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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:39 PM
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Will getting Shrub out be enough?
OK, say things go well and we have President Kerry in Jan 05. Now what? What happens to the neocons? Do we just let them wait and regroup till 06 and 08 to purpotrate the same bullshit they do now? Do we just let them sit back and collect their war dividends?

My opinion is no, just getting Shrub out isn't enough. The neocons must be held accountable for the crimes they are commiting. Kerry can't just squeek by...he needs a mandate.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:40 PM
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1. who knows
but it's a start
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:42 PM
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2. No, we have to really work hard at taking back
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 05:43 PM by Cleita
Congress and changing the face of the Supreme court. Then we need to get some hard to revoke ammendments in the Constitution to make sure no one like Bush ever becomes President again.

Of course nothing like this will happen because the Washington establishment is part of the problem and Kerry is one of them.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:58 PM
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6. What amendments
do you want to revoke? I'm a little confused here.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:04 PM
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8. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems we need to change the way we
do elections and since this is kind of a constitutional issue, it seems an ammendment or two would be in order. I also think we need to delineate more clearly our reasons to go to war. Apparently raiding other countries for their mineral wealth was not what the founding fathers had in mind, so it needs to be made very clear under what circumstances we will go to war.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:42 PM
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3. No the PNACers and Neocons need to go also...
But yes it would be a good start!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:45 PM
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4. No. It's gonna take a revolution.
Shutting down the corporate propaganda machine is a good start...
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:45 PM
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5. Getting this administration out is step one
then the real work begins. These guys won't go softly into the night and will never admit defeat. They are going to have to be squished like a cockroach. And that will mean over and over.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:03 PM
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7. If this country wants to regain its position
...in the world community, we will have to bring Bush and his team of thugs, incompetents, thieves, crackpot ideologues and relgious nutballs to justice. That means we will have to regain control of Congress and put pressure on the Justice Department to start to investigate and act.

(My guess is that the first 4 years after we rid ourselves of Bush will be devoted to finding out just how much they stole, and who stole it.)

Only by demonstrating to the world that the Bush gang was an aberration and not the norm for the US will we begin to mend a few fences and regain the trust of former friends. There are no shortcuts, and there is no other way.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:06 PM
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9. Why can't we get the Iraqis to kidnap them one by one and
then put them on trial, like the Israelis did to the Nazis that escaped justice at Nuremburg.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:11 PM
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12. Yea! we can get the Carter Center
to train "Neocon hunters" to track them down!
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:10 PM
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11. Exactly. The rest of the world
...isn't going to be satisfied with holding it's collective breath every four years to see if Shrub part III comes back. Once they're gone, it has to be permanent for this bunch. The only way to do that, (besides death) is to convict them for their crimes, and lock 'em up.

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 06:09 PM
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10. No, it's not enough.
There needs to be international trials, judicial impeachments and trials, new media laws passed, etc. What has occured and is going to possibly occur is not just politics as usual. Clean-up isn't going to be easy at all, but is vital to our survival.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 07:35 PM
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13. We need a REAL investigation of 911
I think that once the truth is out about that, they are destroyed.
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 07:38 PM
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14. No, all of the them need to be taken DOWN!
Work to kick the Republican's asses out of power, federal, in the statehouses, in city hall, in social clubs, in churches, off school boards, turn over every rotten piece of social fabric chase the cockroaches out.
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