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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 07:46 AM
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"MURDER BY NUMBERS" Flash Movie (Re: Troop Coffins) by Symbolman
I just created this over the past few days.. I think it's one of my best, but I always say that :)

I call it, "MURDER BY NUMBERS" -it's based on the song by The Police..

This time they've gone TOO FUCKING FAR.. these troops BELONG to the AMERICAN PEOPLE and their families, they are NOT Bush's personal little ARMY GUYS..

Here's the url if you want to have a look, and pass it on to your neighbors..

Turn up those speakers!

this takes BUSH to TASK. AND his Old Man, the other Butcher of Bagdad.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/murderby.html

Bring them HOME NOW, before they have to come home in a box.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:00 AM
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1. Nice job.
This just might be your best work.

Critique time though. Some of the text moves too fast. There were three or four places where the text faded before I could read it, and it makes it difficult to process it and the images at the same time.

Guess I'll jsut have to watch it 5 or 6 times to get it all.

Thanks for the work. I know I appreciate your talent.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:04 AM
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2. Thanks
I may just have to put two replay buttons in the next flash to make everyone happy :)

I know I get a little MTV'ish at times, but they don't offer a replay button do they? well, there IS TIVO, I keep forgetting..

The Message gets through tho, eh?

please keep this kicked while I get some sleep? :)

thanks

I'd like for a LOT Of people to see this one, I think it's important
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hellboy Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:12 AM
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3. Terrific. Poignant images with great soundtrack. I give it a 10.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:14 AM
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4. Yes, slow it down a bit
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 08:19 AM by rocknation
By the way, Trumad put up this screen capture of the flag-draped strecher in from the Bush campaign commercial. Would make for a nice split screen with one of the Dover pics, I think.



:headbang:
rocknation
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:23 AM
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8. The firemen
with the "party hats" as the FireChief said in the article..:)

this will work nicely.. I should put this one in my flash..

again, thanks!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:10 AM
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22. Agree with you on the slow down a tad...
All of these by Symbolman are nothing short of perfection. But...slow down the page changes just a bit so the info can be read and absorbed.

David
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:11 AM
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24. Excellent,perfection,genius---everyone of these are the same caliber
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 10:12 AM by OneTwentyoFive
Keep up the great work Symbolman!

How I'd love to see ANY of these running on a TV spot....

David
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:55 PM
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39. Me too
so far we got ARMY OF ONE on cable..

love to get the 911 Bush Knew- an American Requiem on as a 30sec spot..

it would slay them politically.

thanks for the comments!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:11 AM
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23. Yes, slow it down
Also,

There is a "then" in there somewhere that should read "them"
Is the image of * and the turkey the last one? The music was playing for a long time on that image.
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KerryThatWeight Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:17 AM
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5. I don't support using soldier remains as political fodder
Sorry.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:21 AM
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6. Well, I don't support the use of LIVE soliders as political fodder!
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 08:31 AM by rocknation
;)
rocknation
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:21 AM
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7. What DO you support then?
Standing idly by while BUSH DOES IT?

this has you scared, don't it?

good.

BTW. I'm a Veteran, I'll use my free speech as I've earned it..

they tried to make REMAINS out of me..

THanks ROcknation!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:33 AM
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9. a quick search of his posts should clue you in as to what he supports
in other words: don't bother wasting your breath, the work speaks for itself.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:24 AM
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:15 AM
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25. We at DU tried to stop this OUTRAGE before they became REMAINS
For months and months....
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:43 AM
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10. Absolutely :Excellent!
This is the type of POWERFUL message that needs to be blasted across tv screens everywhere. Those that support this illegal bunch of idiots in this administration need to see the TRUTH.

I see someone here called this political fodder.:wtf:

These caskets are filled with CHILDREN. In my mind, 18, 19,and 20 year olds are still children.

They are dying because this lying administration wanted a war. They wanted it. No other reason, they wanted it.

The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can fix it.




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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:01 AM
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11. Very Powerful
and very sad. I have to ask you a question - not questioning your verasity - but oh my god is it true that Bush calls these soldiers OFU - one fodder unit...that makes me sick to my stomach....man do I hate these people....

THANKS for your efforts great work...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 07:09 PM
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45. Punch that term into
any search engine and see what you get.. it's all over the web..

he sure LOOKS like he'd say that.. the whole Bush family has one black little heart between ALL of them..
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:11 AM
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12. Thank you, Symbolman. The song is haunting - who sings it?
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 09:16 AM by robbedvoter
who wrote it?
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:16 AM
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14. Sounds like Sting to me (n/t)
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:18 AM
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26. Sting and /or Police but I can't remember the song title.....nt
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:24 AM
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27. Ahh,Police...Murder by Numbers...its at the very end....nt
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:15 AM
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13. This was one of the best I've seen
Very powerful ... It would be nice if you could slow it a little bit - it's hard to catch everything at times but you get the general impression.

Good work :bounce:
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:20 AM
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15. That is excellent.
Perhaps you should get a job writing for Kerry - he needs a bit of
oomph in his campaign.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:55 PM
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29. Oh, but Take Back The Media IS writing for the Kerry campaign
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 01:56 PM by rocknation
Here's a commercial the DNC put together--look and sound familiar?

http://www.democrats.org/mistakesweremade

:headbang:
rocknation


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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:14 PM
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46. Thanks
I've offered them free ads already vetted for cable, ran one 3000 times during the New Hampshire Primaries ARMY OF ONE..

he could use it..
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:38 AM
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17. Wonderfully done. Great impact.
Important points made in a well ordered sequence. Appreciated the stark contrast with previous, elected Presidents, even Reagan.

