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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 07:51 PM
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TALTY: I CANNOT Do This Alone | A Media Action Challenge
TALTY: THEY ARE LYING TO YOU

TALTY: I CANNOT Do This Alone | A Media Action Challenge

My premise :

We cannot be utterly assured of success in November if the corporate media is not aggressively challenged. A million+ activists can denounce Bush in Washington, DC but the corporate media will marginalize history for a meaningless angle on the Michael Jackson story.

We must TRY to take ‘on’ the media with direct action.
We must TRY to make corporate media complicity in hiding/promoting the lies of BushCo a national story.

And, I think, we can.

The Action(s):

Most of the morning ‘news’ shows that broadcast from NYC include ‘live’ camera segments.

It would not be difficult to ‘salt’ these audiences and/or arrange ‘walk-throughs’ with activists displaying “YOU ARE BEING LIED TO” signage/t-shirts, etc.

Developing a set of ‘LIES’ talking points for anyone getting air-time would be a simple thing.

Developing teams so that someone is monitoring each show while remaining in cell-phone contact with an ‘on-site’ team to maximize air-time would be a simple thing.

Perhaps there are opportunities for similar actions in other news markets.

Reality Check :

I KNOW people are busy with other issues, local contests, etc.

BUT, shattering the default ‘credibility’ of corporate news is essential if the TRUTH will be broadcast again.

Am I Totally NUTS?

It seems to me that we need to reach the swings and those on the right that will NOT be happy to learn they’ve been LIED to...

I think we need to make the MEDIA the STORY if we're going to have a chance to do that.

And, hell, the weather is nice for a morning midtown event or 50....

I need some NYC area folk (for starters) to make this happen...

You can always tape 'morning sedition' and maybe you'll hear yourself...

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 07:57 PM
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1. Great idea!
I'd love to be there, but I live thousands of miles from NY. Nevertheless, I can't think of anything more effective. The past few days have been very difficult for me as I winess what the media is doing to Kerry. And because I remember what they did to Gore in 2000, I am getting scared. You're right...we need to do something different.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:04 PM
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2. but, you CAN be part
I didn't want to write an ENDLESS post.

once 'on-site' activists launch this, we'll need THOUSANDS to write in, call in, fax, whatever and DEMAND answers.

when the MEDIA is the STORY....
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:15 PM
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5. I'll be there!
:-)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:34 PM
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6. thanks!
but, this ain't getting much attention yet.

will prop the idea up tomorrow though. it is late on a sunday.

I was just charged up by the rally today...

angered and inspired. need that these days, ya know?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:48 PM
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18. Keep posting.
I've often thought that media complicity is at the heart of the matter. Let us know what we can do. Please, private message me with plans, etc., if you have to.

Of all the issues, this one seems the most clear-cut to me.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:10 PM
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20. "clear-cut"
yeah, that's my point.

we can't get at the cabal without taking down the 'palace guard' and that's the MEDIA

make the MEDIA the STORY
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:08 PM
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3. good idea
I've always detested those screaming fools (and either mute or not watch at all) but why not use those segments to our advantage?!


Cher
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:15 PM
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4. it can be done
but, will need some traction.

got the idea out. will have to re-post in the AM.

:hi:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:54 PM
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7. Kick
Great idea! :kick:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:08 PM
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8. thanks Jen!
it's a ?W-program-related-activity-thing but WAY more aggressive.

we'll see...
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:35 PM
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9. gotta sleep soon
will try this again in the AM.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:40 PM
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10. good idea
kick
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:07 PM
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11. thanks and kick and stay tuned and
use this link:

[b][link:www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1472592|TALTY][/b]
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:12 PM
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12. muahahah!
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 10:24 PM by thebigidea
I actually did this in november 2001 on that show "Fox n' Friends" - just walked back and forth occasionally with a big "LIES" sign.

Damn, I totally forgot about that... I should dig up the tape and put it online...

if I remember correctly, you get a good glimpse at it once before they cut away and repositioned one of the cameras...

there was a delay, which kinda fucked up my attempts to have a friend watching tv let me know when I was in the shot via cell phone.

a coordinated attempt sounds splendid. I'm in!

Come to think of it, I'm surprised more people haven't fucked with them in this fashion. At most you get some guy jumping up and down like an idiot, or some geek waving some sports-related item.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:14 PM
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13. I KNEW you would 'get' the BIG IDEA
that same LIES sign, simultaneously, on four networks!

day after day after day after day...
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:17 PM
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14. I missed that part of your plan...
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 10:20 PM by thebigidea
... as I just started typing as soon as I saw the LIE mention.

Doing it day after day is many many many times better..

They'd probably switch to shutters after a couple of days, but it would be fun indeed to mess with them.

We've all talked about protesting the cable networks for the past few years, now would definetely be a good time to actually DO something...

And in a weird bit of synchronicity, THEY LIVE is on.

Perhaps an OBEY sign or two. SUBMIT. CONSUME.



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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:18 PM
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15. if they shutter the morning shows
we go after every LIVE remote they try...

make the MEDIA the STORY
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:28 PM
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16. muahahahah! redux
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 10:28 PM by thebigidea
Ah, just the sort of plan that fills me with manic glee at midnight.

Great idea, nostamj!

It would be amusing to start subtle, a group of people walking one by one by the windows, every minute or two... it would be harder for them to switch cameras back and forth... and then culminate in having one person in each window, so no matter what morning jackass they cut to, there's a little unlicensed closed captioning for each one.

