Report that Nader has raises $600,000 already. More than 2000.

[napi21]

IS there a way to find out how many of these dontributors are Repubs?

The report did say most of it was via the net.

I suspect most were Pubs because they want him on the ballott so badly.

[mot78]

1. Go to fundrace.org

They list everyone who's donated to Bush, Kerry, and Nader.

[napi21]

3. I just checked. Nader isn't there.

Only Bush and all the Dems.

[fryguy]

2. wonderful

now he's putting himself in position to REALLY f*ck up the election..... :argh:

[buddy22600]

4. somebody needs to take him out to the woodshed

[ShaneGR]

5. Just crosscheck donor names

www.opensecrets.org.... did he file a first quarter report?

[yellowcanine]

6. Actually that is not very much - he needs a lot more if he is going to

get on ballots in most states. In 2000 he was on the ballot as the Green Party candidate. This year he will need to get enough registered voter sigs to wualify for the ballot in many states - and the time is short so he will probably need to use paid signature collectors rather than volunteers if he is to get enough signatures. You always need a lot of extra signatures to make up for the bogus ones. I personally am doubtful that he will be on the ballot in very many states - and that may be by design on his part - gives him one more thing to bitch about and he can't be blamed for hurting Kerry's chances if he is not on the ballot in the battleground states.

[bucknaked]

7. Check for Nader donors on opensecrets.org

(hope these links work)

Look up Nader donors (for 2004)...

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?NumOfThou=0&txtName=&txtState=%28all+states%29&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=nader&txt2004=Y&Order=N


and cross-reference conspicuous doners (copy and paste their name as written in the Nader donor list) with donors for Bush at this link...

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/index.asp


For example, I found this guy...

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?NumOfThou=0&txtName=BAILEY%2C+R+KENT&txtState=%28all+states%29&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=&txt2004=Y&txt2002=Y&txt2000=Y&Order=N

Over $6000 to Bush for this election cycle, and $250 to Nader. ;-)

[napi21]

8. Am I being too paranoid?

Could it be that those Pug donors to Nader really don't like Bush and are funding Nader because the can't possibly vote for a Dem?

I don't think so, but I guess it's possible.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. No

They're funding Nader so he can more effectively steal votes from Kerry!

[HFishbine]

13. No, no, no

The repugs are funding Kerry so that he'll steal votes from Nader.


SCAIFE, RITCHIE MRS
PITTSBURGH,PA 15232
HOMEMAKER
7/21/2003
$25,000
Republican National Cmte

SCAIFE, RITCHIE
PITTSBURGH,PA 15232
SELF-EMPLOYED/HOMEMAKER
4/25/2003
$2,000
Kerry, John

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

14. Not a chance

Did it ever occur to you that this person is syphoning money to both parties in order to stay in the loop no matter who wins? Or possibly they funded Kerry back before the primaries because they thought he was the easiest opponent for Bush? Or maybe, being in Pittsburgh and all, this has something to do with the Heinz Corporation? There is no way in hell they would ever view Nader as a bigger threat to them than Kerry and would NEVER want to give Kerry votes.

[bucknaked]

15. My best guess...

...is that many Repugs are content that Bush has enough money right now, in fact, one guy I had looked up gave $2000 to Bush in '00, and gave $250 to Nader this year. One name I looked up, gave heavily to Bush in '00, but (so far) this year, he's only donated to the Nader campaign.

[HFishbine]

11. Guilt by association?

Then damn that Kerry!

SCAIFE, RITCHIE
PITTSBURGH,PA 15232
SELF-EMPLOYED/HOMEMAKER
8/13/2003
$2,000
Bush, George W

SCAIFE, RITCHIE MRS
PITTSBURGH,PA 15232
HOMEMAKER
7/21/2003
$25,000
Republican National Cmte


SCAIFE, RITCHIE
PITTSBURGH,PA 15232
SELF-EMPLOYED/HOMEMAKER
4/25/2003
$2,000
Kerry, John

[Alpha Wolf]

9. If we could only get Nader...

on the Democrat ticket in place of Kerry. Now that would be the dream scenario.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

12. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Nader can go burn in hell for eternity before I EVER vote to put him on the Democratic Party's ticket! FUCK NADER!!!

[Alpha Wolf]

20. Tell me how you really feel...

Seriously though, I'm just frustrated with Kerry right now. At least Nader has some balls and says what he really believes-- hence my sad attempt at humor to have him on the ticket. Kerry is just so frickin' blah. White toast. Someone needs to breathe some life into this campaign.

[Sparkly]

22. It's easy for Nader to say anything

He's not actually working for a majority of votes! He'll never have to put any of his one-paragraph "proposals" in place! He can say anything he wants to, as unpopular to the mainstream as it may be and as appealing to the left as it may be -- and it has *nothing* to do with "balls."

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. Couldn't have said it better myself

It's easy to be your own man when no one gives a fuck about you.

[Alpha Wolf]

28. Is this all we can ever hope for?

That for true progressives to get elected they have to pretend to be diet Republicans?

I'm not trying to argue here. I mean it as a serious question. How do we ever turn the corner. How can we ever get someone like a Dean or a Kucinich elected if we keep repeating the pattern of nominating Democrats who act like Republicans most of the time?

[beyurslf]

16. Dream or nightmare?

NO nader on any ticket for any party.

[arcos]

17. the DEMOCRAT ticket, or the DEMOCRATIC ticket? n/t

[Alpha Wolf]

18. Actually, it should have been "Democrat's"

Thank goodness for the grammar police...

[Alpha Wolf]

19. Darn, I screwed up again... " Democrats' "

My fourth grade teacher told me I's be judged on these sorts of things some day. I should have listened...

[seabeyond]

27. i dont want nadar, his behavior this election

he is done in my book. dont want him representing me at all

and it needs to get out and outloud if he is getting his money from repugs. shifts the whole story

[anarchy1999]

21. This is an argumemt I can not take on.

I met with Nader yesterday. I will always respect him and the people he surrounds himself with. He has one message and he has always been the consummate consumer advocate. End the control of the corporations. Plain and simple. I do not understand why he is trying to run this time, except it is much like Kucinich. And I will support Dennis to my death.

[SoCalDem]

24. Rich repubes have already maxxed out their blood money

for Bush.. Now they can get a "do-over" with Nader, before the convention and then again after it..

Repubes have no intention of voting for poor old Ralphie, they just want the guy to be able to afford commercial that trash Kerry..

They play dirty :)..we need to take lessons :)

[Teaser]

25. It's because of the internet.

It has gotten easier to donate via the internet than it was in 2000. And more people trust it.

Does not necessarily indicate an increased base of support.

[John_H]

26. I'm telling you guys, there's an easy way to get nader out.

Whatever the Rethugs are donating to his campaign, offer him an equal amount in Fidelity Mutual Fund shares in his personal account and an agreement from labor unions that they'll never try to unionize in his organization ever again. Ralph would drop out in ten seconds.

[Barbara Ann]

29. That's a drop in the bucket, nationwide. And most of it is probably

Republicans wanting to stir up a problem.

Nader is not a problem. The opposition wants him to be, though.