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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 05:35 AM
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Is Bush addicted to religion?
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 05:36 AM by wyldwolf
Is Bush addicted to Religion? Religion can be an addiction. To many, it replaces a former addiction, like drugs or alcohol.

Last year CNN noticed Bush talking more about religion. The news network points out that the "pResident often uses a strict good-and-evil compass to navigate national issues, he has always peppered his speeches with exhortations to moral and civic duty. And with war, tragedy and terrorism confronting him all at once, Bush's allusions to spirituality and morality seem to be increasing."

"I welcome faith to help solve the nation's deepest problems," Bush told a convention of religious broadcasters last week.

Earlier, in his State of the Union address, he said, "The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity."

Speaking to the broadcasters in Nashville, Tennessee, last week about the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Bush said, "We carried our grief to the Lord Almighty in prayer."

Is Bush's fixation on all things christian good or bad? "This president is using general references and, beyond that, terminology and vocabulary that come straight out of a very particular religious tradition, which is evangelical Christianity," said the Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, a Louisiana pastor and executive director of the Interfaith Alliance Foundation, an umbrella interfaith group.

"I think his rhetoric implies a lack of appreciation for the vast pluralism of religion in this nation," Gaddy said.

Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said Bush speeches have started sounding "more and more like a sermon in a church" and risk alienating significant chunks of his constituency.

Not only is his increased use of religion alienating to a large number of Americans, it my be indicative of a mental illness.

Bush believes he was "born again" after supposedly kicking a cocaine habit and alcoholism in the 80s. But he may have traded substance dependency for religious dependency.

According to When God Becomes A Drug: Breaking the Chains of Religious Addiction and Abuse, by Father Leo Booth, religious addiction is a mental illness and has the following symptoms... all which Bush apparently has.

1. Black-and-white, good/bad, either/or simplistic thinking: one way or the other. Compare this symptom to Bush's "you are either with us or against us" rhetoric and his labeling of countries who oppose him as "evil doers."

2. Magical thinking that God will fix you/ do it all, without serious work on your part. "I welcome faith to help solve the nation's deepest problems," President Bush told a convention of religious broadcasters last week.

3. Uncompromising judgmental attitudes: readiness to find fault or evil out there... (sound familiar?)


4. Compulsive or obsessive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture. This has been the hallmark of Bush's speeches since he took office.

5. Believing that sex is dirty; believing our bodies or physical pleasures are evil. Bush, as well as the Republican party in general, have always seemed to be anti-sex. They spent over $100 million to prove Bill Clinton had a blowjob and Bush has been promoting abstinance to the exclusion of condoms in the fight against STDs. Now, they're using the arm of the FCC to combat "indecency."

6. Conflict and argumentation with science, medicine, and education. So far, Bush has defunded Reading is Fundamental, he has obstructed funding for stem cell research, he has made it harder to put species on the endangered list, he tried to cut birth control coverage for federal workers, he delayed release of a report linking dioxin consumption to cancer, he has removed protections for marine wildlife, he pulled of the Kyoto treaty, he has kept the arsenic levels in drinking water high, he reversed the U.S.'s stance on carbon monoxide emissions, he has rolled back provisions of the Clean Air Act, he allowed pesticide experiments involving humans against the advice of scientists, he forced terminally ill residents of Oregon to die painful deaths by superseding their euthanasia laws, he dismisses a report from his own administration on global warming, he pushes abstinence-only sex education, he chose Jerry Thacker, a Pennsylvania marketing consultant who has characterized AIDS as the "gay plague," to serve on the Presidential Advisory Commission on HIV and AIDS, and more! All this for his rich corporate sponsors and his god.

7. Progressive detachment from the real work, isolation and breakdown of relationships. It seems that Bush is always taking vacations. And notice how Bush has effectively isolated the U.S. from many of our staunchest allies!

8. Manipulating scripture or texts, feeling specially chosen, claiming to receive special messages from God. Though Bush has never specifically stated he was chosen by God, that is a mantra of many that voted for him. He does, however, have a knack for pulling scriptures out of the blue when he gives speeches.

9. Attitude of righteousness or superiority: "we versus the world." We're seeing this symptom in Bush manifest itself more and more each day!

(taken from an e-mail)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 05:41 AM
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1. It's pretty simple
People dive into drugs, alcohol, and religion for all the exact same reasons - they need help coping with life's difficulties. They need a crutch to deal with reality. I'm not talking about the casual users, I'm talking about the addicts, and George Bush is truly a weak person who needs such a stabilizing force in his life. Every other part of his personality exudes it. His fake cockiness - it's just an act so the rest of the world doesn't see how fragile he is. His belligerence reveals a classic bully psyche. Mid life crisis? Well, for most of us average folk, we go buy a new car. He goes and buys a baseball team, a business that has very little potential to earn high profits. All of this stuff about him simply SCREAMS the fact that he does not have a spine.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:27 AM
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4. The baseball investment
paid off 'big-time' for the Chimp, mainly because the initial money he invested was borrowed almost interest-free from his daddy's friends.

