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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:35 PM
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Ok - the caskets were from the Space Shuttle....It's Official!!!
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 03:36 PM by hexola
The media has ZERO credibility when it comes to news, reporting and fact checking...
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:37 PM
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1. Huh?


What kind of bullshit are they "reporting" now?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:37 PM
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2. Disinformation
Well that explains one photo, kind of, but the rest?


Is NASA on the Bush Lie Train, too?
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billyf65 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:37 PM
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3. Funny...
...saw that on Drudge.

It's odd, though. I did not see an Israeli flag among them. It would stand to reason they would drape the Israeli Astronaut/war hero in the flag of his nation...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:41 PM
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6. Plus, there were too many coffins for it to be the Shuttle astronauts!
What a fucking liar Drudge is!
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:51 PM
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13. Over on Jeeper Creeper
they are having a field day, but they miss the point: not all of them are NASA coffin photos, only some of them.

The FOIA filed specified dates from February 1, 2003 to current, and so they did a dump on the guy (whoever did the FOIA) and it included the Columbia victims.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:34 PM
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30. The one in the interior of the plane could not be of the Columbia
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 07:36 PM by Norbert
astronauts mixed in with the war casualties. The Columbia tragedy was in early Feb. 2003. We were not at war with Iraq then plus we were not suffering these kind of casualties in Afghanistan.

Drudge is a friggin hack journalist.
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sablescort Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:06 PM
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19. good eye billy!
Im inclined to agree that the Bushit administration went into panic mode and got NASA to lie about the photos.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:38 PM
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4. Got link? <nt>
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:39 PM
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5. Breaking at Drudge
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:42 PM
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7. Here's the link
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Drudge is a fucktard. Nuff said.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:04 PM
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17. Shouldn't that be...
Fuckturd? Of course, he is both.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:43 PM
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8. Let us just for a second pretend that this is true. . . .
Would that not be the fault of the Air Force for supplying those photos in response to an FOIA request for photos of war casualties?
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:43 PM
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9. link
Here's the NASA link

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2004/apr/HQ_n04059_columbia_dover.html


Humm, weren't these the photos that were released via the FOIA? Pretty stupid screwup if true.
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:48 PM
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11. If it is true
it is a stupid screwup. It's no fault of thememoryhole as far as I am concerned. Matt Drudge has to make a big issue of things like this though. I'm surprised he doesn't have his little siren going on it. I would like to tell him where to put his siren. He acts like nothing more than an ambulance chaser.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:05 PM
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18. shows how carefully they do FOIA doesn't it. (NT)
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:07 PM
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20. Weren't there more than 7 caskets?
I seem to recall there being many, many more.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:16 PM
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23. depends on the photos
some photos showed MORE, some a few. Of course by focusing on whatever photos were included by mistake from NASA, the RW hopes the public will think they are ALL fake.


Here's one of the photos we KNOW is real, more than 7 caskets...



There's at least 16 there.
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:44 PM
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10. I HATE DRUDGE
Man I hate it when that bastard is right. Wait, he's always "right."
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:49 PM
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12. Drudge is a douchbag
Just had to get that off my chest....

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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:00 PM
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14. How can they tell the difference?
Can anyone verify this, all I get at the memoryhole is a no-connect message when I click the link.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:00 PM
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15. Again, assume it's true...
...so that means there are NO casualties from the Iraq or Afghanistan war? "Oh, those aren't pictures of the WAR dead, so that must mean there's nothing to see here!" Who cares if there are pictures or NOT?! There are a TON dead from this war, and that's bad enough. Stupid bastards misleading everyone away from the REAL POINT... ::sighs::
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:03 PM
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16. Exactly, plus, which is which and
how do they know?
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Akbar Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:12 PM
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22. My Take on What This Means
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 04:12 PM by Akbar
They're implying that the war dead are not returning in flag-draped caskets. Perhaps they're being returned piled up in shipping crates. Maybe they're just being dumped somewhere in Iraq. I think the repubs have made it very clear that the American dead are not being returned in flag-draped coffins.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:08 PM
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21. OK...but so?
It doesn't really say anything about the real story - photos of war coffins were not being allowed. Some of the Memory Hole photos were still of war coffins. Typical Drudge distraction from the real issue.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:18 PM
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24. Space shutle? Coffins of what exactly?
Didn't the whole thing blow up over half of the US?
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sablescort Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:22 PM
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25. actually pieces of the shuttle was
scattered mostly all over Texas and Louisiana...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:27 PM
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26. And they ended in coffins how?
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sablescort Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:34 PM
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27. good question.
I'm fighting the freepers on the same thing....Should I post the Tami Silico photo/Seattle Times link?

Then there are some problems that are troubling me: If it was the NASA coffin pics, there are some pics that show the coffins being loaded in hearses and some in a military ambulance. Then one thing: how in the hell did NASA and Air Force manage to mix the photos in the CD?

Didn't anyone go over to Dover during the Columbia disaster? Perhaps the media ban did not apply to NASA?

*putting on my tinfoil hat*
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:29 PM
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29. The remains of the Columbia astronauts were sent to Dover
The remains of all 7 astronauts were found in the same general area near Hemphill, Texas, on the day following the breakup of the space shuttle Columbia. The remains were sent to Dover Air Force base.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14085
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:21 PM
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28. SOME of the pictures were of the Columbia astronauts
The vast majority of the photos were of military victims. They Columbia victim photos got mixed in somehow.
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