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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:29 PM
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Bush Suffered A Past 'Seizure' (??)
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:02 PM by Gloria
Picked this up from a Citizens for Legit. Gov. daily forum mailing list (clarification: NOT the official news list they put out)

Report - Bush Suffered A Past 'Seizure'


Report - Bush Suffered
A Past 'Seizure'
Jeff Rense
4-26-4

Report - Bush Suffered A Past 'Seizure'
Address:http://www.rense.com/general52/bsei.htm

If this news story is accurate, the American public is being betrayed
(yet again) at the highest level. Americans have a RIGHT TO KNOW if
their Commander-in-Chief is even remotely incapacitated. This story, if
correct, raises multiple crucial and immediate issues and possibilities
which need to be examined and considered. Such as...

1. Did the famous 'pretzel' dive and resulting bruise have anything to
do with a 'seizure'?

2. If Bush had one 'seizure' who is to say there won't be (weren't?)
more?

3. Could 'seizure' be a polite way of saying TIA or 'mini-stroke'? Such
events often leave some measure of damage...depending on which portion
of the brain was affected. Further, TIAs, once begun, have a habit of
continuing...building up to a major stroke in many cases.

4. Brain strokes are common in cocaine use...especially long-term abuse
and smoking of crack.. The President's behavior falls well within the
medical boundaries of cocaine stroke.

See: http://www.drugabuse.gov/NIDA_Notes/NNVol13N3/Cocaine.html

5. Mental impairment is also a hallmark of HIV infection and is
measurable even from the earliest stages of infection. Usually referred
to as 'AIDS Dementia' it commonly presents as forgetfulness and
confusion. Rumors of Bush's bisexuality and his alleged/whispered
involvement with a longtime pal and mayor of a major Eastern city have
been around for years.

See:
http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Mental/Archive/Reactions/Q8505.html

This report states Bush is said to be taking "oral medication at least
twice a day according to because of an unspecified
'indisposition'." Such an 'indisposition' might well be related to
either of the items above. IF this story is true - and quite clearly
there IS something wrong with President Bush's mental faculties - we
have a national crisis at hand. Bush has steadfastly refused to open his
medical records - a sure indicator there is something to hide.

If Bush should ever lapse into an 'unknown' language when news cams were
rolling, one can only wonder what the results would be...

-Jeff Rense

ORIGINAL STORY.....


Bush 'Seizure' Answer To His Awful

Press Conference Performance?

>From TBR News

4-26-4


"Vice President Cheney is the de facto President of the United States.
When he arrives at the White House for one of his "briefings" of the
President, all employees are cleared from the West Wing and especially
from the Presidential office suites. Cheney arrives in an escorted
armored limousine surrounded by his own personal, heavily armed
bodyguard and is always shown directly into the President's office. It
is reliably reported by that Bush has a thick pad of lined,
yellow note paper on his desk, placed there by just before
the Vice President arrives."

"After Cheney's departure, the notes taken by the President are
transcribed by and prepared as talking points for the
President..."

"At some time in the past, according to both and
the President suffered what one of his aides called "a very minor
seizure" and as a result of this, the President has a very difficult
time following any unscripted conversations. For this reason, his staff
carefully and aggressively protect the President from "unexpected"
questions that he is not capable of answering."

"The President takes oral medication at least twice a day according to
because of an unspecified "indisposition' and this subject is
strictly off limits for any casual staff conversation."

"At one point during a staff conference, the President stood up and
began to speak in an unknown language. Mr. Rove was able to stop the
President and get him to resume his seat. It was reported by
that for a period of time (about fifteen minutes) after this incident,
the President appeared to be 'somewhat confused and very inarticulate.'"

"White House staff members report that they rarely see the President
during work hours and that when they do, he is generally accompanied by
Mr. Rove and almost never either looks at or speaks to members of the
staff. He does not appear to recognize many of the staff members and
almost all contact with these individuals are carried out by his close
aides, especially by Mr. Rove."

(SNIP)

Most of the staff are young, dedicated, almost fanatical, and very, very
Christian. The Ten Commandments are in each and every office with nice
pictures of Jesus accompanying them. I have chatted up a few of these
bright-faced kids and find out that they Love Jesus, Hate Gays,
Abortionists, Moslems, Blacks, Catholics, some Jews, all Democrats,
Liberals, Hindus, Chinese, Frenchmen, Germans, and now, Spaniards.

(MORE)
__________


The following comment appears on PrisonPlanet.com with the above TBR
news story

Note: The following material is from a reporter with access to the White House and Presidential press briefings. Some of this material has
surfaced before but only in small segments. If any of this is true and
not the product of an unhappy person, we are all in serious trouble.
-ed.

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042504bushseizure.htm



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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:43 PM
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yeah i read that yesterday
so it apparentLy wasn't a pretzeL.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:43 PM
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1. Is it possible that Bush * suffers from aphasia?
He certainly seems to have some major difficulties with language production. Any doctors out there?

