What % of DUer's think Al-Quada had nothing to do with 9/11?

[notbush]

I don't really want to hear the arguments one way or the other.Rather I would like to hear your quess as to what % of posters have a strong feeling one way or the other.
Until recently , I thought the people believing Al-Quada had nothing to do with 9/11 was rather small. After some recent posts, I am starting to question my own thinking.

[not systems]

1. What and who is Al-Quada?

Can someone point me to some hard evidence that such a thing exists?

[DustMolecule]

2. Well, imho, I think a BETTER question would be.....

Who/what is Al-Queida? Who are they? Where do 'they' come from? What is their source of funding? What are their goals?

At this time, the public knows of no clear or correct answer to those questions.

In reality, it doesn't matter what we THINK they are, who/what are they REALLY???

[notbush]

3. you're not responding to my question

I get a feel where the 2 posters stand ...but, is this a view held by most, many, or few here.

[RafterMan]

15. How is dustmolecule

(or anyone) supposed to speak for all DUers?

If you want that question answered, run a poll. My guess? Not as many as it seems.

[lapfog_1]

4. OK

They exist... because we created them.

They DO hate the US... and they caused 9/11.

However, while evil, they are often transparent and inept, which
makes it RELATIVELY easy to stop their plots.

We (Bushco) KNEW about 9/11 (possibly down to the exact date), and
LIHOP.

The Neocons need them to continue to war on terror... which is really
an excuse to advance their real agenda, which is an imperialist US
for the 21st century (PNAC).

Bushco may have (not proved to me) actually contracted out 9/11 to
Bin Laden.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

5. "Al Queda" did it, but...

"Al Qaeda" is a CIA/Bush Cabal created false-flag operation.

So while it IS correct to say "Al Qaeda" did it, it s MORE correct to say the Bush Cabal ordered "Al Qaeda" to do it.

[Gore1FL]

6. I can't imagine many

If the blame was placed falsely, one would think that it would have been placed on Iraq tro begin with, thus eliminating the need to fake connections between Al Qeada and Iraq.

Methinks this is a non-starter.

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[Wonk]

8. Yeah?

http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/project.jsp?project=911_project
Including tons of links to what you consider reputable sources, btw.

[leftistagitator]

13. You're voting Nader because

you don't want to be associated with the people who believe in MIHOP or LIHOP? Umm, I'd wager Nader's Party, whatever it is now, has far more people percentage wise who believe in one of those two theories than the Democratic Party. Kerry has never even hinted at anything worse than incompetence at play between * and 9/11, niether has Kucinich or Dean.

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Al Qaeda exists.

We have proof there are training camps, for one thing. For another, there was evidence of "chatter" before 9/11, and it all points to bin Laden.

What I suspect is bothersome to some DUers on this thread is that they can't grasp the notion that these terrorists aren't tied to ONE nationality or ONE leader. They're not. At one time we might have said that the thing that ties them together is their religion: Muslim. But, I suspect that isn't true anymore. Al Qaeda, after George Bush II, is any group from the Middle East/Northern Africa that hates the U.S. and is willing to die to do us harm.

[dpibel]

11. Do I understand you correctly?

You appear to be conflating "terrorist" with "Al Qaeda." Do I have that correct?

So in your cosmology, all terrorist activity is properly ascribed to Al Qaeda, since they are one and the same? Or did I get that wrong?

It is certainly true that the Fierce Warrior Chieftain is making enemies and recruiting terrorists at a world-record pace. It just seems to me that we help the little guy out if we agree to call them all members of the supreme evil, Al Qaeda.

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. I think you're getting caught up in a pissing match.

A group can call itself whatever it wants to call itself for all I care. I wouldn't be surprised if disjointed groups begin to see themselves as Al Qaeda just because we have defined them as enemies of this country and we have shown that we don't know how to fight them. Under this administration, we've proven that we can't stay focused on the target. So, our military's resource is thinning out. They have us shooting at shadows and we're hitting women and children.

Whether you call them terrorists or Al Qaeda is a pissing match. They both serve the same purpose. That's what Madelaine Albright was concerned about at those hearings. Call them Al Qaeda, call them terrorists. They're coming and we need to be prepared.

[JCMach1]

10. That was my first thread after the WTC on 9/11

I am still not convinced...

[Don Claybrook]

12. al Q exists, but they're nothing like you think they are

Their parameters have been blown up way out of proportion, since we need a Big Bad Guy as justification for spending billions and trillions on defense pork.

And al Qaeda may well have been involved with September 11, but no one has ever provided a shred of proof (and no, our trustworthy government saying there was "chatter" isn't proof of anything beyond a facility in the use of new buzz words).

It's odd that I can never get any of the people who claim to know al Qaeda did 9/11 to offer any proof of that claim.

Best guess: they probably helped to execute the plan, but providing proof would also implicate some very powerful people in this country. You may not wish to hear arguments one way or another, but if I only wanted to answer yes/no questions, I'd be too much of a simpleton to post here.

[markomalley]

14. A: Not enough of them

There are too many racists on this board who believe that peaceful muslims would have something to do with this, when the evidence points to a direct terrorist attack on our own soil by either US military personnel or paid surrogates.

[Kahuna]

17. If you had wanted a head count you should have posted a poll.

Not too hard to do.