Then his billionaire sugar daddy Tom Hicks gave him three times more shares than he had first "bought" when Chimp closed out his investment in the Rangers to run for governor. I think I read where he cleared around $15 million in what was basically a no-money-down deal.

One can just imagine the Chimp after that one gazing heavenward and saying, "Thank you, Lord. I must be livin' right after all."
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:58 AM
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12. Big question here is...
how much of that money was "over the top" in a shielded, backwards sort of campaign contribution?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:34 AM
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5. yes dysfunctional to the max
It's chilling in Path to War, Woodward describes him as needing to read people's body language, he brought Tommy Franks alone to Crawford while planning Iraq War so he could *read* him. (Remember when Bu$h looked into Putin's eyes and saw his 'soul?')

Hey George, real adults communicate with words, backed up by actions. And I 'd prefer my presidents to utilize a little more intellectual capacity. This guy frightens me with his false reliance upon intuition.
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:10 AM
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2. HL Mencken said ...
" The believing mind is externally impervious to evidence. The most that can be accomplished with it is to induce it to substitute one delusion for another. It rejects all overt evidence as wicked."

BTW, please don't flame me for quoting Mencken. I know that, it many ways, he was a despicable man.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:40 AM
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6. Mencken defined the paradoxes and hypocrisies of American society
in the 20th Century, along with Will Rogers. His personal views lack compassion, insight, and enlightenment, but his remarks are usually on target. E.g., "Nobody ever got rich underestimating the taste of the American public."
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:49 AM
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7. I think he said ...
Nobody ever went broke underestimating ....
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:05 AM
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10. I stand corrected. Thank you. I like getting quotes right too.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:17 AM
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3. Bush has said he was "Chosen by God,"
according to author Stephen Mansfield.

"Bush told a Texan evangelist that he had had a premonition of some form of national disaster happening.

Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'"

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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:49 AM
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8. Bush is addicted
to the power to be able to go to war and bomb and kill; he uses religion as an excuse to do it.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:50 AM
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9. I don't think so
I think he's just an opportunist who knows that if he just keeps saying he's a Christian and conservative Republican he can rob us blind and get away with anything. One can lie, cheat, steal, start fake wars and joke about them, send one's maid out for illegal drugs, grope countless women, just anything at all really, as long as you use the code words.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:18 AM
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11. I've always thought addictive personalities can never truly go away...
just replaced.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:16 AM
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13. Addicted or not, all the "symptoms" listed by that email are true for him
And he has millions of followers who have the same kind of thinking. As long as he can claim to be a born-again Christian who has a direct pipeline to God, then one has to believe that the Chimperor's decisions are beyond question and reproach.

I think he and many of his followers are as addicted to money and power more than anything. A very narrow, self-centered interpretation of the Bible comes in handy for them because it bolsters their case, and relieves their consciences of the guilt they should rightly be bearing for the damage they're doing. It's called BAD THEOLOGY.

Their version of God is one who grants every selfish wish to those whose definition of "immoral" is only appplied within the realm of sexuality.

IMHO, in most instances when Bush makes references to God, he's "taking the Lord's name in vain". He may not be using curse words, but he's using God to get away with doing things that a real, fair, and loving God would never advocate.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant. Anyway, here's a rairly recent discussion of Bush's "theology" from a different viewpoint on the religious spectrum:

Dangerous Religion by Jim Wallis
Sojourners, September-October 2003

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0309&article=030910
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:30 AM
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18. Then when you factor in 12 step type programs for addiction...
that are heavily reliant on God or a higher power, you can see how one addiction replaces another.

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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 10:04 AM
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19. I think they call this "transferring" one addiction
for another.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:19 AM
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14. Religion can make you a simpleton
...people relinquish their own will and reasoning...

Once they get you to believe in the resurection...you will believe anything...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:24 AM
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15. About as much as one is addicted to "the dog ate my homework"
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 08:24 AM by robbedvoter
I do not believe for a second that he believes/feels anything more about God/Bible than he is "addicted" to "evildoers" "terra' and the rest of his catch prases floating freely in his head.
His addictions - the ones I can tell of; money and killing people - not necessarily in that order.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:25 AM
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16. no, that's just his pandering to one of his extremist minority bases.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:14 AM
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17. Personally -- yes, he is. So is Tom DeLay.
Both are "dry drunks" who stopped drinking when they "turned to God". Both exhibit the same symptoms of "addiction" to religion that is classic among people who simply substitute one addiction for another.

With Bush, his exercise regimen fits into the same category. This is not uncommon for people who overcome some form of substance abuse.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 10:34 AM
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20. You mean
"Religion is the opium of the chimps"?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 10:55 AM
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21. Religion is like alcohol
They both work best when used in MODERATION.

:headbang:
rocknation
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 11:14 AM
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22. well, he is an addictive person
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 11:15 AM by leftofthedial
he's a sociopath

I think neoconservatism is a mental illness.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 11:19 AM
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23. Yep, I think he is a dry drunk who traded booze for Jesus
:(
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