I am not an elitist, but the general population is a bunch of Morans!

[trumad]

Why hold your punches when it's the truth!

[MichaelUK]

1. Aggrement post

Same goes for Britain

[Bluzmann57]

36. Member of the general public here

and I know how to spell "agreement" and "moron".

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. Hate to admit it,

but after the last few weeks of hits that Bush has taken, the fact that he still leads in the polls is evidence enough that the world is overpopulated with morans.

[trumad]

3. Uninformed Morans

Oh they may be good at Survival trivia and picking the next Apprentice, but Politics...MORANS!

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

4. Bush owns the media

W/the propaganda machine running at full-bore, and w/so few Americans being able to afford an education beyond the 12th grade (but can get a gun whenever they want), ignorance goes hand-in-hand.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. This is the information age

Ignorance is not acceptable any more. I understand your point, but every American has a duty to go out and inform themselves. This duty has never been easier to fulfill than it is today. If one is ignorant, it is their own fault.

[BOSSHOG]

5. Reading LTTE

in both the New Orleans and Biloxi newspapers. The morans extreme ignorance and faux patriotism and faux outrage of liberals are on display and in writing daily. You are absolutely right my fellow american. We are working overtime to save them from themselves and they don't even know it.

[quispquake]

6. I agree BUT...

When we're living in a country where the media is owned by fascists, and what is reported is only what the right wingers want...the general public doesn't see what's really happening...

And when people have to work as many hours to make ends meet as they have to nowadays, there's just no time to explore alternative news media...people only have time to take the news at it's face value, and most are unable or unwilling to spend the time to explore like many of us do...

But I also understand, that if I can take the time to do it (single parent, 50 hour a week job), others should be able to too...

Yeah, it's damned infuriating!!!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. You said it

"I can take the time to do it (single parent, 50 hour a week job), others should be able to too..."

There's absolutely no excuse for ignorance on the issues today. It is sheer and unadulterated laziness.

[Karenina]

19. Errrraaaaa...

Actually, it's quite frightening... x(

[BOHICA06]

7. Not a new sentiment ...

why do you think there is an Electoral College?

[NMDemDist2]

8. hmmm interesting comment re: Electoral College

hadn't even thought about that-- Thanks!

[RobertSeattle]

11. Definition of "Elitist"

Someone who questions authority
Someone who asks for proof
Someone who challenges the powers that be

[Sinistrous]

21. Careful.

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism n.

1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
1. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
2. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

My first impulse was to be a smart ass and say that I was an elitist and that I agreed with the original poster. But then I checked the dictionary and realized that the definition perfectly described * and his minions.

[RobertSeattle]

43. My definition is to be used when a RW'er ever refers to media they don't

like.

[TN al]

12. HL Mencken once said...

..."It is impossible to overestimate the stupidity of the American people." It sounds like you are using different words to say the same thing.

[Sparkly]

13. You can tell by their parroted slogans

What amazes me is how Morans use the *exact* same words and phrases! It's like Rove puts out the fax, everybody from Jack Cafferty to Rush Limbaugh repeats it to death, and the next thing you know Morans are squawking the very same thing as if they'd thought of it all by themselves.

Examples:

"Clinton was offered bin Laden on a silver platter..."
"Gassed his own people..."
"Support the president/Troops in harm's way..."
"If ...the terrorists win..."

No doubt we'll soon be hearing about "steady leadership..."

[bkcc]

14. y'know...

If being pissed off at the general public for sleepwalking through this democracy makes me an elitist, then call me an elitist!

MORANS!

[leftofthedial]

15. either polls are complete fabrications

(talking 30%+ errors)

or half of Murkans are willfully ignorant, self-destructive, morans.

[NeonLX]

24. Probably the latter.

Reagan was preznit for eight years. Then we got Bush I. Yeah, there was a nice breather of 8 years while Clinton was in the Oval Office but the congressional repukes kept him tied in knots (and they were elected by someone). Now look what we've got--and the polls show him running neck and neck with the "best" the Democrats can come up with...

Sorry, I can't think of any other explanation except vast numbers of morans.

[Muddleoftheroad]

16. Today's second thread

Reminding folks here why many Americans will NOT vote Democratic in November.

[DaveSZ]

17. I think they're just uninformed sadly

:(

[BabsSong]

18. Let me re-post what I just replied to the first one about the truth:

(the discussion was about how dumb the American people are to keep supporting Bush)and this is what I wrote: Here's where we are. Unfortunately the Kerry campaign has sucked and has been as bad at planning an attack as Georgie is in solving Iraq. Read here last night that THANK GOD the ad writers have been fired---my, god, a high school student could have done as well. Someone is finally figuring out that we are numerous days late and a few nickles short!! From Time magazine I discovered that Kerry has two groups in his campaign. The first is headed by Mary (I bailed your ass out in Iowa) Cahill who brings with her people from what they term the "Ted Kennedy" office and who have the view of 'take the fight to them and smash them in the face". The other is a bunch of old DLC/Clinton people who want us to be low key, nice, pansy-like. And apparently Kerry was drifting again over to their side (come on John, how many goddamn times to you have to fire people like that to get the picture?!). Hopefully, once John lost his cool yesterday that bells went off and they can see by newspapers, etc. today that he not only made news but did damage to Bush. He has to flush these old Clinton people and he better run like a son of a bitch back to Cahill and the "Kennedy" approach. Honey, it's our failure as much as the American public's stupidity at fault here. We either wise up or we are dead before we even begin to fight.

