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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:50 PM
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Saw a great bumper sticker today while doing errands.
It said "Don't blame me, my vote didn't count." Of course, I'm in Illinois, so I don't know why their vote didn't count. :shrug:

It sucks that the awareness of BBV is so low. It would be great to combine that bumper sticker with an anti-Diebold message, but I just don't think anyone would get it.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:56 PM
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1. Ahhh, my child.....
    It said "Don't blame me, my vote didn't count." Of course, I'm in Illinois, so I don't know why their vote didn't count.

That driver knows wherefrom he/she speaketh.

The corruption in Florida and the Supreme Court flipped the election results, thereby negating ALL Gore votes cast in the election. Our votes here in Illinois were effectively discarded.
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:59 PM
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2. Good point.
Although my vote counted, as Gore took Illinois. F'ing electoral college. It's hard to believe someone who won by over a million votes is not sitting in the White House.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:47 PM
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9. Electoral Schmectoral
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 06:52 PM by krkaufman
To each their own, but I voted here in Illinois, as well, and remain of the opinion that my vote was discarded -- as a result of the judicial coup spearheaded by Scalia.

As for the Electoral College, I don't have a real problem with the per-state compartmentalization that it provides. Would you want to have to perform a manual recount across the entire nation just because some lazy, worthless election supervisor in Palm Beach, Florida didn't do her job?

My primary complaint with the Electoral College is with the Senatorial bonus associated with each state.

The Electoral Votes for each state are apportioned based on the number of US House representatives, providing an almost democratic approximation of that state's percentage of the US population; however, each state also receives 2 bonus electoral votes -- 1 for each Senator. So, sparsely populated states become disproportionately represented in Presidential vote totals.

Putting all the other Election 2000 issues aside (butterfly ballot, Duval multi-page ballot, pseudo-felon purging, judicial coup, NEUMANN!, etc), Gore would have won the election by about 13 electoral votes were the Senatorial bonus removed from the *tainted* totals (and by 37 had Florida EVs reflected voter intent).

After the Senatorial bonus, my next complaint is with the winner-take-all allotment of each state's electoral votes. It's hardly reasonable for all the electoral votes in a state to go to a candidate that wins by only 1 vote, given that the election is nationwide. This is a much larger component of disenfranchisement of voters than the Senatorial bonus, but is murked-up by the issue of our being a union of states.

One interesting item...
Wonder whatever happened to this initiative, and whether any other state is considering similar moves. (I doubt it, since doing so would weaken a state's electoral power should it implement such a change unilaterally.)

---
p.s. For reference....

Gore popular vote lead was approximate 537,000.

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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:02 PM
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3. the GOP needs to make more of these.
Bumper stickers like that are a great way to supress voter turnout in the general population...then the GOP can vote their right wing cattle and those votes will count.....
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:07 PM
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4. Really? I guess there's no way to know,
but I'd think the opposite. Humans are like dogs in that they suddenly want something that they take for granted when it is taken from them.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:14 PM
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6. Im joking about the GOP...
...but making people cynical about politics and turning them off voting helps the GOP, I think, more than the Demcorats...
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:25 PM
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8. Yeah, I think you're right.
Probably because the demographic makeup of Democratic voters is more subject to cynicism. Younger, more intellectual and less ideological. Sad but true.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:07 PM
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5. Huh?
I don't get your post. I expect the driver was anti-Bush and displeased that his/her vote had effectively been discarded by the Supreme Court.

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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:15 PM
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7. My point is political cynicsm helps the GOP...
....get people to think their vote doesn't count, then they will stop voting.

Im joking about the GOP being behind the bumper sticker, but the sentiment it leads to could indirectly help the GOP...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:48 PM
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11. Ah
... slipped under my subtlety radar.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:48 PM
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10. Gerat bumpersticker
If you are a democrat in Texas, you often feel like your vote does not count
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:54 PM
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12. I stand by my handle - being from NYC. Florida ate my vote.
Good bumper sticker. I'd like a button like that. I do have a REPUBLICANS STEAL ELECTIONS one.
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iorg Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:05 PM
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13. Saw one a while back
A singular lady driving an Excursion had a sticker opposing a high speed rail project. I suppose she could have had the same model with 40" mudding tires
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