Air America Radio Needs Zoloft

[tridim]

Corey Deitz

One of the best things Al Franken ever did was only sign a one-year contract with Air America Radio. At the rate things are going, he’ll probably want to bail when those 365 days are up.

The upstart network is receiving predominantly bad reviews from Radio columnists and other journalists all across the country. (Just do a search at Google News to see what I mean.)

Within its first two weeks, Air America Radio managed to lose its Los Angeles and Chicago affiliates over what is alleged to have been a “bounced” check. An injunction forced the Chicago outlet, WNTD, to resume airing the network but Air America went dark on KBLA in L.A. and now, on April 30, Air America will cease to be heard on WNTD.

To reach an audience, Air America Radio must rent time from radio stations. It’s not like stations are knocking on its door begging to run their programming. Most talk stations around the country already have their pick of proven, successful, money-making syndicated hosts and shows. So, just from an economic standpoint, anything new and unproven is a hard sell.

More RW lies at: http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa042304a.htm

How long can these hacks get away with this crap?

Feel free to contact this idiot at, http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=radio&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coreyandjayshow.com , home of his RW "morning zoo" show.

[still_one]

1. Air America will succeed because it fills a desperate need

It won't matter what the critics say

[Toucano]

2. It think Franken gets better every day! n/t

[Malva Zebrina]

3. Franken may bail

that he is considering that he may want to bail after a year is revealing.

If he is not getting what he needs from it, he will bail

Franken is more concerned about promoting himself rather than promoting the liberal agenda.

That is fine, of course. AFter having listened since it began, I can honestly say that 'Franken has good guests for interviews, but, disappoints in his committments to the liberal agenda.

He is somewhere in the middle and it seems to me interested more in promoting himself rather than the "cause"

I have more respect for Randi-brutal , honest and fearless.

[bagnana]

5. Franken wants Bush out of office.

That is his goal -- that is the goal of a lot of Democrats. That is why he has a one year contract, and they will see what happens after that. He is a moderate liberal. Fine. There is room in our party for other voices, ISN'T THERE??? Jesus. Sometimes I think the dems are becoming like the Repubs -- either you are a "true believer" or you are crap. Franken is a well known name who wrote a funny and famous book, and is a moderate spokesperson trying to convince as many people as possible to vote against Bush.

[BigDaddyLove]

9. Interesting point about being a 'true believer' or nothing.............

I've noticed the attitude with some dismay myself.

Air America is a wonderful, wonderful gift to us......and yet people still complain that it isn't (insert pet criticism here) enough.

[Malva Zebrina]

41. Be glad there are people with an opinion that does not match your

willingness to accept everything no matter what.

Question everything.

It is interesting how this conversation morphed from me stating my opinion about Al Franken, to the sureness that I am trying to destroy the "wonderful gift" we have been given, namely Air America, in some devious way and am an ingrate.

The process here is interesting. No original, additional or personal observations/feelings or thoughts offered about Franken--only a attack on another poster done under the safe blanket of a previous poster's similar thoughts.

See how it works?

[BigDaddyLove]

47. Yeah, I see how it works...........

I could care less about what YOU specifically said about Franken (which I disagree with for the record), I was merely responding to what someone said, and that I too noticed what he/she noticed.

I'm sorry you felt like I was attacking you and your opinion via another poster; in the future I'll be sure to pay more direct attention to what you say so that when I 'attack' you I can do it directly....if I wanted to challenge what you said, I would have, but in this case I wasn't talking to you.

Clear?

[Malva Zebrina]

51. and I could care less how you choose to attack from behind another

And that is my point.

One person injects a criticism aimed at another, and jumps on the opinion of another in order to get their digs in on the coatails of the other. It is safer that way for some people who may be dependant.

It's like, you know,hen house gossip-


It subjects one poster to two attacks, with one person reserving the right to claim they were not attacking the same person, but were merely replying to the other guy.

The process is amusing.

[BigDaddyLove]

58. The process you are describing may well in fact exist...........

only that my post in reply to someone else (not you) had nothing to do with you....if I wanted to attack you I would have done so directly; I didn't, and I didn't.

Take the paranoia and go do something constructive with it (like baking cookies or something), rather than describing my 'hidden' motives to me; you've tried twice now, and neither time has worked.