[trumad]

20. Although I disagree that his campaign has sucked

I do agree that John needs to beat Bush over the head daily.

[kcordell]

22. You May Be Right

Those people who think they know everything are making it awfully difficult for those of us who do.

[neoteric lefty]

23. old George Carlin joke...

(i think it was his) think of how stupid the average schmuck is. Now realize that half the population is dumber than him. That shows you how f*cked up we are.

[Muddleoftheroad]

25. Not elitist

Just think you're better than everybody else? Not exactly slogans that win elections.

[trumad]

26. Politically..Yes, I do think that I'm smarter than half the U.S population

And I'll stand by that statement with confidence!

[Muddleoftheroad]

29. Smarter doesn't always mean having common sense

Look at Colin Powell. Here's obviously smart, but...

[trumad]

32. And a Moron American has Common Sense based on what?

Faux, CNN?

[Muddleoftheroad]

33. Again, your honesty is refreshing

At least it's nice to see someone who isn't afraid to show their complete disdain for ordinary working people.

[trumad]

44. Are you fucking serious?

Did I say that I have disdain for "ordinary working people"? Where did I say that... Guess what Bub..I'm an ordinary working person, and so is my wife and so are a whole bunch of other Americans who take a couple of minutes each day to understand WTF is going on around them. You're basically defending er Americans who haven't a clue about why this Country is taking a fast turn towards facisim because what? they work!

So if you're an "Ordinary Working Person" I guess that means in your mind that it's OK to be ignorant about what is going on in your own country. :eyes:

[neoteric lefty]

28. I guess the word "joke" didn't

resonate with you, too well. Oh well...

[Muddleoftheroad]

30. It does only when there's humor

Too many people here agree with the sentiment that they are better than the "great unwashed."

[neoteric lefty]

31. I sure didn't say I was better

please take my posts by what they say, not your interpretation. Now, if you excuse me, I have to work for awhile. :damn!:

[Nihil]

34. Sorry, is the problem that the picture is too accurate?

You appear to be the only one using the deliberately inflammatory phrase
"great unwashed" ...

Yes, most of the posters here *are* better than the majority of Bush
supporters for the simple reason that they are capable of independent
thought rather than just swallowing the Fox news (et al) party line
every night, forgetting all of the past cockups/cover-ups and ignoring
everything they are told to by Rove's team of puppet-masters.

Is this view politically incorrect? Maybe.
Is this view factually incorrect? No.

The "smart rock" cartoon is (sadly) still true.

[Muddleoftheroad]

35. I am deliberately using the inflammatory phrase

Because I want to make it obvious what is going on here.

No, thinking you are better than they are is part of the problem in the U.S. They have it. You have it. Nobody listens. Everybody yells. Nothing gets done and the U.S. is mired in chaos.

It is possible to disagree or even disagree wildly with someone and not get caught up with the ego rush of thinking you are their better.

[Nihil]

41. Do you listen forever or do you eventually face up to the facts?

> I am deliberately using the inflammatory phrase
> Because I want to make it obvious what is going on here.

So it's ok for you to be sarcastic but not the original poster? Hmmm

> It is possible to disagree or even disagree wildly with someone and
> not get caught up with the ego rush of thinking you are their better.

Very true. That happens a lot round here. A prerequisite for such a
"agree to disagree" status is that both sides have an element of logic,
a consistent approach, a rationality that allows constructive debate.

On the other hand, when the "great unwashed" (to use your term) refuse
to acknowledge the existance of an alternative, when the efforts to
present logical arguments are met with animalistic irrational ignorance,
that's when people start to question the nature of their opponent.

There comes a point when the struggle is simply one between those
capable of independent thought and those only capable of being led.

Refusal to accept this (i.e., to pretend that there really is no
difference between the two sides) does not make you any wiser.

[trumad]

48. Excellent

[trumad]

47. Disagreement with a Moran goes without exception.

[Butterflies]

27. Yup, they don't bother to find out what is true

I read the other day that the majority of Americans still think Saddam had connections to Osama, and that some (or all) of the 911 hijackers were Iraqi.

[theboss]

37. Except for those who can spell "Moron"

Just sayin'.....

[Butterflies]

38. it's a joke (from that picture of the redneck)

does anyone have it?

[theboss]

39. Oh....never mind

I think I may have just fallen into some kind of irony vortex.

[trumad]

45. It took 37 posts before someone mentioned the spelling of Moran..

LOL... I guess it was driving you batty that everyone was spelling it Moran?

[Failure]

40. I agree 100% plus, look what they did to me on this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1478217

[trumad]

46. Sometimes DU 'ers try to damn hard to be too damn nice.

If it's a pig it's a fucking pig!

[wadestock]

42. Take the Quiz "Between Iraq and a Hard Place" and see

how you do....

Meanwhile you're right....only 11% of Americans read the papers and 1 in 5 are getting their info from talk radio....and you know what Limbaugh is doing to suck the brains out of millions of ditto heads...

We Americans hold our own only through about 4th grade compared to the rest of the industrialized world....then by the time our kids graduate...we're near the bottom.

It's the strongest case in the world for investing in education.

[HEyHEY]

49. Hey, that's a good explanation

My dad keeps calling me an elitist because I make no effort to blend in with the slack-jaw rednecks in this town.

I really don't feel like sitting in a bar listening to them spew redneck diatribe...so sue me

[Name removed]

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[trumad]

51. Kick

The thread was locked earlier and now it aint... GOOD