Check out this list of aphasic behaviors -- some of them sure sound like our boy-king:
Behaviors of Aphasic Patients


Anomia-problem with word finding. They know what they want to say but can't find the words to say it. Sometimes they can be cued or recall by gestures.
Paraphasia-use of word substitutions; may use a word that sounds like the target word, or may use a word that means something similar.
Neologism-Use made-up words confidently as though they were the correct word.
Agrammatism-Leave out the function words, use broken speech; common in non-fluent aphasic patients.
Jargon-Convincing, fluent speech; irrelevant and has no meaning.
Verbal Stereotypes-have a few words or sentences that they use over and over again to answer every question. ........ http://webpages.marshall.edu/~lynch4/Aphasia.html
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:58 PM
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10. Verbal sterotypes
You know, I think you might just be on to something here. During his awful press conference (not the one with Tony Blair) where he went back over and over and over again to the "war on terra," I noticed this.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:48 PM
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2. IMO, A Rumor... And Since The Far Right Certainly Knows
how to spread them... it seem perfectly reasonable for the Left to spread this one around!

Too bad we don't have the mediawhores available the way the Right does to help legitimize the story though.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:50 PM
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3. naw... just a polite euphemism for a drunken blackout
:)
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:53 PM
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4. Cool! Speaking in tongues.
My evangelical friend would be very impressed! She belongs to a church where they roll on the floor and talk in tongues. George would be a definite hit at her church.

Seriously though, what on earth has happened to our country? That a man who is very clearly not in control of his faculties, is "governing" this country. And he is surrounded by a group of rogues who are using his position for their own agendas.

Shocking isn't the word. The real question is, is George W. deteriorating? I saw George's most recent press conference, and he was in bad shape. They covered it here on the DU. He sounded like a mynah bird, just parroting what he had to say. The whole thing gives me the creeps.

In that case, how ON EARTH do they expect this man and his sidekick who has a huge hole in his heart, who also is a known alcoholic, to run again.

There are no words to describe this. And believe me, I try. Thanks for posting, Gloria.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:53 PM
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5. Seizure disorders certainly don't precluded one
from performing at a high level, but if, say, a young hot shot pilot were to suffer a seizure he would be instantly and irrevocably grounded from flying his plane. And, a seizure disorder could result in the loss of one's driver's license.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:56 PM
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6. Or this tinfoil hat perspective:
Suppose this whole story was fabricated by the White House to justify Cheney's role as de facto president? As in, "How dare you pick on President Bush when he's sick?"

I know, it doesn't explain the pretzel incident, but I'm just throwing it out there. Personally, I'd believe the blackouts are a consequence of his irresponsible youth, but who knows.
:tinfoilhat:
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:49 PM
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9. That has been THE preferred M.O.
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 02:10 PM by loyalsister
The poor dumb guy shouldn't be questioned too harshly.
Now that he's facing questions, he's a "poor sick guy." Ugh!!!
This is such an insult to people with disabilities and people with Seizure Disorders!!
Painting this guy as helpless has been strategy because that is how they avoid people examining the fact that he is arrogant and mean. A "dumb, helpless, now sick" guy can't possibly be in control.
They are pulling ou this card now that Woodward has asserted that he has been. That is exactly what they want to avoid. With the dumb guy in charge, when things go wrong it can look like slapstick accidents we didn't mean to get into. tHAT'S WHAT THEY WANT BACK WITH THE SICK GUY IN CHARGE. THINK people!
When we discover that this dumb guy is cunning and fooling the public and world we see something darker. Not knowing things isn't the same as being naturally dumb. We have got to give him some responsibility. The questions he needs to be asked now need to be those that will reveal his meanness and arrogance. THAT would be his undoing. He is too full of himself to let some things get in his way. Question his "goodness," "righteousness," "godliness," and very "natural superiority" to everyone else.
He is much smarter than we have given him credit for. For example, I think it is pretty cunning that there are particular people who he didn't ask. He KNEW who not to ask to avoid deliberatly knowing things.
He KNEW to be the guy who questioned the war.
Why isn't the press asking why he proceeded when he had questions? Question his manhood!!!! Why wasn't he STRONG enough to avoid it when he had questions. We would hear answers that would rival some of the nuttinest we have seen in history!
The left has to give up on dumb! He is a CON ARTIST!
I firmly believe that there are "mythologies" that have been designed explicitly for the left to perpetuate. While there is history behind them, it was intended for the left to pick up these stories and keep them going for Bush because it would benefit him in the end.
Karl Rove was the source for the cocaine story. The author of the book revealed that shortly before he died.
Don't forget the cocaine snorting yuppies from the 80s are the ones who sympathize. And you have another helpless tale.
Regardless of negativity the addict is "slave" to something else. HELPLESSNESS.
The thing to remember about W is his personality is almost entirely contrived. He went to prep school and college in the East and somehow missed all of Bab's manners lessons? The Texas persona is one he developed after moving there. The "dumb" persona is something he uses to get what he wants. He doesn't believe he needs to learn things. He is above it. He can do whatever the hell he wants without finding out information about it AND he will say all the right things to get what he wants.
The thing that drove him to war has nothing to do with information because it isn't relevant to him. He believes he has a devine purpose and that is all that matters. That is what Woodward's book reveals, and we have to stop trying to put W into our world, because that is NOT where he lives in his mind. The press has to force him to entertain the possibility that he does. It will disturb him mightily, and he will exhibit a contempt for the world few ever see from anyone. THAT is a narcissist!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:05 PM
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7. Very early on , didn't he also have a heart event??? Remember, all
the doctors on TV? "Brachyardia" or something like that (I don't know how to spell it)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:06 PM
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8. Common to prescription drug addicts
With all of Imperial Amerika's medical Industry as his pharmacopeia, it is almost without question that Bunnypants* is frequently high as a kite.
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