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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:25 PM
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NYTimes letters on Kerry's military records today... BRAVO!!!!
they made my day. This one in particular:

Now that both President Bush and Senator John Kerry have released their military service records, let us finish the job and carefully compare the records of these two veterans: battle to battle, injury to injury, medal to medal, duty location to duty location, and days reported for duty to days reported for duty (news article, April 22).

DORIAN DE WIND
Austin, Tex., April 22, 2004
(The writer was a major in the Air Force.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/23/opinion/L23KERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:28 PM
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1. Golf Clap Anybody
How about fireworks.
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PeteC Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:32 PM
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2. More letters
It would be great if the NYT did a comparison. Silver Star vs Yellow Belly? Heroism vs cowardice would be a great title too.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:33 PM
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3. Woo Hoo!
Shout out to the NY Times readers who are doing the journalists' job for them! These are the kinds of op-ed pieces we should be reading by mainstream journalists, if they weren't such store-bought whores.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:34 PM
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4. heheh....wonderful.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:31 PM
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5. Awesome!!
Glad to see that in such a big-circ paper!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:43 PM
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6. made my day.
Really hit hard.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:58 PM
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7. Now THAT is great news. I'm guessing none of these were
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 11:16 PM by calimary
generated by us? Always gratifying to hear that it's coming from elsewhere, too - not JUST us. Although a letter from anybody here would be an eloquent statement as well.

Want proof that you're not alone in your thinking? This is it.

If they've published several pro-Kerry/anti-bush letters, it's a certainty that these are merely representative of multiples more. Like when we're storming CNN - if WE'RE seeing the slant and complaining about it, it's certain that many multiples of others share that view. DON'T EVER THINK YOU'RE ALONE IN THIS!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:11 PM
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8. This is true. They are very representative of collective opinion
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 11:11 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
Sometime last year the NYTimes "letters editor" wrote a piece describing how they select what to print. They carefully select the best they can find and also try to represent the balance of the views being expressed- for example, if an issue is closely debated from two opposing sides they will publish an equal number from both opposing views. While if an issue has a preponderance of opinion on one side, then they will weight the number of letters expressing that view to accurately reflect that fact.

I try and read their letters every day. It is IMHO the most intelligent and informed source of news and commentary today. The views expressed are always poignant and credible.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:20 PM
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9. Okay, question:
I don't like all the questions they ask you to subscribe, so I don't subscribe. What was the ratio? How many letters did they run on this subject? For example, last time I noted that in a recent L.A. Times Sunday paper, it was 5 - 1 against bush. And from what I, too, understand, they run a sampling that's compiled in an attempt to echo how many people wrote in for which side of the issue. And if they get only anti-bush letters, that's the only pool available from which to make selections.

Thanks!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:32 PM
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10. 6 for 6 in favor of Kerry
You really should subscribe, but.... Here 'ya go: (shhhhhhh)

Re "Navy Records Show Positive Marks for Kerry" (news article, April 22):

So John Kerry works on a swift boat in Vietnam. He is wounded three times. He wins multiple medals. Then, decades later, somebody tries to trivialize his wounds, and that has credibility?

Working a swift boat was one of the most dangerous jobs going back then. We used to think guys deserved Silver Stars simply for getting on board. And Mr. Kerry did it repeatedly, and took hits that, if a few inches higher, could have blinded him or taken out his chest.

The Navy decides, on three occasions, to award Mr. Kerry a Purple Heart. And now it is discussed as if he had the audacity to accept them?

Purple Hearts, Bronze Stars and Silver Stars were not something we applied for in Vietnam. They were something somebody else gave to us. We had no voice in the matter. And when we received them, it was with a sense of relief — and often remorse — that we, unlike our brothers, were still alive.

To the Bush campaign: Pick a better fight.

BOB SICHTA
Miami, April 22, 2004

To the Editor:

The release of Senator John Kerry's military records (news article, April 22) brings an object lesson for President Bush's supporters: Be careful what you wish for. The nastiness and innuendo of the right-wing talk shows have resulted in a comparison that does not make Mr. Bush look good.

SARAH MEDVITZ
Orlando, Fla., April 22, 2004

snip...

To the Editor:

One of the great pastimes of American politics is the call for disclosures of one kind or another. They have become an obsession with us ("Disclosure by the Kerrys," editorial, April 22). Yet disclosures tell us very little and likely keep a lot of good people from running for office.

Senator John Kerry and every other candidate should abide by the law, but should not be required to go beyond it. Most Americans will not pore over the tax returns, medical records, school records and whatever else the disclosure-mongers want disclosed. In fact, the exercise is typically a distraction from the issues of the day.

Such disclosures rarely bring to light the real conflicts that a candidate may have or, more important, those that a candidate once in office will seek to exploit.

Mr. Kerry realizes what every candidate realizes: the call for disclosure is an invitation for the call for further disclosure and an opportunity for an opponent to distort what is disclosed. It is politics cloaked in a false ethical cloth.

BRUCE NEUMAN
East Hampton, N.Y., April 22, 2004

To the Editor:

You are wrong to insist that Teresa Heinz Kerry release her personal tax information (editorial, April 22). Mrs. Heinz Kerry has the right to her privacy because she is not a candidate. It has been decades since the feminist movement first brought forth the idea that husbands and wives are separate entities and entitled to rights and privileges of their own.

We know Mrs. Heinz Kerry is very, very rich — a lot of us use ketchup — so what would the actual figures concerning her wealth tell us about the candidacy of either Mr. Kerry or President Bush?

STEPHANIE NICHOLAS ACQUADRO
Westfield, N.J., April 22, 2004

To the Editor:

Although I believe that it was right that Senator John Kerry disclosed his exemplary military record to the public, I believe that Teresa Heinz Kerry is entitled to the same degree of confidentiality as other Americans, subject to certain legal disclosure requirements (editorial, April 22).

Mr. Kerry should insist that his wife's rights be protected. His opposition wants to use the details of Mrs. Heinz Kerry's wealth in its television attack ads, diverting the public's attention from bona fide issues. The senator is not obligated to assist the Republican attack machine at the expense of his wife's privacy rights.

ASHER FRIED
Croton-on-Hudson, N.Y., April 22, 2004
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:40 PM
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11. Hugs! Thanks!
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 11:41 PM by calimary
And from a mixed bag of places in three states, counting the Texas letter at the top of the thread. Texas, even! Tee hee!

That is intriguing, too. It must signify that they didn't get any letters that day from people sniping at the Kerrys on this issue. Well, how 'bout that?

Merci beaucoup encore!

I hesitate to sign up because all of a sudden they want these personal details from me and want to send me email shopping stuff. I'm already avalanched with that stuff, just as is. Oh well...

Thanks again!
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GoBucksBeatBush Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:02 AM
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12. avoid registering...www.bugmenot.com
go to bugmenot.com and type in the website to which you want access...it will give you several options to use as your username and email address...some of them rather clever, i must say. note that there may not be a registry for your particular website, but the n.y. whore times, the l.a. times, other bigger papers are definately covered.



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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:09 AM
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13. Good heavens, but I love DU! Thanks for this, too!
You can always get answers here.

Hugs!
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Lasira Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:20 AM
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14. bugmenot - awesome!
thanks!
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