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Mon Apr-26-04 11:03 AM
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Bush 48% Kerry 44% Rasmussenreports.com |
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I have given up on the stupidity of the citizens in this country! http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htmSame bullshit. Let's see how the idiots feel after bush is re-elected in four years, and they have lost more of their children in a war that didn't have a thing to do with terrorism or WMDs.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:06 AM
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Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 11:06 AM by TakebackAmerica
W's outspending us 10-1 right now. I'm surprised it's not double-digits.
By October, we'll be matching Bush dollar for dollar.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:07 AM
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3. we're winning the electoral map.! |
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Bush is wasting his money.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:10 AM
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Where is the link to the electoral map? |
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I just cannot believe with all the incompentence that has come out about this administration how he still has over 52% approval rating. What does that say about this country?
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:12 AM
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:32 AM
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18. Here's one electoral map.... |
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Mon Apr-26-04 12:01 PM
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24. Oh my. * winning the popular vote and LOSING the election? |
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I think I'd soil my pants.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:07 AM
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2. I wouldnt give those polls.. |
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Much credence..most of media takes it orders from the White House.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:08 AM
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4. When is Kerry going to stop being a "gentleman"? |
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Right now it sure looks to me like we have another "turn the other cheek" Democrat running for office; a guy who only half-heartedly fights back, and only says "Did not!"
When is this party going to learn that "not stooping to that level" is a SURE way to lose an election?
Republicans fight dirty, and no, Americans are NOT smart enough to filter out the lies from the truth. And with the media trumpeting the White House talking points over and over again, a nominee can only rely on himself.
The Democratic party squelched Dean because he wasn't part of their club, and in doing so, they lost the one potential fighting candidate they had.
So once again, here we go, on a long slog of campaign ineptitude towards certain loss.
Only this time there won't be any lessons to learn, or any coming back -- because there won't BE another election. Bushco will gerrymander all opposition right out of existence.
I hope Terry McAuliffe is happy. Maybe he is, after all; maybe he's getting paid by the Republicans to make people think there's an alternative.
Yes, I AM disgusted.
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Mon Apr-26-04 01:12 PM
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and irony Dean was a fighter, my type of liberal. But the party found him unelectable and alas look where it gets him, he is getting slowly dukakised
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:09 AM
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5. New Fox poll out Sunday |
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Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 11:09 AM by kstewart33
Among registered voters: Bush 44, Kerry 43.
Stop panicking.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:15 AM
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11. "Registered voters" +"7 months till election" +"FOX news" = |
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It really doesn't matter WHO they show up. Unless it's a 10+ point gap it doesn't mean anything (good or bad)
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:10 AM
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6. Give the American Public time to comprehend |
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Iraq is spiraling out of control. If we go into Najah or Fallajuah, then the rest of the country is going to unit against the US. The UN is not going to bail us out and the "coalition" is falling apart. We are in a no win situation due to the poor planning by Bushco.
If causalities continue at the current pace for a couple of months, the reality of the situation will sink in.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:12 AM
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7. If the people were getting all the facts and not the right wing spin |
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every night things would be different.
Bush has more money to spend on advertising and the wing nut radio whores for him 24/7. With all that he is only leading by 4 points.
Take away the media whoring and replace it with objective reporting and Kerry would be way ahead.
I don't see that this year will be much different than 2000 where the media is concerned. It will be attack Kerry all day and all week and all month until November. Still Gore won the popular vote with all that being thrown against him. He would have been president if all the votes were counted.
I hope Kerry finds a way to nullify the effect of the Rights control of the media.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:13 AM
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9. Please ignore Rasmussen |
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Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 11:13 AM by Frodo
#1) No, this is not another "polls this early are irrelevant" .. Though they ARE #2) And it's not another "Rasmussen is right wing" .. Though he IS
I recognize that when a few national big-name polls showed things had moved in Bush's favor last week - a few people hooked on to the Rasmussen tracking that showed no substantial change.
But people have to understand that Rasmussen does an AUTOMATED poll. There is no track record of how to use those numbers or even that they have any relevance at all.
Add the squirrelly methodology to the lousy track record to #1&2 above and you get...... "so???"
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:14 AM
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10. For an incumbent to be this low in the polls is worse for * then it is for |
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Kerry.
I am not worried yet.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:17 AM
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13. Not at the presidential level. |
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For a Senator to be behind or slightly ahead at this point is dangerous (one reason why I worry about SD).
