"Military families don't want to see the coffins returning"

[SoCalDem]

so of course we must aquiesce to their wishes.. One of the "prompter-readers" said this a bit ago. Supposedly the military is constantly polling the families to see where they stand on this issue (right:eyes:..)

The answer will always be dependent on the question..

Question # 1..

"Would you approve of having the coffin of YOUR loved one, paraded in front of journalists, so they can photograph them and use them for publicity?"

Question # 2..

"Would you approve of having your loved one's coffin photographed, so that the people of America could pay a final tribute for the sacrifice they made?"



It's all in the wording... Push-Poll at its best/worst.

[Solly Mack]

1. Families on this post have complained about the lack of coverage

Now, the brass on this post will say different..but the families? They want it known....

[Tempest]

2. But 9/11 families do?

Bush would seem to think so considering his campaign ads.

Repug hypocrisy at its finest.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

3. your just one of those "liberal fancy pants"!

i like your sig pic.

and yes spin spin spin, "the families of the people who die don't want you to know that people died".

[Cocoa]

4. I heard this

one of the network news shows. He said the law was written at the request of military families, which I found completely implausible.

[SOteric]

5. I suspect if more military families

had to see the earthly remains of their loved ones returning in a flag-draped casket, Bush's unilateral 'war' would not have the support of military families. I can't grasp this as an attempt to do anything but sanitise and make palettable what the Pentagon and the Bush Administration both know to be unpalettable.

[tom_paine]

6. More Pravda

Push-polling is so morer subtle and isidious than outright Poll Fixing and Pravda Whoring. Plus, now that the Imperial Subjects of Amerika are gradually beginning to wake, the more subtle aspects of Goebbels v2.0, the Propaganda Strategy of the Busheviks, have now leapt to the fore.

Though the other stuff is still prominent. Gotta keep the Brownshirts in a Jew-Killing frenzy of False Righteousness and Victimization of Brutalizers...

[plcdude]

7. cnn

has a poll on this you might want to register your vote cnn.com

[moondust]

8. The coffins are not identified. It is not a personal issue.

It is a generic issue that Bushco and the military are falsely trying to personalize.

[arcane1]

9. families don't want to see their loved ones going off to war either

but the Pentagon doesn't give a shit about that, do they?

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[GiovanniC]

11. How Do You Know

Which one's Johnny?

They're not photographing OPEN coffins, for Christsake. They're photographing closed, flag draped coffins. Large, unnecessary numbers of flag draped coffins, or as you Republicans prefer to call them, "transfer tubes."

[Tellurian]

12. Or Bereavement rememberances...

The public needs to know how many families are suffering because of an illegitimate president's illegitimate War for illegitimate gain...

[SoCalDem]

13. What I find abhorrent of the media , is this...

The maudlin "interest" in the homecomings and departures of the soldiers.. THAT is a private time.. Those soldiers and families should be able to welcome back, or say goodbye to, their loved ones without a camera person trying to ask them questions and take pictures of their tearstained faces.. THAT is propaganda..

The caskets returning home is NEWS.. It happened...It's real...

The news people , on the whole, are whores, BUT if they are "allowed" or encouraged to be there when the troops leave, and return home intact, they should also be there when the soldiers return home when they have died.. Is it fair to them, to have them being brought back furtively, under cover of darkness.. They did nothing shameful by being killed.. Why the secrecy??

[Joanne98]

14. They're news models. It's a more insulting term.

Barbie and Ken read the news.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. Beware of testimonials used to support sweeping policy.

For every military family who doesn't want to see the coffins returning home, there are probably many more who do.

[SoCalDem]

16. That's my point, if they made 100 calls with question # 1

they would probably get all "NO" answers..

but

if they asked the same 100 people the other question, most would probably say yes..

when you get right down to it, soldiers are the "property" of the government until they get mustered out or are buried, so the family consideration thing is crap.. If they really cared what the families thought, they would not be sending them to war in the first place :*

[Shopaholic]

17. So Bush can use photos of WTC dead in his campaign ads. .

but legit news organizations can't show these photos to the nation that these soldiers died for? Isn't there a double standard there somewhere? Just asking. . .