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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:08 AM
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Vietnamese See Parallels Between Situation There, U.S.-led Iraq War
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0421-10.htm

Published on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 by Knight-Ridder

Vietnamese See Parallels Between Situation There, U.S.-led Iraq War
by Ben Stocking

HANOI, Vietnam - The Vietnamese people have some friendly advice for the United States: Don't make the same mistake twice. Get out of Iraq before it's too late.

As a divided America debates whether the U.S.-led Iraq war is "Bush's Vietnam," opinion in Vietnam is united: What the Vietnamese call the "American War" was a misguided adventure, and so is the war in Iraq.

In two dozen interviews, Vietnamese from across the country noted some key differences between the two conflicts, such as the lack of a unified Iraqi opposition.

But nearly all said there was a common theme: imperialist wars of aggression in which a rich, powerful country meddles in the affairs of a smaller, weaker foe whose culture it doesn't understand. The result, they say, could be another quagmire.

"It seems like the United States is going to be stuck in Iraq, just like they got stuck in Vietnam years ago," said Col. Tran Nhung, who writes for Quan Doi Nhan Dan, Vietnam's military daily. "No country in the world will accept a foreign invasion - this is a fundamental truth."

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:13 AM
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1. One could argue Iraq is worse
At least in Vietnam the goal (no matter how unrealistic or how ineptly it was realized) was to counter the spread of Communism and the human rights abuses it had engendered. There was a nobler purpose.

Iraq is thinly-veiled corporate greed. That's all.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:17 AM
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4. depends on how you view that
"At least in Vietnam the goal (no matter how unrealistic or how ineptly it was realized) was to counter the spread of Communism and the human rights abuses it had engendered. There was a nobler purpose."

The Vietnamese weer fighting foreign occupation and there was a LONG history of antagonism between themselves and the Chinese, were they not forced into an arrangement with the Communists the US could have had a pro US nationalist government in South East Asia instead of 50,000 body bags and an eventual Communist country.

The "reasons" for Vietnam were every bit as implausible as those given for Iraq.


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:24 AM
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6. Few natural resources
it makes all the difference in the world
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narcjen Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:19 AM
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5. In Vietnam, it was all about corporate greed as well.

Don't delude yourself. The idea that the US waged the Vietnam war in the name of human rights is naive at best.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:35 AM
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10. It was a French 'colony'
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 01:36 AM by G_j
they got their asses kicked and bailed, the US steps in...
Colonialiasm, Empire the same old thing..
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:27 AM
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7. a war for human rights?!
Sure, they killed millions of people to fight human rights abuses.. There was no "nobility" in the purpose there.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:29 AM
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8. Well 35 million deaths are attributed to Stalin
so I guess it's all relative.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 11:14 PM
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11. three million Vietnamese
50,000 Americans

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narcjen Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:14 AM
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2. Great advice

but as long as there are great fortunes to be made by the defense contractors, the war shall press on for a few more decades. Or until there's no one left to shoot in the ME. Whichever comes first.
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:15 AM
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3. Not the
Vietnamese who escaped to the US they overwhelmingly support the war in Iraq. Vietnamese in Nam publicly dis the War but behind closed doors who knows. Remember 99% of the Vietnamese in the US now fought on the US side
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:31 AM
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9. makes no sense
"Vietnamese in Nam publicly dis the War but behind closed doors who knows."

Why? Do you think there is some sort of peer pressure to criticize the Iraq war? That is absurd. I see no reason not to take these people at their word.
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