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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:43 PM
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Why do we need to "stay the course"?
Okay, we were told Iraq was an imminent threat, they had WMD and our officials knew where they were at. More than half the Americans bought off on it and supported it. It wasn't true. When we were actually invading, the administration changed the reason to "free the Iraqi people" while they were bombing and killing thousands of Iraqi people, so that wasn't ture. Then they began to talk about how critical it was to overthrow Saddam, which we did that over a year ago. Oh yes, Mission Accomplished.

Now, Bush is saying that it is critical "for the world" that we bring democracy to Iraq and other areas in world, in order to do so, we must stay the course, no matter how many Americans are killed, no matter how many allies bail on us. This pResident will not change his course because he's making billions and doesn't mind the bloodshed. Unfortunately, he sounds like one hell of a strong determined leader to the simple people incapable of thinking for themselves. What I want to know is why no one asked him to explain himself, for the benefit of our dying troops, what the hell he's talking about. How is shoving democracy down the throats of scared people good for the world? Explain how it's good for the U.S. I totally understand how its good for companies like Halliburton and Carlyle. That's a no-brainer. He isn't even trying to explain or sell his position. At this point, just him saying it is enough. FOR WHO? Oh yeah, the press. WTF

All of their reasons for this war are idiotic. I just can't comprehend the people supporting and believing the lies or the excuses for their lies. I'm still hearing about how awful Clinton was for his cigars. The other day, I stood up at work and asked everyone who was hurt or affected by Clinton and Monica. Guess what, it didn't hurt anyone. Our future is at stake and people need to wake up. It's too distressing!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:44 PM
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1. Because republicans can't admit they fucked up.
What a bunch of fuck ups.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:59 PM
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6. neither can....
the mainstreem media :-(
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:54 PM
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2. because it's a hallmark of "steady leadership"
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:44 PM
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3. One word: Gallipolli n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:50 PM
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4. Simply because the destruction of the environment, the fiscal soundness
of the Federal government, and much of the rest of the world are keys to the neocon ideology, vision, and plans.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:53 PM
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5. I'm One of Those Stay the Course Democrats
I did not agree with the war and I understand those who say that if it was wrong to go in it is wrong to stay. However, I believe that we must stay in that we went in and messed up the country so now we must clean up the mess.

I do not and never believed anything Bush said about this war. I do not believe the war was to make the country or the world safer. I believe that democracy would be a good thing for Iraq; however, I do not believe we should have brought it to them, but since we are there we should give it to them now. I believe the problems in Iraq did not come about just because we invaded Iraq. I believe people are beginning to realize that they are not going to be in charge of their country and now they are willing to kill the American soldiers in that oppression is oppression whether by the United States or by Saddam Hussein.

Finally, at times I want to bring the troops home, but I just do not feel we can leave the Iraqi people on their own again. Once again we promised them democracy this time we cannot leave them before the job is done. Bush is right when he says that our credibility will be shattered if we leave. He is however, COMPLETELY WRONG as to how our credibility will be hurt. Us leaving Iraq will not give terrorist and other rogue countries the idea that we will not defend ourselves, it will make oppressed people afraid to trust us and rise up against their leaders in that they will think we will leave them when things go wrong and they will have two or three examples of us doing just that. And that will hurt world democracy because oppressive leaders will believe they can treat their people any way they want to because even if America invades them the people will not rise up due to fear.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:17 PM
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8. We owe the Iraqi people something, but not this
I saw a documentary before we invaded Iraq. All the Middle East Countries said they didn't want democracy and warned that the U.S. would be hated and despise if we didn't leave them alone and respect their culture as is. We are not receiving flowers and praises. Why do you think that is? Could it be because there's no plan of action for bringing democracy. None. Zip. Why is that? The United States of America doesn't know how? We could have paid 100 Iraqi citizens what we're paying one Halliburton employee over there. This administration doesn't really care about bringing democracy. They are just sucking the tax dollars and oil profits dry while giving us lame excuses everyone buys.

And our troops that I fully support are sitting ducks. We should not just pull out, leaving them high and dry, but our government needs to DO SOMETHING with their billions to conclude the fiasco and if a democracy is not what the Iraqi people want, we should respect that and get off our high horses. Otherwise, explain how democracy at the price of hundreds of American soldier's lives and being the target of so many countries' hatred, is such a benefit to the world.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:15 PM
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7. To steer off the course is
the same as admitting you should never have been on the course and the repukes will never admit they made mistake, not ever. (example chimpie press conference).
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