The images tend to replay themselves for someone who has "re-watched!"

Definitely worth your while to create. Admire your skill.

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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:54 AM
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18. Damn - says page is unavailable! I will check back later.
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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:56 AM
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19. having probs...
I cannot get to TBTM or the memory hole for the past 2 days.... getting 'cannot find server error' anyone else had this problem or is my provider (bellsouth) just closing access to these sites
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:18 PM
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32. anybody else having problems?
all of our servers are up and running, so there shouldn't be any problems. anybody else using bellsouth unable to get to the site?

if you're having troubles, try this URL as an alternative and let me know if it works:
http://207.114.164.82/murderby.html

thanks!
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Dirty Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:59 AM
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20. Where did you get the information
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 10:24 AM by OhMyGod
about Bush calling soldiers OFU (one fodder unit)? That is so outrageous. I was wondering about the quality of your source.

Where do you find all of these images? Are they legal to use?

Excellent Flash BTW. If it is shown on TV, I recommend a voice over reading the text.

On Edit: Asking about the images because I thought I might try my hand at a Flash presentation.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:05 AM
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21. More excellent work from symbolman!
Thank you for that.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:27 AM
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28. Very Impressive
nice work SM, you've out done yourself again.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:43 PM
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30. thanks folks
I'm overwhelmed with the reponses.. from here and other sites :)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:58 PM
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31. WOW
just :wow: a jaw-dropper indeed.

the photo of Clinton crying was a gut punch that had me thisclose to tears myself.

strap the insipid chimp into a chair, tape his eyes open and force him to watch 24 hour loops of ALL the TBTM movies.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:36 PM
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33. He'd melt
like the Witch in Wizard of Oz :)

Many thanks to all of you! Pass the word, and please bump this thread, I think it's important to get this flash out there and be a thorn in their side..

people are already moving on to whether Kerry should do communion..

C'mon, THIS Is what's important, shaming BUSH by proving that even REAGAN attended funerals!

keep this afloat and thanks so very much
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:04 PM
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34. My first attempt at posting a poster!


:headbang:
rocknation
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:10 PM
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35. Looking good
rocknation..

amazing, Bush is okay with FAKE firemen, and fake (I'm guessing) remains (in the commercial).. but not with HUNDREDS of dead kids..

the ProLife pResident..

I wonder what they DID use for "remains" in that commercial.. that right there is a very STRANGE item..

was that filled with frozen turkeys for weight? was it a cardboard coffin?

Keep 'em coming Rocknation.. supporting both Live and deceased troops.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:12 PM
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36. i believe that this is an actual image
from Ground Zero.

the 'fake' firemen were in another shot.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:15 PM
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37. I thought that someone had
captured the footage shown on the Koppel show where he was showing the Bush campaign commercial and this was a part of that..

if I was denigrating actual remains I apologise.. never my intention..

if it's the faked stuff tho, I'll let 'er RIP on these guys..
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:28 PM
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38. actually
if * had used faked firemen/remains, it would have been revolting but it would have made Koppel's comments incorrect.

so, this clip was archival and 'real' while another clip used the pretend firemen.

as for the remains, it depends on the timestamp of the clip. initially, only firemen/police were brought out with the flag covering. that was changed later and all recovered victims were treated the same.

(and I know it wasn't your intention.)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:07 PM
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40. I think this is my favorite one yet
I'm going to try and mention it on the Randi Rhodes show
Tomorrow . Everyone needs to see it .

:loveya:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:52 PM
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42. Yeah!
I LOVE Randi! She's tops and she's been mentioning us a LOT lately..

we need to get our radio show on Air America as well..

thanks so much, you are a great fan!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:36 PM
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41. Brilliant!
Excellent work as always.

Hard core fan here--
Julie
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:14 PM
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43. Awesome! I was finally able to get it to come up on my puter!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:25 PM
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44. finally?
it wasn't working? I hope my server wasn't being hit too hard..

glad you like!

thanks
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:25 PM
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47. a "Standing O" for that one, Symbolman
absolutely terrific
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:20 PM
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48. Gracias
Bozita.. it was a lot of work.. learned something in the process.. that BUSH actually IS going against the grain politically, he's that much of a coward..

even REAGAN went to funerals caused by his own policies..

amazing, eh?

thanks one and all,

sym
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:35 PM
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51. Minimal recognition of dead soldiers ... definitely against the grain
Bigtime!
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Chrismarts Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:08 PM
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49. Out friggin standing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:25 PM
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50. One thing about Carlyle group
GHW Bush never ran that company (he was on an advisory board), and currently doesn't have any kind of business relationship with them, that I know of.

Otherwise, an excellent movie!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:28 AM
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52. And Bush Junior
was once Gov of Texas, but all those inmates he killed are STILL dead :)..

He was on the board, and if I know these guys he's still getting checks.. I mean, His pals make the bombs, guns, choppers, etc and his OWN SON STARTS WARS while the VP CLEANS them up?

looks like the life cycle of the "War fluke"..

thanks for all the great compliments!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:24 AM
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53. Monday morning hangover kick
eom
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 02:16 PM
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54. kick
:kick:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 02:25 PM
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55. Powerful as always!
When do we get to see the film of the Mad Bob Novak Attack?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 02:42 PM
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56. Very powerful, I was left shaking in anger...
And I'm not even American.

How can you people just sit there and take being lied to?

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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:09 PM
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57. Thanks for the
kicks guys and gals :)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:11 PM
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58. I've been trying to get through to Randi
but it's still busy
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:21 PM
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59. kick
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