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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:01 PM
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Has Kerry Been Tough Enough On Bush?
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 04:04 PM by bigtree
I don't know what motivates folks who claim that Kerry hasn't taken the fight to Bush. I just can't imagine that they've heard everything that has been said by the presumptive Democratic nominee.

Here's a collection of John Kerry's words so far in this campaign:
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"We shouldn’t be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them in Brooklyn."
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“Under this Administration, America’s middle class has been abandoned – its dreams denied, its Main Street interests ignored and its mainstream values scorned by a White House that puts privilege first,” said John Kerry. “Middle class Americans don’t ask for special favors, they just want basic fairness, and a President who fights for that ideal.”
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“I'd like to know what it is Republicans who didn't serve in Vietnam have against those of us who did. I'm tired of Republicans trying to divert attention from the real issues."
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“One way or another we're going to have a debate about the future not the past. We’re not going to let them make this about a war 34 years ago, when we need to talk about the war today."
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“Republicans like to question the patriotism of Democrats who question the direction of our nation. They put Max Cleland in an ad with Osama bin Laden to question his commitment to the defense of our country. This President came to Georgia to campaign for Saxby Chambliss and didn't say a word about it. Now his surrogates are at it again. Well, I don't think that politics of fear has any place in our country, and I'm still waiting for the Republicans to tell me what more Max Cleland has to leave on the battlefield of Vietnam to prove his commitment to our country.”
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"America deserves a better debate. If you want to debate the Vietnam era, and the impact of our experiences on our approaches to presidential leadership, I am prepared to do so.

This is not a debate to be distorted through your $100 million dollar campaign fund. This is a debate that should be conducted face to face."
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“President Bush gave his speech tonight as if the past three and a half years never happened. But the American people haven't forgotten this President's failed record, because they have to live with it everyday. George Bush's credibility is running out with the American people."
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“It’s no surprise that the president chose to unveil his vision for America at a $1,000 a plate fundraiser. His contributors are getting plenty from this administration while the rest of America suffers."
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“For everyone who saw the President yesterday in Daytona when he said to all of America, ‘gentlemen start your engines,’ I say we need a new president who says to the American people lets start our economy and put America back to work."
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"George Bush just doesn’t get it: tax cuts for the wealthy don’t make a difference for middle class Americans like Noemi Gonzalez – economic opportunity and the quality of our schools does. Tax cuts for millionaires don’t help the 56,400 Floridians who have lost manufacturing jobs on Bush’s watch, the 115,558 children in Florida shortchanged by Bush education cuts, or the 19,633 Floridians forced to declare bankruptcy last year because of the stumbling economy and failed policies."
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"For Americans who are tired of the politics of attack and smear, its time for a president who lifts America up and invests in the real needs of our country. Instead of a president whose top economic adviser says it’s good for America to send jobs overseas, its time for a president who knows how to create jobs at home. Instead of an administration who believes that the only indicator of the economy is the stock market, its time for a president who measures the economy in jobs, health care and the skills of workers.”
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"George Bush is a walking contradiction, a walking barrel of broken promises," Kerry told the morning gathering.

"As the phrase goes," he said, "Houston, we've got a problem."
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"I think George Bush ought to leave the ranch and come out and talk to people who have lost their jobs," he said, standing in a balloon-festooned plaza in front of a massive Lone Star flag. "I think he ought to leave the ranch and come out and talk to people who don't have any healthcare."

