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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:31 PM
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I feel ashamed of Colorado right now.
Not only do we have Colorado Springs, many stupid congress people and a senator who made a dumb remark about the Coors twins. We have an idiot governor, a senate candidate who would rather be compared to the KKK than John Kerry, and now a holy roller that pulled a comic strip because of its war remarks. Please. how did we get stuck with all these idiots?
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Van Helsing Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:34 PM
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1. How the hell did MN become a battlegound state...
int the presidential election this year? I thought we were a liberal state. :cry:

God...is there any state that isn't full of republican idiots?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:35 PM
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2. Which comic strip? Doonesbury?
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:36 PM
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3. How?
Because our neighbors voted for them. They think only in black and white. They have little education. They are selfish and drive like they own the road.

BTW, which holy roller are you talking about?
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:38 PM
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4. The Journal Advocate.
They pulled the Doonsbury comic this week. They were on the top 10 conservative idiots.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:40 PM
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5. I know what `ya mean, my home state
Use to love it, but not the political aspect part of it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:54 PM
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6. the hell you say
imagine how it feels to live in Texas. :o
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:16 PM
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7. Isn't Owens up to his neck...
in some kind of serial sexual harassment stink, but the papers haven't picked up on it?

Know what you mean about Colorado Springs--to add to its many charms, my insane in-laws live there...

It's disheartening to see what's happened to Colorado, including Boulder, where I used to live. It's become new-age yuppie hell with a vengeance. Guess moving to Nova Scotia in 1990 wasn't such a dumb move after all...

:cry:
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:20 PM
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8. and the worst part is
that the swing to the right has been fueled by people moving here in the last 10 years. Our radical conservatism isn't even home grown.
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Eccho Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:20 PM
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9. Whats wrong w/Colo Springs?
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 11:20 PM by Eccho
You can hardly expect the place with Ft. Carson and Norad to be loaded with liberals. Roy Romer(D) was the guy that made the state boom, and it wasn't that long ago. With the population deeply infused with Californians, it is moving to the left a lot more than it was 10-20 years ago. There are just a lot of hold overs. Don't get discouraged.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:32 PM
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10. Colorado Springs is the home
of Focus on the Family, and has become one of the country's major hubs of extreme fundamentalist Christianity.

This is a relatively recent development and makes it a far bigger center of RW power than it was simply under the influence of Ft. Carson and NORAD.
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Eccho Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:42 PM
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13. I know about Focus on the Family
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 11:46 PM by Eccho
They had the amendment that nullified the housing fairness laws in Aspen and another city (can't remember which) that said that the owners couldn't discriminate between gays or any minorities. Focus introduced an amendment that was so confusing that if you against the law then you had to vote yes, and vice versa. And damned if the thing didn't pass. Well, once people realized they had been swindeled, then the libs and gays of Colo Spgs and other cities united (I personally worked on some fundraisers) and got the crazy law overturned.

I gather from reading some of the posts that the Gazette Telegraph has done what it has many times in the past, censored libral voices by cutting out a comic or columnist, this isn't new. They are owned by the right and have been for a long time. (I worked there briefly 12 years ago). Don't worry about that. There is a wonderful libral paper called the Independant in Colo Spgs that carries everything including Boondocks. Believe me, that city has a libral voice, but it is just mixed in with the far right in a way most cities aren't.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:36 AM
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22. and i CHOSE to live in hell!
hey, ANYBODY can live in a liveral paradise and feel good, fact is somebody's gotta stick it out in the neocon hellholes! it does no good to have even more "dems" in democratic areas. i say "dems" because i am an independant, but there is only one choice this year, so now i am a dem for the time being, don't hate me if i forgot the big D.

yup, i live in the springs, never meant to stay as long as i did, just too lazy to move, and got a decent job, which means a lot.

you are correct on your assesment of this town, and the papers, but the independant only carries a watered down version of the boondocks, one strip a week...

the beauty of living in such a conserative military area is the acces we get to certain people, we have a visit by * himself coming in june, so he can "finally" deliver a commencement speech at the air force academy, IIRC its normally done by the president early in his term, but he's passed up his last chance or two, finally important enough in an election year.

lots of conserative money in this town, but the people i actually see on a daily basis are poor military grunts and their families. i really feel sorry for them.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:23 AM
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18. Umm...re: "With the population deeply infused with Californians,"
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 12:24 AM by hlthe2b
it is moving to the left..." Actually, the predominant migration of Californians has been from Southern California-- especially Orange County and they are predominately REPUG....
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:34 PM
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11. I hear that the drought might destroy CO.
The state has contracts to provide water to CA, NV, etc. and will be in serious financial and environmental trouble if the drought goes on for two or three more years.

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:39 PM
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12. Oh great.
Just what we need. I am glad we got all that precip over the last couple of days.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:49 PM
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14. i dont know, surprised as sh*t
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 11:52 PM by seabeyond
didnt expect it from colorado. i listened to your rep with gay marriage and the sf mayor and she was bad, and what is this with the comment with coor twins. i was so hot when i saw one of the commercials, the one in the winter, and the girl crawling on the ground, oh i was pissed there for my little boys to watch with father during football. went into a big ole to do with the coors company, i am sure i wasnt the only one. will never see coor the same. and then for them to have the gall to tell me what family values are

btw, living in texas, i cant say a lot here, just empathy your way
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:06 AM
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15. "I feel ashamed of Colorado right now."
>Not only do we have Colorado Springs, many stupid congress people >and a senator who made a dumb remark about the Coors twins. We have >an idiot governor, a senate candidate who would rather be compared >to the KKK than John Kerry, and now a holy roller that pulled a >comic strip because of its war remarks. Please. how did we get >stuck with all these idiots?

Don't feel ashed of Colorado, you have one of the most beautiful states in the country and your conservative idiots are no worse than ours are here in the south..
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:12 AM
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16. It is beautiful
But is becoming decidedly less beautiful. Housing developments being built everywhere you look. The Repugs are destroying the state. I hate what out state has become.

Everytime I hear something on the news about some crazy Coloradan censoring liberals or some dumbass minister putting up a stupid sign on his church denouncing Jews, I feel embarrassed to live here. I don't want to be associated with these people.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:25 AM
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19. Could be worse... imagine living in Tom Delay's district!!!! eom
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:18 AM
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17. Not that we (CO) haven't had our homegrown conservative idiots...
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 12:19 AM by hlthe2b
but in all fairness, the sharp turn rightward has come with the in-migration of tons of Orange County (S. Cali) Pugs as well as a disproportionate share of TX fundies... CO Springs is sort of a special case, having always had its military community and the unfortunate magnet for all the RW XIAN groups...

However our homegrown conservatives (especially on the western slope) are far more libertarian than rebublican, but in recent years the PuGS have managed to convince them that they were more in keeping with libertarian values than the Dems... Something we can definitely work on, given the erosion of state's rights under the Bushies and the attack on civil liberties.... Food for thought, hmm?
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 01:37 AM
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20. Beautiful state, ugly people.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:09 AM
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21. This is what Colorado gets for voting Republican. . .
same situation for Columbine - they voted for a sheriff who screwed up and covered up the investigation big time.

You get what you pay for - tax wise.


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