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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:47 AM
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Has anyone seen this form e-mail allegedly written by Zell Miller?
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 06:48 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Subject: Fw: a nonpartisan view, please

This expresses exactly what most of us feel (Republican or Democrat). Zell Miller is a Senator from Georgia and a Democrat. But he speaks the truth and this needed to be said....

U.S. Senator Zell Miller
Floor Statement: 'A House Divided Cannot Stand'
Remarks as Delivered on the Senate Floor

After watching the harsh acrimony generated by the September 11 Commission - which, let me say at the outset, is made up of good and able members - I've come to seriously question this panel's usefulness.

I believe it will ultimately play a role in doing great harm to this country, for its unintended consequences, I fear, will be to energize our enemies and demoralize our troops.

After being drowned in a tidal wave of all who didn't do enough before 9/11, I have come to believe that the Commission should issue a report that says: "No one did enough in the past. No one did near enough."

Then thank everyone for serving, send them home and let's get on with the job of protecting this country in the future.

Tragically, these hearings have proved to be a very divisive diversion for this country. Tragically, they have devoured valuable time, looking backwards when we should be looking forward.

Can you imagine handling the attack on Pearl Harbor this way? Can you imagine Congress, the media and the public standing for this kind of political gamesmanship and finger pointing after that "day of infamy" in 1941?

Some partisans tried that ploy, but they were soon quieted by the patriots who understood how important it was to get on with the war and take the battle to America's enemies, and not dwell on what FDR knew when.

You see, back then the highest priority was to win a war, not win an election. That's what made them "The Greatest Generation."

I realize that many well-meaning Americans see the hearings as "democracy in action." Years ago, when I was teaching political science, I probably would have had my class watching it live on television and using that very phrase with them.

There are also the not-so-well-meaning political operatives who see these hearings as an opportunity to "score cheap points."

Then, there are the Media Meddlers who see this as "great theater" that can be played out on the evening news and on endless talk shows for a week or more.

Congressional hearings have long been one of Washington's most entertaining pastimes. Joe McCarthy Watergate. Iran Contra. They all kept us glued to the TV, and made for conversation around the water coolers and arguments over a beer at the corner pub.

A Congressional hearing in Washington, D.C. is the ultimate aphrodisiac for political groupies and partisan punks.

But, it's not the groupies, punks and television-sotted American public that I'm worried about. This latter crowd can get excited and divided over just about anything. Whether it's some off-key wanna-be dreaming of being the American Idol, or what brainless bimbo The Bachelor or Average Joe will choose or who will Donald Trump fire next week.

No, it is the real enemies of America that I'm concerned about.

These evil killers who right now, right now are gleefully watching the shrill partisan finger pointing of these hearings and grinning like a mule eating briars.

They see this as a major split within the Great Satan America. They see anger, they see division, instability, bickering, peevishness and dissension.

They see the President of the United States hammered unmercifully. They see all this and they are greatly, greatly encouraged.

We should not be doing anything to encourage our enemies in this battle between good and evil. Yet, these hearings, in my opinion, are doing just that.

We are playing with fire. We're playing directly into the hands of our enemy by allowing these hearings to become the great divider they have become.

Dick Clarke's book and its release coinciding with these hearings have done this country a tremendous disservice, and someday we will reap its whirlwind.

Long ago, Sir Walter Scott observed that revenge is "the sweetest morsel that ever was cooked in hell."

The vindictive Clarke has now had his revenge, but what kind of hell has he, his CBS publisher and his axe-to-grind advocates unleashed?

These hearings, coming on the heels of the election the terrorists influenced in Spain, bolster and energize our evil enemies as they have not been energized since 9/11.

Chances are very good that these evil enemies of America will attempt to influence our 2004 election in a similar dramatic way as they did Spain's. And to think that could never be in this country is to stick your head in the sand.

That is why the sooner we stop this endless bickering over the past and join together to prepare for the future, the better off this country will be. There are some things - whether this city believes it or not - that are just more important than political campaigns.