He accused Bush of telling "one of those tall Texas tales"
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"I believe what he will do tonight is run away from his own record because he doesn't have a record to run on."
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"Kerry said he's never seen such "crony capitalism and crony government" or such "arrogant, inept, reckless and ideological foreign policy."
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He vowed that if elected he would go directly to the United Nations in the first 100 days of his administration to "make it clear that when the secretary of state speaks, he or she speaks for America -- not for the losing cause of internationalism inside an administration obsessed with its own hubris and swagger."
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John Kerry Wednesday attacked President Bush's foreign policy, calling it "arrogant, inept, and reckless . . ."
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"Coddling big oil, serving up tax giveaways for the wealthiest, and opening up doors for the lobbyists and for the polluters: That's the only mission accomplished by George W. Bush."
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Florida Democrats, it's time to get real. George Bush thought he could play dress-up on an aircraft carrier in front of a sign saying "Mission Accomplished" and we wouldn't notice that our troops are dying in Iraq every day."
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"The largest cost of the Bush tax giveaway will not be borne by any of us here today - it will be paid for by our children," Kerry said. "We're borrowing from Social Security and Medicare to put money in our pockets today - and sticking our children with the bill."
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"We’re not only going to send Bush back to Texas, we’re going to stand in front of a sign that says ‘Mission Accomplished.’"
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While applauding Libya's announcement, the Massachusetts senator said in a statement that it "makes clear the shortcomings of George Bush's go-it-alone unilateralism."
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''He misled every one of us,''
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This is the biggest 'say one thing, do another' administration that I've seen."
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"On issue after issue, George Bush has given America a raw deal, and everyone in this room knows it," he said in the text. "George Bush goes to Baghdad to carry around a fake Thanksgiving turkey while he cuts support for our troops and 40,000 veterans are left on a hospital waiting list."
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"George Bush has shown he has no experience to be commander in chief"
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Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry said Tuesday that President Bush has used the threat of war in Iraq to distract attention from the nation's economic problems."
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"The largest cost of the Bush tax giveaway will not be borne by any of us here today — it will be paid for by our children," Kerry said. "We're borrowing from Social Security and Medicare to put money in our pockets today — and sticking our children with the bill."
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"George Bush's vision does not live up to the America I enlisted in the Navy to defend, the America I fought for in the Senate, and the America that I hope to lead as president."
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"(Bush) has squandered the goodwill of the world after September 11 and lost the respect and influence we need to make our country safe."
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"Being flown to an aircraft carrier and saying `mission accomplished' doesn't end a war," Kerry said, drawing laughs and applause. "And the swagger of a president saying, `bring 'em on' will never bring peace."


Got anymore Kerry zingers aimed at Bush? Add them below.



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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:06 PM
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1. Thank you I was wondering the same thing ...why are people so
hard on him here.
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buddy22600 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:08 PM
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2. Nice post
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:09 PM
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3. Kerry is a skull and boneser, he's onside with the 9-11 deception, and...
He believes in a Fascist New World Order with Amerikka at the head...

Maybe, that's it...
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:15 PM
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6. Dude, take a deep breath, think about what you're writing, and
hit "edit."
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:17 PM
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8. I think that might have been sarcasm.
Actually, I hope that was sarcasm....
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:57 PM
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28. Ok, I was wrong.
It wasn't sarcasm. It was ignorance.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:23 PM
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14. Why don;'t you ask why Kerry goes along with the fake "War On Terror:?
He has no integrity. In my opinion, he's a fraud.
Anyone who accepts the "official story" of 9-11 and CONSISTENTLY fails to bring up the unanswered questions of 9-11, the Chimp's strange reaction on that day, and the FACT that the Bush Crime Family are the chief beneficiaries of 9-11.

Why don't YOU take a deep breath and learn the truth...

SKULL AND BONES: GEORGE BUSH AND JOHN KERRY

http://infowars.com/print/Secret_societies/alex_vid_kbsab.htm

http://911citizenswatch.org/

http://www.unansweredquestions.org/

http://www.letsroll911.org/



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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:30 PM
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16. ***Reactionary Leftism Alert***
"Anyone who accepts the "official story" of 9-11 and CONSISTENTLY fails to bring up the unanswered questions of 9-11, the Chimp's strange reaction on that day, and the FACT that the Bush Crime Family are the chief beneficiaries of 9-11."

This is not a sentence, it is a series of clauses that presents an "if" but no "then"...just saying...


I agree there are unanswered questions about 9/11. I think ragging on Kerry for not taking highly touchy positions on what is supposed to be a non-partisan issue (and which is currently being investigated by a bipartisan commission) is politically insane.

Kerry is not politically moronic, it does not necessarily follow that he has no integrity.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:33 PM
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17. Okay, I'll grant you that--there's a lot weirdness about what
supposedly happened on 9-11 that has never been explained. I'd like to see Kerry dig into that too. (Although Dean got hammered when he suggested that Bush might have known something about it ahead of time.)

But that's a long way from "Kerry was part of a plot . . ."
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:19 PM
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10. Great
I can't tell if you're serious or joking. I sure don't take the s&b world domination crap in regard to John Kerry as anything other than a misinformed, paranoid joke.

But, good luck with that. The choice will be between Kerry or Bush. Whoever else you support, whatever shadowy, omnipotent figure may be out there, hasn't achieved anything near the support our Democratic candidate has. What does that say about that choice?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:35 PM
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19. Hey, RBH, I didn't know you were a DUer
Been reading your site for a while now.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:10 PM
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4. The problem is with the media coverage.
They bury everything Kerry says and headline "controversies" about his medals.