[mountainvue]

54. Actually

Franken has written several funny and famous smash bestsellers. In the last seven days, Ariana Huffington, Walter Cronkite and Robert Kennedy have been among his guests. He plays The Dead as his background music and his bits are funny. How much more liberal and on "our side" does it need to get? Come on people. Do you all know that Michael Powell and the FCC are now trying to "clean up" cable television? Pretty soon we'll end up having to get our real news and entertainment via short wave radio and smoke signals.

[bpilgrim]

56. thank GORE he 'INVENTED' the INTERNET ;-)

and skinner and crew for the DU :evilgrin:

peace

[Bread and Circus]

12. I didn't know we had an "agenda" - frankly, that kind of talk

spooks me.

I am a liberal. I am an individualist. We don't need to have
"groupthink". It's too fucking cultish.

[chefgirl]

20. Congratulations

>>Franken is more concerned about promoting himself rather than promoting the liberal agenda.

That is fine, of course. AFter having listened since it began, I can honestly say that 'Franken has good guests for interviews, but, disappoints in his committments to the liberal agenda.<<

Well, you've certainly learned all the important RW talking points about AirAmerica, haven't you??
Ahem...


-chef-

[Malva Zebrina]

42. Did you have something postive to say besides

an attack?
Any orginal thoughts to offer about Franken, Rhodes, or unfiltered?

I have listened to the broadcasts virtually non stop since it began

Perhaps you can whip up some support elsewhere, or stir up some trouble on the freeper boards, instead of on this forum where people do have a right to express an opinion even though it is not identical to yours, whatever yours is--in your haste to attack another post you seem to have forgotten to post your opinion.

[chefgirl]

52. Thats exactly what I did

I expressed precisely what my opinion is regarding your comments. I really didn't think I was being obtuse, but, hey, thanks for the lesson in comportment. :eyes:

-chef-

[Selwynn]

30. You're misrepresenting facts.

The piece, from a RW questionable site anyway, speculates that based on the authors opinion of how bad AA is, Al might WANT TO consider bailing.

Don't put words in people's mouths.

[xultar]

32. Sounds like something I read on Drudge last week n/t

[ikojo]

43. Franken admits he is more a DLC style Democrat

and not as liberal as people on this board.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2003_10/002456.php

Angry liberal writers Paul Krugman and Al Franken? Much closer to Bill Clinton and the DLC than to the left wing of the party. Angry liberal candidate Howard Dean? As many commentators have pointed out, his policy positions are pretty centrist. Angry liberal bloggers Atrios and, um, me? In both cases, rhetoric aside, our underlying positions are not wildly liberal.

[robbedvoter]

45. But Krugman, Conason et al were his guests

I like the show - a good frame for a wide range of views. he is personally likeable and many times funny. I don't have to agree with him all the time to like him. Sometimes he makes me mad - and I go write it in his blog. But I still listen - this is a good 'mad" - unlike the times I used to watch "mainstream media" -

[SoCalDem]

59. Franken may actually run for the senate from Minnesota

I heard him say this on a talk show (Letterman??) and he sounded serious..

Minnesota could sure do a lot worse..

[physioex]

4. I listen to Randi Daily...

I cant listen to Franken cuz Im on the west coast and its a bit early for me. I would if I could.

[Sterling]

6. AAR is great. Everyone I know is happy it's on.

I am sure the RW dominated AM radio industry will pan AAR but like the other poster says it fills a need.

Honestly i think the quality of AAR shows in general are great. Technicall glitches have been over shadowed by the refreshing qquality of the dialouge and wit of the fine hosts in all time slots.

Only a serious jack ass would fail to see the value of AAR..

[YankeeFan]