The recent past is so ripe for political second-guessing "gotcha" and Monday morning quarter-backing And it is so tempting in an election year. We should not allow ourselves to indulge that temptation. We should put our country first.

Every administration from Jimmy Carter to George W. Bush bears some of the blame. Dick Clarke bears a big heap of it because it was he who was in the catbird's seat to do something about it for more than a decade. Tragically, it was the decade in which we did the least.

We did nothing after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center in 1993, killing six and injuring more than 1,000 Americans.

We did nothing in 1996 when sixteen U.S. servicemen were killed in the bombing of the Khobar Towers.

When our embassies were attacked in 1998, killing 263 people, our only response was to fire a few missiles on an empty tent.

Is it any wonder? Is it any wonder that after that decade of weak-willed responses to that murderous terror, our enemies thought we would never fight back?

In the 1990's is when Dick Clarke should have resigned. In the 1990's is when he should have apologized. That is when he should have written his book. That is, if he really had America's best interest at heart.

Some will say, "We owe it to the families" to get more information about what happened in the past and I can understand that. But no amount of finger-pointing will bring our victims back.

So, now we owe it to future families and all of America now in jeopardy not to encourage more terrorists, resulting in even more grieving families, perhaps many more over the ones of 9/11.

It's obvious to me that this country is rapidly dividing itself into two camps: the wimps and the warriors.

The ones who want to argue and assess and appease, and the ones who want to carry this fight to our enemies and kill them before they kill us. And, in case you haven't figured it out, I proudly belong to the latter.

This is a time like no other in the history of this country, and this country is being crippled with petty partisan politics of the worst possible kind. In time of war, it is not just unpatriotic; it is stupid, and it is criminal.

So, I pray that all this time, all this energy, all this talk and all this attention could be focused on the future instead of the past.

I pray we would stop pointing fingers, assigning blame and wringing our hands about what happened on that day David McCullogh has called "the worst day in our history" more than two years ago

And instead, pour all of our energy into how we can kill these terrorists before they kill us - again.

For make no mistake about it. They watch these hearings. They are scheming and smiling about the distraction and the divisiveness they see in America. And while they may not know who said it years ago in America, they know instinctively that a house divided cannot stand.

There is one other group that we should remember is listening to all of this - our troops. I was in Iraq in January and one day when I was meeting with the 1st Armored Division, a unit with a proud history known as Old Ironsides, we were discussing troop morale, and the Commanding General said it was top notch.

And I turned to the Division's Sergeant Major, the top enlisted man in the division, a big, burly, 6-foot-3, 240 pound African American and I said, "That's good, but how do you sustain that kind of morale?"

Without hesitation he narrowed his eyes, and he looked at me and said "The morale will stay high just as long as these troops know the people back home support us."

Just as long as the people back home support us. What kind of message are these hearings and the outrageously political speeches on the floor of the Senate yesterday sending to those marvelous young Americans in the uniform of our country?

I say Unite America! Before it is too late! Put aside these petty partisan differences when it comes to the protection of our people.

Argue and argue and argue and debate and debate and debate over all the other things - jobs and education and the deficit and the environment - but please, please do not use the lives of Americans and the security of this country as a cheap-shot political talking point.



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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:50 AM
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1. Hey Zell,
you ASSHOLE... Imagine if after Pearl Harbor, we invaded and occupied MEXICO!

Don't even get me started on the tax cuts during wartime!

What a shithead.

What is the procedure to kick him out of our party?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:50 AM
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2. Yeah, a Republican I know sent me that
among a bunch of other liberal-bashing materials. I would have told him that Zell Miller is no longer considered a Democrat, but there were more important things to talk about. I don't really want to waste my time talking about Miller.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:52 AM
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3. sounds Like a job for snopes
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:01 AM
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8. No need
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:54 AM
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4. so Bush's incompetence is irrelevant...
what he's saying is that it does not matter that Bush has fucked up every single thing he has done in the realm of foreign policy.

We should all be good subjects, like people in dictatorships the world over, and refrain from criticizing our dear leader.

We should just sit by as Bush undermines the safety of the US and of the world.

We should learn NOTHING from past mistakes.