By the time they send out a rentacop, the damage is done.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:53 PM
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19. like I said, you GET it
this requires SMARTS

a group so diverse, so anonymous...

we are impossible to predict.

and we ARE smart enough....
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:34 PM
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17. Awesome plan, nostamj!
Glad the march motivated and inspired you, which inspires the rest of us.

I am also surprised this hasn't been done. Could be the new cool craze...hang out with the C.H.A.D.s--Crowd Hackers Against Dubya!

Sounds like a fun time, and I wish I could I could be on-camera, though I will support from the other side.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:13 PM
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21. thanks!
it will require support from all sides.

some will be 'watchers' and 'responders'

you'll *see* something and DEMAND a response.

they will HAVE to respond.

let them FEED on each other.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:12 AM
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22. perhaps but awesomely ignored
<sigh>
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:18 AM
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23. Activism always is, it seems
I'm working on a plan for media action as well, but like everyone, finding a chunk of time to put something rather ambitious together is difficult. There shouldn't be any excuses, though; is America worth a few hours of our time (at least as much as is spent on DU)? Hell YES!!

:bounce:
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 02:15 AM
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24. Hey, CNN!



POLL THIS!!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:15 AM
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25. kick for monday morning n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:09 PM
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26. Kick. nt
nt
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:34 PM
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27. kick for monday night
<sigh>
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:22 PM
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28. I am in Chicago, so you can sign me up to be a watcher
and responder. I know you looking for New Yorkers, but once you get them, tell me where and when. I'm ready.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:26 PM
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29. new yorkers.... for direct action
but, need others for lots of aspects and suppport!

thanks.

every time I feel like just forgetting about this (as the thread drifts off w/o comment), someone posts and I have to hold some measure of hope...
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 10:13 PM
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30. Gawd love ya, Nostamj! You're always on top of stuff! HELL YES!
It's TIME! The time is NOW!! We need to get the media on the run if they're going to keep trying to shove their shit down our throats!

I'm sick of it all. It's time to harrangue and harrass EVERY news media pundit, EVERY news editor, and protest EVERY media outlet until they start telling the truth.

One thing I've learned on DU these past few years: The congresscritters get their news from the Newspapers (!) and the News Networks! Stupid as that may sound, that's what they get. They don't have "researchers" like we do here. They no longer have the benefit of investigative reporters! They've all been bought or fired.

Congresscritters VOTE (!) on stuff, because they hear from the "news" that that's the way everyone "believes". BULLSHIT!!!!! Fux news isn't the way "it is"!

We need MILLIONS of us -- from every progressive, liberal, and free-thinking web site in the universe -- to come together and kick some media butt. We're hardly even getting the proper publicity for the BBV issue, because the voting machine guys are in bed with the media guys.

BBV is my BIGGEST issue. The media is impeding the spread of the news about that issue. (As well as a hundred other issues that need an airing.) They are INTERFERING in the truth of our Democracy, and the jig is up!

Let's march on the media companies. Let's e-mail them until they wish they didn't have to get out of bed in the morning. And let's take the fight to them. They've been asking for it!

:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 10:35 PM
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31. thanks!
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 10:36 PM by nostamj
this is NOT catching much fire (yet)

of course, whether your "big" issue is BBV or Kerry, the corporate media is standing in the way.

bushco and his fascist enablers/promoters are the BIG enemy BUT, you can't really get to them w/o taking on corporate media and it's relentless propaganda in their defense/distraction...

any NYers with a sense of theatre and guts? any?

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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 08:00 AM
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32. Let me know when and where...
Great idea. I'm away for the rest of this week, but I'm back in NYC on Sat.

I'd love to help out with this.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:37 PM
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33. i'm hoping we can attract enough
to pull this off.

kick the thread, put a TALTY link in your subject line...

I will eventually set something up in the Meeting Room or Activism where things move more slowly.

but, need to attrack INTEREST first...
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:08 PM
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34. not going to give up on this
quite yet.

give it a kick if you'd like to see it happen.

it is SO DUable....
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 08:06 PM
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35. I'll kick this. NO problem, nostamj - GREAT idea.
We have to wage a multi-front campaign.

I'll kick, AND kick in my usuals (people were looking for this today)...


PLEASE NOTE MY SIG LINE – TO CALL YOUR REPS, TOLL FREE!!!

OR, TRY (877) – 762 – 8762. It’ll get you there, too! (Thank you, redqueen!)

Please note, here, The World's Greatest Lists of Media Contacts – updated April 14, 2004 – in the following thread:

LINK:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1413842#

IF THEY THINK WE DON’T CARE, THEY WON’T, EITHER!

I'm in L.A., nostamj, so I can't physically go there, but you are SO correct about targeting the morning shows - on NBC, ABC, and CBS. MORE people watch "The Today Show" and "Good Morning America" in one week than watch Pox tv in a year. The "big three" networks are still the big-audience way to go. Cable just doesn't have the penetration. It's growing, but it is NOT there yet.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:02 AM
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36. thanks and thanks
for your great 'media contacts' thread

got that baby booikmarked AND in my favorites folder

this idea is a slow-burner.

p.s. we NEED people outside of NYC. specifically, we need to monitor the shows over about a week to see if there are regular segments that would have opportunities to get airtime.

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