13. I'm Not

I can't get the Network from where I live. But I recently received in the mail a tape of the show from a friend who can. So I took it into work and played it during a slow period.
When the tape was finished I had a Flashback to when I was in Elementary School. It was in November 1964. I was in the 4th grade at the time. The Presidential Election was held the previous day, and one of the most *incompetent Democrats of the 20th century was elected. We listened to a radio the teacher had brought in for the occasion. The reception was horrible. Plus we were somewhat noisy when she left the room for a reason I no longer remember. Afterwords she scolded us when she came back in.
In a nutshell, from what I can remember, she asked the class what we heard over the radio. As a whole the class said that we couldn't hear anything over the static. And she didn't buy it. She (I think) said that if we weren't so noisy we could have heard something over the radio. So one by one we had to stand up and tell her what we heard. For the most part somebody said that they heard that Johnson was elected President. A couple here and there said something else. When my turn came I said I heard that that Johnson was elected President of the United States.
In other words I lied like a Republican. All I heard that morning was static.
When I listened to the tape of Air America, I didn't hear a single thing. I can't remember who was on, what was discussed, whether Bush should be impeached or given the Congressional Medal of Honor. I couldn't even tell who was sponsors were or when or how many commercials they had.
Complete Nothing!
When I got home I listened carefully to the start again. Yes, it was Air America. But don't ask me anything else about it! I ....
It's doomed.

*Johnson's Micromanagement of the Viet Nam war produced thousands of unnecessary casualties. The Bush Leaguer here is at least doing the right thing. Tell the military what to do and get out of their way. Whether the wars were/are right or wrong is a subject for another Thread.

[rfkrocks]

Bush is doing the right thing in Iraq?

Letting rumsfeld run the pentagon is disaster and we are paying for it everyday with blood and treasure-

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

26. You're rambling.

[Puglover]

36. Boy, I not at all sure of the point of your post but

I hope the last paragraph is meant as a joke.

[Malva Zebrina]

44. No one has questioned the value of AA have they?

See how it works?

[Rex]

7. Well Corey Nobody sounds pretty jealous to me.

AAR will only grow as more people find out about it.

[NewDemOrder]

8. Hate is not the best way to unseat someone

Hate radio is what caused the OKC bombing and Waco. We should not emulate that. We need a better plan. I don't know the best way.

[BigDaddyLove]

10. To which hate are you referring?

If it's the hate that most of us feel for this administration then I disagree; I hate them, Air America reflects my hatred, and it makes me happy.

[rfkrocks]

14. Hate radio and waco?

I have no idea what that means

[arcane1]

24. you're not the only one..

all I've heard on Air America is the truth

some call it hate because they can't handle the truth

[Robbien]

31. You mean the hate that Limbaugh spews? That is what the rabid right does.

AirAmerica not spew hate based on lies and bigotry. Try turning your dial to the left and listen.

[LittleApple81]

11. What are they talking about? I like the combination of programs

they have. I walk around my house with my headphones on (which I bought to be able to listen to them through net streaming). And I know I am not alone.

[robbedvoter]

15. Air America started with a blast - record streamings the first day and

expanded ever since - more stations coming. Like Dietz, wingnut media is been after them from day one - like the Bush/RNC/lazio donor Liu who is creating trouble in LA. It just goes to show how "free market" takes care of things.
I too go around with my headphones and love most of the shows.
I like Franken - even if I agree only 75% times with him. I love Morning Sedition and Unfiltered and Randi is indeed a goddess.
By the time Garofalo comes on I am saturated - plus, she is a bit too preachy for my taste (although I agree with her 95% of the times)
But I listen to most of it and NEVER watch news on TV anymore! :-)

[KharmaTrain]

16. I Know Corey Dietz...He's No Wingnut

He's calling it as he's hearing it on a blog primarily frequented by radio professionals.

There's nothing I saw in his information that was distorted or wrong and he's just explaining how difficult things have and will be for this network.

Franken is no radio personality and this is all Dietz is pointing out. It's like having a real estate agent try to do lawyering...he's not used to the medium and it sounds it. And there is a concern as to how long his interest holds.

And truth is Air America is finding it very tough going finding affiliates...and even brokers who will sell them airtime. It's more the network not being a proven comodity than anything political. Would you take a chance with your business with a new upstart start-up?

This guy's been screwed over by the corporates and is anything but political. Instead of flaming the messenger, maybe you should start supporting Air America sponsors so they can keep buying airtime and staying afloat.

[robbedvoter]

17. Yup. There's no market for liberal views. The media is liberal.(why?)

The "bounced check' BS from Drudge. No bias here, all truth.
Thank you for showing me the light. I will turn it off now and watch CNN.

[KharmaTrain]

27. It's Still Not Sure About That Check...

Neither you nor I know what went on in the court room, but assume the issue surrounding the L.A. station revolved around a check that somehow, somewhere got an NSF stamp on it...and that the network wasn't forced back on that station as it was in Chicago. Take that for what it's worth.