Zell Miller is a foot soldier in the war to destroy American democracy.

This missive is evidence of serious treason against the principles of the Constitution, against the most fundamental principles of democracy and of this Republic.
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Elbowroom Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:58 AM
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7. zell is not a democrat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is only a Democrat by birth. He will even tell you that himself. He has even said, no matter how his views change, he will always call himself a democrat simply because he was born into a democrat loving family and democrat supporting town. This guy would suckle on Bush's balls if he had the chance. A real democrat he is not.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:03 AM
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11. Yes, I think that about sums it up.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:55 AM
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5. Isn't This The Tripe...
...he rambled with right after Clarke's testimony? Or at least parts of it?

Of course Freepers are gonna love a turncoat...most of their heroes like Raygun are. And now being a Traitor is in vogue...especially if you can get a nice government contract.

Miller is going for his 15 minutes and my watch shows he's got about 10 nanoseconds left. But it made good headlines on Faux and spread around to the hate radio and internet sites. Looks like you're getting old news.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:58 AM
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6. What he meant to say
"Tragically, the administration I have aligned myself with and defended is being shown to be untrustworthy and incompetent. Please ignore the truth for the sake of my already sullied reputation, I don't have much time left."
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:01 AM
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9. From his Senate web site
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:02 AM
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10. Real or not
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 07:09 AM by bowens43
it's total bullshit. A mixture of lies, fabrications and distortions. This sounds like it's straight out of Karl Roves play book. Exactly what we should expect from a nut case like Miller.

Zell Miller, the current administration, and those who think as they do are the enemies of America. 911 happened BECAUSE of reagan, bush the elder, the idiot-in-chief and the current crop of retreads from failed republican administrations that through ignorance and arrogance have created this current crisis.

Partisanship is EXACTLY what we need. The republicans did this and we need to make sure that EVERYONE , EVERYWHERE , knows it.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:12 AM
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12. When will Terry McAuliffe
At the very least publicly CENSURE this guy? What about his fellow democrats in the senate? I know the party does not like to lose a member (the one week PR blitz would suck), but for God's sake, once that week blows over, it is done! Can the party afford an everyday bashing from this asshole? Without censure or removal, this goes on FOREVER! 6 months of making it on the news everyday, giving ammo to the wing-nuts is UNACCEPTIBLE....

This is the kind of stuff that helps perpetuate the myth that the party is a bunch of pantywaists that cringe if you say Boo. I am sick and tired of the higher ups rolling over and playing the "if we ignore it maybe it will go away" or the "if we ignore it, it will die down quicker" game.

The party leadership needs to get on board, get vocal and get it done! Assholes like Zell need to be told to shut up or get out!
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:18 AM
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13. traitor to our country ...
how much longer will the Democratic Party leaders allow Mr. Miller to sabotage this Nation and its security ... my concern is that the investigation won't go everywhere it must go in order for us to get to the whole truth in order for us to "get on with the job of protecting this country" ... an investigation which should have begun on 9122001 ... and, Mr. Miller doesn't want us, in Colin Powell's words, 'don't go there' ... Mr. Miller stands with those responsible for M/LIHOP, and must be held accountable for his attempt to influence public opinion away from that truth ... without which, we many not have a future to focus on
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:23 AM
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14. Unlike Republicans...
... Democrats don't get themselves into a tailspin when we find that not all of us think exactly alike. Zell Miller would not be allowed to publish remarks so divergent from the "party line" were he a Republican. Democrats may not agree, but we won't try to silence him... as he would like to silence Richard Clarke and others with his attacks.

It's obvious to me that this country is rapidly dividing itself into two camps: the wimps and the warriors.

This sort of either/or thinking is exactly what ails the Republican party, and this statement of Miller's is chock full of either/or thinking. Once you limit yourself to the two choices on the far extremes you shut out all the possibilities that fall somewhere in between the two endpoints. This nation desperately needs some "out of the box" kind of creative thinking now if we are ever going to end the cycle of wars and aggression.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:28 AM
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15. It is real - and stupid and insulting to the meaning of being an American
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