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Mon Apr-26-04 07:38 PM
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Can we all agree that a renewed draft is political suicide? |
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How effective would a renewed draft be since there would be, assuming the issue is a political hot potato, wide spread refusal to submit to such an action?
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Mon Apr-26-04 07:41 PM
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1. Only in an election year. |
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For instance, if Bush* is elected in November, we will definitely have a draft, yet he will pay virtually no price politically.
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Mon Apr-26-04 08:01 PM
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3. Or during the 1st term... |
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Mon Apr-26-04 09:01 PM
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9. Absolutely, no price if Bush in second term. |
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Some will not be happy, but the majority will support it--after all it's to fight terrah-ism. Baa-Baa.
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Mon Apr-26-04 09:23 PM
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11. There would absolutley be a price |
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Reinstating the draft would require an act of Congress. The entire House and 1/3 of the Senate would have to face the voters in less than two years.
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Mon Apr-26-04 07:48 PM
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2. The draft is coming both parties have determined that to |
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persecute the ongoing war in Iraq and the new wars the shrub plans will take a much large military. The decision has already been made it will be implemented after the selection no mater who wins as the f***ing war is gung ho and guns a blazing from both candidates. I guess it's their solution to unemployment and social security.
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Mon Apr-26-04 08:13 PM
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4. Draft will happen no matter who wins |
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Have you ever received an RSVP from the President, I have! I was minding my own business and BAM, days later standing on a stage with the flag at the induction station in Newark NJ. Hey dudes and dudettes, we were counted off, left to right, one two three, four. The four's were told to keep their hands in the air. The rest of us took the seats. The four's were moments later sworn into the US Marine Corps! The year 1967, in the spring of 68 they were playing pop-up target during the Tet offensive.
Better hope they don't follow the Korean draft method. There all citizens go in the army between the 2nd and 3rd year of college and remain in army reserves until age 55. Better be careful voting for a guy who voted "it's a good idea to go to war???"
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:12 PM
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And having lived through that period of history, I have NO doubt that you recognize Guerilla warfare when you see it? LOVE to hear you take on the objectives of the Fallujah, Najaf situation... Am I wrong in the assessment that the current situation we see unfolding will serve the following two purposes, with the full understanding of both sides? a. The GF in Iraq will garner more support and further clarify WHO the enemy is? b. the dumb ass 'murikkkans will insist on more troops (draft is necessary now!) to avenge the blood letting? FUBAR FUBAR FUBAR!
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Mon Apr-26-04 08:27 PM
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5. Not at all. A Draft is the only way to go, as long as there are |
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provisions. No deferments for being in college. Only when we have a draft will people (RW Repubs), start to care.
No jumps out of real service available. Congresspersons sons and daughters have to go. REQUIRED. If their parent votes us into war, if they believe in what we are doing in our "War on Terror" they should want their progeny on the front line.
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Mon Apr-26-04 08:46 PM
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Then we can see how committed everyone is to "freeing the world" per the voice that tells Dubya how it must be done.
I stand by my motto:
If YOU want to go to war Bush/Cheney 04
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Mon Apr-26-04 08:39 PM
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6. Let's tell everyone we can that Bush will re-instate it when he gets |
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back in. After all it's probably true.
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Mon Apr-26-04 08:54 PM
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Bush 2004 = Draft 2005
Not sure who began the slogan here at DU, but I printed off 500 stickers that say this and have been leaving them on the bus, park benchs, et al.
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Mon Apr-26-04 09:21 PM
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10. I don't think you realize . . . |
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. . . that conservatives think the draft is a good idea because they say kids are a punch of pot-smoking, unpatriotic fools who have no priorities in life. On another website, I posed a question about the draft and conservatives are all for it. They believe we are protecting America in Iraq.
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Mon Apr-26-04 11:59 PM
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14. No. Its not that they believe that we are protecting America |
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Its that they simply do not give a shit. At all. They don't fucking care.
They think that a draft will get rid of those "pot smoking, hippie college students" but not the "fine, upstanding, responsible, young Republicans".
And, the sad thing is, they are right.
They want a draft because they know their kids wont die.
I swear, if they have to start drafting I say that they go after every single member of College Republicans first.
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Mon Apr-26-04 10:50 PM
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12. Both houses of Congress are |
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controlled by Republicans. Practically every member of Congress voted for the Patriot Act and the IWR. What makes anyone think these bastards won't cheerfully vote for a draft? And to think there won't be all the right exemptions to get their own precious sons and daughters safe from serving is laughably naive.
It makes great rhetoric to say a universal draft with no exceptions would wake everyone up, but that's not gonna happen. What probably will happen is that there will be continued casualties in Iraq and a draft bill will be passed quickly, with no debate or discussion -- like far too much legislation in recent years. I really doubt it will take until after the election.
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