Drudge and all these sleeze-merchants ignore the LARGE liberal radio market that exists...all except O'Reilly...it's NPR. Argue as you will, but NPR still provides the best and most balanced news coverage and talk shows nationally. Forget Cokie & Bob...there's Tavis Smiley and Ray Suarez who are excelent interviewers. Plus many local NPR stations have their own talk and opinion shows.

What some people want is a slash-and-burn liberal network...the anti-EIB and Air America is that. It's red meat for those who can't get enough * hate and tin foil conspiracies. But it's purely entertainment...not information.

I personally wish Air America nothing but success and that they survive this very difficult incubator period. They're climbing a very, very, very steep hill.

Face it, the legal problems have been an embarassment and it appears the network will be without stations in 2 of the 3 largest markets and unless those San Francisco stations click on soon, they won't have another in the Top 10. Plus, Minneapolis is supposed to be doing some format change as well, so a new affiliate has to be found there. As I say, it's not easy.

[robbedvoter]

37. Uh, the judge bought it. I guess you're not sure about Whitewater either

If you refuse to give up the wingnuts lies about us, suit yourself.
I take a court decision as a resolution.
The fact that Ted Olson's old law firm defended the guy whose word you trust so much wighs in the balance too.

[tridim]

18. His radio show is typically wingnut

according to his own website http://www.coreyandjayshow.com

Here are two examples from his site:

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And one of many pics:

[robbedvoter]

21. Awww! A Clinton hater doesn't like AAR! Alert the media!

[KharmaTrain]

22. And???

David Letterman and John Stewart do Clinton jokes. So?

Clinton sex stuff was from '99...sheesh, that stuff was everywhere at the time.

There are far worse wingnuts on the air.

The other night I was scanning the dial and heard some clown who calls himself the "Truckin' Bozo" go off for 15 minutes praising * and calling Kerry a traitor. That's someone you should be going after.

[robbedvoter]

38. "There are far worse wingnuts on the air" - glad you have standards

I don't dount your standards. I am sure I'll never be able to point out the worst. There's always one outdoing it. But, whi , oh, why, are you preaching the word of a so-so wingnut about Air America?

[JanMichael]

28. I don't know Corey, nor do I care to know him. But, there's always a "But"

...I've argued since day one that celebrity talk-show hosts are a risk and the if AA really wanted to succeed past November they'd do two things.

One: Buy stations. I know they're "expensive" but I also know that a certain radio station in Naples, Fl (10,000 watt/AM) was on the market for a million bucks this last autumn, I also know that paying for air time accumulates much faster cash wise. Buy, buy, BUY! No, rent, rent, RENT!

Two: Get talk radio "Pros" on arond the celebs, Randi is not enough. Get Malloy, get Guy James (I'll qulify this by noting that I was the co-host of his sho for almost a year). Why? The best "Liberal" talk shows are the ones that are caller heavy. Conflict is GOOD. Smacking down ditto-heads live is GOOD. Skits are cute.

[KharmaTrain]

35. You're On The Right Path...

In the late 80's WLUP-AM in Chicago mixed personality with comedy and radio pros and created some of the greatest entertainment radio ever heard. A little stupid, but not the sexploitation we hear today and a little political but never spiteful.

The "radio people" I've heard are great for the local NPR station, but not for the high tempo world of "mainstream" (used very loosely here) talk radio. You hit on a great point that too much information is as bad as too much. I get the feeling some AA hosts feel the listener knows very little...and it sounds condescending at times...not quite the stuff that invites curious listeners.

While it's the bain of common sense, making AA far more caller-driven would be a great idea at this point. It's great to hear the "experts", but isn't that what we get on the tube? One big element to the success of hate radio is Joe Knuckledrag can always tune in and hear another Joe Knuckledrag...a sense of community, and when that Joe Six Pack #2 is as pissed off as he is, and if not more, it creates a bond. Wonder how hate radio works? Try this barometer.

Also, a note to the talent: please keep bitching about the producers, board-ops and affiliates down. I've heard a lot of it in recent days. Any technical problem turns into another black helicopter or the reason things are bad...get used to the concept this is LIVE radio...there are no re-dos or second chances.

