10 PM
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14. Thanks
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:20 PM
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25. You're welcome,
and did i mention 'you're brilliant when you're angry' :) .
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:51 PM
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12. I think it would be better to do something NOW
than to wait until Kerry is elected (assuming that he is).

Because once Kerry is elected and then stays the DAMN course, I just think we would be happier if we had done more to protest under Bush* who started the mess.

I think MAY DAY would be a lovely day for some major acts of civil disobedience. Did you have anything in mind?
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:09 PM
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13. Until we gain a foothold...
...and have control over one of the branches of government, Bush will rule this country like a king, his every whim rubberstamped into law, regardless of the fact that 50% of this nation hates him and everything he represents.

But if the Democrats gain control of Congress, and Bush gets (re)elected, LOOK THE FUCK OUT.

The question won't be, "WILL Bush be impeached," but rather "how many articles of impeachment will there be?"

That's what I'm praying for. If we're unfortunate enough to end up with Bush for another four years in the White House, I hope the Democrats are in a position to absolutely destroy him and his entire staff. By the time we'd be through with Dubya, Nixon would look like Mother Teresa.

-MR
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pjordan24 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:32 PM
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19. I believe only 47 percent of this country hates him...
Bush's approval rating is 53%
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:50 PM
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21. According to whom?
n/t
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 05:00 PM
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30. That depends almost entirely on who the hypothetical Speaker would be
Would he/she be willing to support a movement to impeach Bush? Would the hypothetical senate majority leader support it?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:18 PM
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15. The media compliance is a huge factor here;
makes it take a whole lot longer for public consciousness of Bush's "Matrix" to occur. Watching BBC (or maybe it was even CNNi) over here in Europe, I saw a British reporter basically say to a British Gov't official (who'd just commented on Iraq) "isn't that all rubbish, when the real situation is X" (didn't use exactly those words but you get the idea).

I can't speak to what TV/radio reporters were like in the 70's and before, but it would be like Tom Brokaw asking Gen. Kimmit "Doesn't it begin to strain the credibility of the average American for us to refer to anyone who opposes us as 'terrorists'? Isn't that a bit disingenuous?"
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:24 PM
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16. Excellent Points
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:26 PM
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17. I don't think the Vietnam War protesters
had any encouragement or anything from the media. I remember that the media seemed to mostly treat any of the anti-war people as hooligans, until it got to be a mainstream idea. But that took a long time.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:00 PM
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22. It changed when the VVAW started to get exposure.
Until then it was easy to call the anti-war people "communist lefties" and dismiss the protesters. The VVAW pretty much destroyed that myth and gave credance to movement to end the war.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:32 PM
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18. I feel the same way........
Where is the media, where are the Democrats in Washington.....it's like they're scared to question Bush, to speak out. Where is the outrage on the publics part......if Bush's numbers go up with all of the negative news, I can't imagine how much they will go up with a week of good news.

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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:41 PM
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20. The Media
I understand the excellent points concerning the media. There is no denying it's influence. However, what does that say about the American people? Are we that shallow? Do we really believe everything that the media throws at us? Or are we simply to busy and need the media to do the work for us...hand feeding us.

So, I suppose the next question would be...How does one turn the media around? Is it on it's own evolutionary course? Like some "flu" that needs to run its course until it reaches "critical mass?" If a media outlet moves too soon...then they are considered radical...right? But if they rise together, they will make the turn.

Who knows? The media is its own animal.

-Paige
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:01 PM
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23. Below is a link to a large number media outlets....
It was posted here at DU a few days ago. From time to time, I(as well as many others on DU) call or email various media outlets and encourage them in a tactful way to report or investigate certain issues.

Investigative reporting on the part of the media basically stopped when Bush took office. In fact, John Dean made the comment that "it was like turning a light switch off".



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1413842
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:10 PM
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24. America really is now Germany of the early 30's - looking for a father fig
figure/savior/fuhrer

In short, this country is becoming a disgusting piece of shit - and an incredibly dangerous menace to the entire world! And I used to be immensely proud of it! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:puke:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:24 PM
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26. I share your outrage
Plus, I too am outraged over the LACK of outrage! It is indeed appalling. Part of me ALMOST wants to say that if BushCo. gets another term, America will be getting the government it deserves.

Bake
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:26 PM
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27. Well pretty much that's
why we're all here. I started coming here after the election. I sought out liberal sites cause I knew you all were out there somewhere. Everyone around me thought bush was/is great. I couldn't stand it. Thank Gawd for DU! You have saved me.

I know how ya feel P. I think we all do. And at some time, we've all had our rants. It helps.:hug:
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tiedye Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:52 PM
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28. What is impeachable
Unfortunately, the American sheeple think that oral sex is impeachable, but it is lying. Bush is impeachable.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 05:12 PM
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31. Don't be sorry . . .
I felt this way when they were impeaching President Clinton. It got to the point I just didn't turn the T.V. on. Ignorance is sanity at times.

I don't know what to do. Revolution? Boy, maybe our forefathers for saw this type of greed in some men and new we would need the "right to bear arms."

Well, all the military is over there, (our news people tell us that everyday anyway). It's possible if we can get organized. These marches and protests don't solve a damn thing . . . yeah, something needs to be done . . . but what????
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:08 PM
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33. I don't know...but...
Someone asked me once (a Conservative) "So, do you want Clinton to be a role model for your children?" I said of course not! I wouldn't want any politician to be a role model. I continued to say: I didn't elect a Pope, I elected someone to lead this country. And as far as I'm concerned, he did a pretty damn good job! I don't care about his sex life. That is between him and his wife.

And now, we have someone in office that has clearly violated and abused his high office. Yet, we hear nothing of impeachment! It's as if the world has turned upside down.

Ironic that we replaced a Rhodes (sp) scholar with an admitted "C" student. Bush is almost proud of the fact that he's an "Everyman." However, for me, he is a poor version of Homer Simpson.

God help us all.

-Paige

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