Thank you for doing the research and posting this here. It's not the message or the messenger that is off - it's the fact that it is being censored by our "free press."

I am outraged by this. The news media in this country has sold itself to the highest bidder. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:16 PM
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7. the campaign needs to behave like one and find away thru that problem
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:23 PM
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13. Possibly you can help get his message out
Kerry won't win this alone.

FIVE STAR CONTACT INFO Activists' Resource Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1413842
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:33 PM
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18. codegreen's too busy complaining about Kerry's being silent
to help Kerry get a message out.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:57 PM
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22. the campaign needs to do better & i won't rest assured until they do.
and i'm growing tired of your public personal attacks on me.
feel free to address me in private anytime.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:01 PM
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23. codegreen
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:05 PM
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24. that's right, they have a site. i've been there. thanks for the heads up.
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 05:06 PM by codegreen
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:07 PM
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25. Cheers codegreen
I hope you get what you are looking for.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:12 PM
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5. Well, it's a start . . . I'd like him to say simply that everything Bush
has said is a lie. Then give about 50 examples.

The only thing that Bush said in his last press conference that wasn't a lie was "Good afternoon," although even there, if you're an American serving your country in Iraq (unlike old yellow-stain), that too is debatable.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:18 PM
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9. "He misled every one of us."
DAMMIT, SAY IT!!"HE LIED!!"

Sharpton could say it.

Kucinich is STILL saying it. "The President lied to the American people."

DAMMIT. SAY IT IN WORDS OF ONE SYLLABLE SO EVERY SCHMUCK CAN UNDERSTAND. "HE LIED." "AND THEN HE LIED MORE!!"

Simple words, but he doesn't have the GUTS to say them.

"Misled, my you-know-what."
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:50 PM
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20. Kerry doesn't have the guts?
You take a number of small steps which you believe are right, thinking maybe tomorrow somebody will treat this as a dangerous provocation. And then you wait. If there is no reaction, you take another step: courage is only an accumulation of small steps.
George Konrád (b. 1933), Hungarian writer, politician.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:19 PM
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11. Thank you for the great post
All Kerry has to do is keeping talking. Remember Clinton? Clinton talked and talked and talked and folks started to listen. That's all Kerry has to do is to keep challenging junior and his stupidness. The whore networks will spin into entertainment but won't be able to over come the GOP lies. In the end Kerry will win. He may not be perfect but it is all we have to go with right now.....and that is a big improvement over junior.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:21 PM
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12. He has not, because he has given snippets, rather than the big picture
The problem isn't that Kerry is wrong; he's right. But all these individual criticisms bounce off eventually. There are so many individual things to criticize this Administration for, that you lose track. He needs a central message - that this administration is the most radical, out of touch with mainstream America administration in American history, THEN use the snippets. He's losing the forest for the trees.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:26 PM
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15. No, he hasn't
He's got facts and the right views on his side, and yet he isn't getting a lot of attention on it. Why? Because there's a difference between saying the right things and having the right people hear.

You're right in that I hadn't heard all of those; the Baghdad firehouse remark was a home run. However, if a lot of people haven't heard stuff like that, then it's obvious that he isn't doing enough. These things need to be turned into slogans, not just uttered once or twice.

How many of us here at DU would buy, for instance, a T-shirt with the firehouse remark on it? Hell, I'd buy two.

It's like a boxing match - you can uncork the perfect punch, but you might have to hit your opponent more than once to get him to fall. That's what Kerry has to do, and he needs to start now. The media isn't doing him any favors, but that's no excuse - this is a presidential campaign, not a vote on who gets the Heisman Trophy.

Just saying the right things isn't necessarily being tough enough. He needs to shout this stuff from the rooftops, daily, often enough for everyone to hear it constantly. And so far, he isn't. I wish he would start today.

JMHO.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:54 PM
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21. give him your shoulder to stand on
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 05:18 PM by bigtree
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:08 PM
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26. He needs to drop the word "misled"
...and instead use the word "lied."

Big difference.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:42 PM
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27. So, you pick one word and claim that that represents his campaign
This cherry-picking nitpicking is unbelievable to anyone who actually bothers to follow what Kerry has said.
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markomalley Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:01 PM
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29. There is nothing Kerry could say...
...that would be tough enough on B*. If he said what I'm sure he and most of his supporters feel, they would be jailed...hopefully after he is elected, he will set up a full investigation, throw open all of B*'s presidential records, declassify everything, and bring that motley crew (no offense to the band) what is coming to them.

There needs to be a full reckoning...
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