History is full of proof that it doesn't matter WHO is ahead at this point. Bush could be up OR down by several points right now and it gives us no hint of where we will end up.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:25 AM
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17. I think history shows that the president gets re-elected |
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(or re-selected in the chimps case) when they enjoy ratings in the upper 50's. I think we have to remember that the burden will ultimately the chimps job performance and not Kerry's vision. Some recent polls I saw show that (approximately) 67% of the nation feel our country is headed in the wrong direction. I think that is what it will boil down to in the end. Bottom line, unless chimpy gets his poll numbers up, he is doomed.
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Mon Apr-26-04 12:09 PM
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25. Unfortunately it shows nothing of the sort. |
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Surely you've seen the "Dole led Clinton" and "Mondale led Reagan" posts before? When people say that polling this far out is irrelevant they mean it's REALLY irrelevant. I'd rather have my guy up than down (but that's just so I sleep well at night), but it doesn't "signal" anything for either candidate to be ahead right now (unless it's WAY ahead).
As I said.... Unlike congressional races where it IS a problem to be under 50% at this point. There is no track record of incumbent presidents losing more than they win based on polls this far out. The dynamic is just too different... geography (popular in WHICH states?), issues, war, etc. etc. etc.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:18 AM
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Why do you think they've dragged Karen Hughes out of hiding to do surrogates work? The recent onslaught certainbly reeks of desperation:
Purple Heart "controversy", throwing medals, taking communion, etc.... They are trying everything possible to get traction and they get nothing.
It looks great for us.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:57 AM
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22. Personally, I'm amazed that his numbers are over 1% |
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The only people I see voting for him would be his parents, his wife Laura, and his wife Condi.
I don't think the twins will vote for him. They don't like the publicity, plus I heard that Jenna is a DUer.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:16 AM
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But I'd be more worried if Kerry were far ahead at this point.
Its only a four point spread, and there's a long way to go.
Dean said something yesterday that made a lot of sense to me: "I think over time, Senator Kerry has shown that he's a very strong closer. And I ruefully can attest to that."
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:17 AM
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14. Stop with the Rasmussen polls |
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Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 11:18 AM by demdem
For crying out loud he missed the 2000 election by NINE points. He had Bush winning by NINE. So stop with this guy's polls. I have one ply toilet paper more reliable.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:23 AM
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16. How many Republicans vs. Democrats responded to this poll? |
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It's time to debunk these polls.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:34 AM
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19. it's a TRACKING poll. |
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Small samples taken daily and then averaged into a 3-day mean. This ensures swings in all directions. A week ago Kerry was up. All this poll is good for is analyzing trends. It's instantaneous numbers are meaningless. The trend is a near tie for months now. We all knew that.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:37 AM
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20. unbelievably, 48% of the public still supports |
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the traitor bush. these people obviously don't care about our soldiers or democrasy.
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Mon Apr-26-04 01:10 PM
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26. The fact is... he will get 45% of the vote |
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Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 01:10 PM by Blasphemer
Guaranteed! The hardcore freeper/fundies plus a good 10% of various greedy, misinformed or one issue voters. Taking that into consideration, a poll showing 48% is pretty meaningless. Kerry just has to concentrate on solidying the votes of the people not part of that 45%.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:50 AM
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I've recommended this site many times before. Anyone untested in poll analysis should bookmark "Donkey Rising." I've enclosed a link to the post about Rasmussen, but would also strongly recommend that you read the last few entries about Bush and Iraq. rasmussen info-- http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/donkeyrising/archives/000466.shtmlmain web site-- http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/donkeyrising/
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:59 AM
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23. Too Much Self-Loathing Here Lately |
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This means very little. First, Bush has spent a ton of money directed at Kerry. If advertising didn't sway opinions, we wouldn't see any.
Kerry has not spent dime one attacking Bush on a national basis, yet. He doesn't have to. The best thing to do is let him twist in the wind, spend his way to a slight lead and then start the ads and the debates in which the lies in the Repub ads get exposed and Kerry makes Li'l Georgie look the fool he is during a debate.
Remember, Georgie's dad had a lead 6 months before the election in '92. We know how well that worked out for him. The Professor
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Mon Apr-26-04 01:20 PM
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28. Their mandate is to keep the race "close" |
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Close enough for a replay of the selection.
:headbang: rocknation
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