Pointed out on Aaron Brown, Bush2 disses Dad

[DianeG5385]

In a speech to newspaper editors today Bush2 promised that we wouln't "cut and run like we did before" followed by a little head nod. Woodward in his book states that he did not consult daddy in the run up to the Iraq war but a "higher father". Anecdotally, it has been indicated that Daddy is not in support of Bush2's position, "having trouble with my boy"

[lindashaw]

1. That's always been my theory...not that Bush wanted to finish

his father's unfinished business, but that he wanted to show his dad up. He takes the opposite approach in almost everything. I think he has a secret disgust for his father. Only my opinion...

[kskiska]

8. Agree.

It's my theory that the old man told him more than once that he'd never amount to anything, that Jeb was the one who'd follow in his footsteps. Now it's payback time for both Poppy and Jeb. It's quite possible that Jeb's political career is in the crapper, whether * wins or loses. (If * wins, it's highly unlikely that Jeb would be chosen to be his successor. If he loses, Jeb would be tainted.) * has usurped Jeb's position in the dynasty, and Jeb must really hate him for it.

[NMDemDist2]

10. he has followed exactly in GHWB's footsteps

except his dad was successful and Jr has failed in most things he's every touched. We will insure that he follows his dad in one more thing


Like Father Like Son----- Out in One

[Poiuyt]

13. I guess that W has a bigger penis than Poppy

[burythehatchet]

14. I think you're partially correct

Yes he does hold his father in contempt. However, the source of his mental problems is an intense self-hatred. I believe that the level of self acceptance defines the level of compassion that one can show to the world. George Bush hates himself with an intensity that is unimaginable. That is why he is a threat to mankind.

In order to overcompensate for this reality, he tries to portray himself as everything that he is not.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

24. Or, he could just be a dickhead

N'est pas?

[BillZBubb]

22. Classic Oedipus Complex

Bush has got it bad. He was always a failure compared to the old man, but now he's top dog.

[BabsSong]

2. Who was the "higher father"??---the oil barrons, perhaps?

This scum bucket is such a snake oil salesman.

[berner59]

5. Did you see the swagger....

when Bush said that??? He was leaning to one side and smirked... It made my blood boil...what a prick...

[DianeG5385]

21. I'm not shocked

This is his only job that Daddy didn't get him. Doesn't have to be nice to him anymore.

[DianeG5385]

15. It was a religious reference

to a higher power. Apparently he talks to God, but not his dad.

[JohnyCanuck]

3. You would think "higher dad" would have

been a bit more cooperative in smoothing the way in Iraq seeing as how Dubya is only following higher dad's instructions.

[rfranklin]

4. Bush was never trying to "avenge" his father...

He's been trying to show up Poppy with his tax cuts and his invasion of Iraq and capture of Saddam. It occurred to me recently that the Oedipal conflict was the driving force behind Junior's impetuous behavior. (Can you believe he wants to steal Babs from his daddy?}

[charlie]

6. You know what this is about

If we could get a Babs-lookalike to give him some, his global tantrum would end now.

[peekaloo]

11. lol...same warped wavelength!!!!!!!

:D

[charlie]

17. Warped? Hah!

Dubya's warped. We're clear and neutral as court stenographers.

[peekaloo]

18. tee hee....no offense......I just feel so dirty.

:evilgrin:

Oedipus Tex!

[peekaloo]

7. CBS News pointed it out tonight also

remember Woodward saying that Boo$h said his father "was not a father one went to for sympathy or strength....."


I think he should just sleep with his momma and get it over with...}(

[madmax]

16. My thoughts exactly

:evilgrin:

Oedipus bush.

[JimT]

9. I agree

"He's been trying to show up Poppy with his tax cuts and his invasion of Iraq and capture of Saddam. It occurred to me recently that the Oedipal conflict was the driving force behind Junior's impetuous behavior. (Can you believe he wants to steal Babs from his daddy?}"

I've been thinking the same thing. Wasn't there also some instance where he challenged daddy to a fist fight?

[Ilsa]

12. I was wondering if anyone wanted to discuss this.

I think Shrub feels intense competition with his father's resume. Shrub has always been bailed out of everything he's attempted on his own, or relied on partners to see him through ventures that succeeded. I keep wondering when someone will step forward to claim they wrote his papers for him in college.

When Shrub wouldn't talk to his father about going into Iraq, I think Baker went to Bush early before the war to try and persuade him not to go this route because of what they knew would happen. Now DimSon is relying on his conviction that God is leading him into remaking the ME, and it will all turn out just peachy because it is God's will. And he is resolute in this conviction, which I find very disturbing and pathological.

[Wickerman]

19. wow, I sure wouldn't admit to doing C work at Ivy League schools

for that idiot.

Excellent caricature of a madman you have painted, Ilsa. Unfortunately, it is real and we get to suffer the consequences of his delusions. Pathological indeed.

[DianeG5385]

20. I think that's why he's so unmovable

He is doing this completely based on a personal agenda first, a political agenda second (he seriously thinks this will get him re-elected) and has no regard for the American lives or Iraqi lives lost so that he can get back at daddy!

[grasswire]

23. straight from an epic drama...

...a failed and weak son of a successful and absent father; oedipal issues; a cold and critical mother who nonetheless forced her son to parent his siblings and be responsible for her happiness; a developing narcissistic personality disorder; failure after failure; substance abuse. Then appointed to limitless power by those who flatter and manipulate him and feed his personality disorder.

It is the worst of psycho-dramas for the rest of us. The civilized world could end in the hands of this man.

[DeepModem Mom]

25. "So George, How Do You Feel about Your Mom and Dad?"

A view from a British psychologist:


So George, how do you feel about your mom and dad?

Psychologist Oliver James analyses the behaviour of the American president

Tuesday September 2, 2003
The Guardian


....Bush had a profound loathing for this perfect model of American citizenship (GHW Bush) whose very success made the son feel a failure. Rebelliousness was an unconscious attack on him and a desperate attempt to carve out something of his own. Far from paternal emulation, Bush described his goal at school as "to instil a sense of frivolity". Contemporaries at Yale say he was like the John Belushi character in the film Animal House, a drink-fuelled funseeker.

***

As he grew older, the fury towards his father was increasingly directed against himself in depressive drinking. But it was not all his father's fault. There was also his insensitive and domineering mother.

Barbara Bush is described by her closest intimates as prone to "withering stares" and "sharply crystalline" retorts. She is also extremely tough. When he was seven, Bush's younger sister, Robin, died of leukaemia and several independent witnesses say he was very upset by this loss. Barbara claims its effect was exaggerated but nobody could accuse her of overreacting: the day after the funeral, she and her husband were on the golf course....

***

Bush's deep hatred, as well as love, for both his parents explains how he became a reckless rebel with a death wish. He hated his father for putting his whole life in the shade and for emotionally blackmailing him. He hated his mother for physically and mentally badgering him to fulfil her wishes. But the hatred also explains his radical transformation into an authoritarian fundamentalist. By totally identifying with an extreme version of their strict, religion-fuelled beliefs, he jailed his rebellious self. From now on, his unconscious hatred for them was channelled into a fanatical moral crusade to rid the world of evil....


http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1033904,00.html