AA is playing against a clock here, and buying stations would be nice but the priority right now has to be reaching "ears"...and spending your money and resources in doing that. Owning a station means lots of extra expenses (electricity, property taxes, tons of government forms, inspections, et al) that are really best used in the purchase of airtime in large markets where a measured audience can be built.

There are many options available for AA, but again, it's hoping lots of things line up in just the right place at the right time and so far it's not coming close...sad to say.

[robbedvoter]

40. Ah, the good ol' days... when I was young, we didn't have liberal radio

We used to listen to our air conditioners - and we LIKED IT!

[Beacho]

19. What the?

"The Bush Leaguer here is at least doing the right thing. Tell the military what to do and get out of their way."


That was a joke, right?

[Must_B_Free]

23. this is a curious statement

"To reach an audience, Air America Radio must rent time from radio stations. It’s not like stations are knocking on its door begging to run their programming."

It begs one to wonder: If the station admittedly has to rent time, why would one expect stations to be knocking on their door begging to run their programming?

We know the criticisms here have been debunked. One of the worst reviews admittedly didn't even listen to the station before panning them. Also the fact that the station got an injunction supports it's contention that it purposefully cancelled the check.

[robbedvoter]

25. There's a rating system at the end - show him what we thing of his

"unbiased" views. Just read the entire swill - Franken and Garofalo do not have Liddy's charisma and they have to much of an agenda to entertain.

[Downtown Hound]

29. Air America hasn't even been on for a month...

Anyone making predictions about their demise, whether liberal or conservative, is jumping the gun big time. They had over two million streams on the first day, and Randi said that after the L.A. and Chicago fiasco at one point they had over six million streams. That's internet listeners alone. That's not counting the people who listen over the air. Those would be impressive numbers for an organization that had been on for years. They're phenomenal for a start-up venture.

Right-wingers can pretend they're experts on this issue like they do every other one. As usual, they're wrong. Liberals need to relax. It hasn't even been a month people. It's a little early to say that it doesn't have a chance.

[Cocoa]

33. these reviews all sound the same

[icymist]

34. Bring back Mike Malloy.

I miss Mike Malloy. He has a real radio personality.

[robbedvoter]

39. About those "professionals" - a DU-er's experiment

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1465300#

[LTR]

46. I thought it was a mostly fair article

Granted, AAR is not bad, IMO. Having worked in the industry at one time, I still often read radio sites and boards. Much of what has been written has not been kind. Corey Dietz's article seems relatively fair.

Granted, they have grown pretty fast as far as dedicated listeners, and there are people (especially here) that absolutely love it. But it certainly isn't perfect.

AAR made some mistakes from the planning stages. They seem to be too focused on bringing in big names from other mediums, and not focused enough on bringing in people with radio track records (save for Randi Rhodes). Radio is a tough business, particularly talk radio. Not everyone can talk for three hours and make it entertaining.

As much as we like the idea of having an actual talk network geared toward our side, some of the shows are really not that entertaining, IMO. Franken is a smart guy, and is terrific as an author, comedy writer, talk show guest and actor. But for three hours each day, he is pretty dull and long-winded. He seems to forget when he's doing interviews that there are people that are actually listening. He needs to work on his timing and his rapport with his audience. The pace needs serious picking up.

The two shows that proceed his are nothing really exciting. Same format with host, co-host, and veteran radio person. No dynamic personalities there.

Randi gets it. Signing her was one of the best decisions AAR made. She is an experienced professional, does the show alone, and knows how to make a show entertaining.

Janeane Garofalo and Sam Seder's evening show is one of the few surprises on AAR. It's actually a good show with nice pacing and good banter. But they could also use a little more seasoning.

I actually like what Sirius is starting to do on its Sirius Left channel more. After IE America folded, they were forced to really take a look at what they were doing there. Just last week, they revamped their schedule. First, longtime San Francisco morning legend Alex Bennett was brought in for an exclusive show. Very good move. This guy's been in the business for four decades, and knows how to keep people listening. He's confident enough to not only encourage callers who disagree with him, but he begs them to call. He utilizes humor, information, opinion and great guests in a very listener-friendly show format. Here's some examples of his work from the past and the present:

http://www.radiofreejack.com

Lynn Samuels' show was extended to weekdays. And the Young Turks are holding down the afternoons/evenings. They added Ed Shultz and Alan Colmes' successful syndicated shows. Say what you want about Colmes, but he's been in the business for a long time, and he does a pretty decent radio show. Too bad he sucks on TV.

Add Thom Hartman to the mix, and they've got the nucleus of a pretty good station. They just need to dump Doug Stephans and maybe add Malloy or somebody.

And that's what AAR should do as well. They seem to be shying away from credible commercial radio people and more toward celebrities and public radio types. This is a recipe for disaster. Why aren't they trying out guys like Malloy, Werbe, Nancy Skinner and others at least on weekend shifts? They need to develop a solid farm league for when the current lineup decides they are bored with playing radio.

I do like AAR's idea of leasing time on stations, which would probably make most radio people think I'm insane. Talk radio is a very crowded market, filled with shows nobody has ever heard of duking it out for air time. Syndicating individual shows would be greeted in the industry with the sound of crickets. This way could work.

But first, AAR needs to think about what they want to accomplish. It seems their mission statement is influencing the election. What they really need to concentrate on first and foremost is entertainment. Being entertaining is the only thing that will keep people listening. Propaganda won't. Rush realizes that entertainment is key, and like him or not, he is good at what he does, namely nasty drug-enduced pomposity. But people listen, right?

AAR needs a good on-air game plan, and needs to make it must-listen-to radio, for the entertainment value, and not just for the message. Radio shows are not about politics (contrary to what many of you may think) but they are about entertainment.

[LTR]

48. Corey responds to his email

http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa042404a.htm

Yesterday, I wrote an opinion piece on Air America Radio. I expressed how I felt based on my listening and the recent history of this newly-founded endeavor.

Since then, I have received more than my usual amount of email - mostly negative comments - from people who did not like my opinion.

Well, I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me. But, some seem to think only their opinion has merit and would prefer the arena of discussion be limited to only the thoughts they want to hear.

Here are some highlights from those emails, beginning with one positive one that sets the tone for the rest:

"...thought it was great...... I doubt that it will last more than a few months, after which those involved will have some painful memories that need repressing. Just to warn you though, they posted a link to your article on the Democratic Underground website, and now plan to bombard you with negative e-mail. So expect a lot of vitriolic hatred coming your way..." - Bryan

(snip)

"Your article about Air America contains more misinformation than a George Bush news conference. Don't you reactionaries ever bother to check your facts before publishing?" - Stephen

See that? Express an opinion and now I’m a "reactionary". All the facts in my article have also been reported by scores of mainstream sources and industry trade papers. Did we all get the same facts wrong? Or is it just easier to accuse someone of "getting the facts wrong" when you just don’t like what the facts are?

[robbedvoter]

49. "All the facts have been reported by scores of mainstream sources"

That would be "the echo chamber defense". let's see: Drudge spews some bile from a W supporter (Liu) determined to undermine AAR. No response from AAR, of course. CNN, a few other hacks geed at the Drudge trough.
AAR states its case - AND WINS - in court. Associated press and a few other mainstream media outlets report the check situation , while Liu is unavailable for comments". yet, poor maligned Corey choses his sources only from the Drudge inspired, day one of the story.
And I am supposed to consider him "fair"? Boo-hoo-hoo!
Some of you have been bruised from too much "mainstream media' exposure. You expect some beating over the head to feel safe.

[LTR]

50. He did put 'bounced' in quotes

In his defense.

Nonetheless, an ugly situation with Liu that could have been handled better. On both sides.

[MoonRiver]

53. And just why do you think all those "negative" ratings and shut-downs

are occurring? It's because corporate powers that be are THREATENED by a radio station that provides Americans with the TRUTH. I adore Air America and Al Franken. I have nothing else on my satellite radio and stream it much of the time I'm on the puter. I would be devastated were it to fail. But if that happens it won't be because listeners don't overwhelmingly want the station. It will be because another rightwing corporate coup takes it down. We're almost on a level with Pravda. Kill AA and we're there.

[porkrind]

55. I love AA

They are doing good work, trying to promote the leftist agenda. So sorry (not) these "hacks" are not as good as the RW radio dipshits. Who gives a shit what radio industry pundits say? The final test will be if they expand or not. Personally, I listen to them and like them all. Randi is my favorite (*sigh*).

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. Couldn't have said it better!

:clap: