59millionmorons
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:30 PM
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It's over Specter in a landslide. |
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Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 09:31 PM by demdem
Not sure if I am happy or sad. I believe I am happy because the national review and Freerepublic posters were rooting for Toomey. http://www.nbc10.com/politics/3242632/detail.html
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:31 PM
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It was 60% Spector 40% Toomey the last I saw.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:33 PM
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huge change!
It was 52/48 a few minutes ago.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:45 PM
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From WNEP in WIlkes-Barre/Scranton. The local news will be on in a little bit and I'll see what they say then.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:32 PM
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There are still 41% of the precincts to be counted. A race is not "over" just because somebody said so.
We should have learned that lesson by now.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:41 PM
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You remind me of that picture I saw a few years ago when the frog was in the ducks throat only with his legs resting outside of the ducks mouth and the caption read never give up. Sorry it's over, but I admire your optimism.
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Tue Apr-27-04 10:50 PM
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40. Ribbitt, Ribbitt, less than 5K apart |
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I'm sorry but, think you should apologize to bluestateguy, man
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Tue Apr-27-04 10:53 PM
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There was an 95.000 error in Bucks county. Pay attention.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:42 PM
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13. I think it's pretty much done. |
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I watched primary results come in for Iowa, New Hampshire, and several other states. Except in the really really close ties - within a handful of votes - the percentages pretty much were the same throughout the night. There's no reason to believe that Toomey will take enough of the remaining precincts to overcome Specter's lead.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:33 PM
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At least there's not a CHANCE that we'd have another looney in congress!
Whew!
:kick:
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:39 PM
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6. Spector is not a looney? What is he, then? |
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:41 PM
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7. He's a moderate Republican |
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in the mold of Nelson Rockefeller.
Believe me, we'd all be a helluva lot better off if there were more Republicans like him.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:41 PM
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while he can be a jerk at times, at least he's sane most of the time.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:44 PM
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Toomey is a scary fundie - can't imagine why anyone here would want him to win, unless it has to do with best choice against.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:45 PM
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Toomey would get blown out of the water. Don't worry about Santorum, we have a much stronger candidate than the one he faced.
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Tue Apr-27-04 11:04 PM
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43. who(m) would that be? |
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I gave money to my brother's old boss who ran against Santorum last time around and there was no, like no support for him. It was aggravating! (plus he has some pretty conservative views as well)
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:41 PM
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9. he's not as loony as toomey is. |
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:44 PM
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17. Spector is very definitely the much lesser of |
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two GOP evils in that race.
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Tue Apr-27-04 11:01 PM
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42. The number's I've seen indicate a tight race! |
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50/50 with over 89% of the precincts reporting.
Why is anyone here hoping that Spector wins. He is the lesser of two evils, but Hoeffel can beat Toomey. I don't think he can beat Spector, who will run as an incumbant.
We should be hopeful that the wingnuts on the far right are trying to "send a message" to Shrub by voting out Spector, who Shrub has endorsed. Then we win big in the general election, and thake 21 electoral votes too!
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:38 PM
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5. good! keeping my fingers crossed! |
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Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 09:40 PM by drumwolf
Many people think that a Toomey win in the primary would have actually helped the Dems, but I don't think that's necessarily a safe assumption to make. If Pennsylvania could elect someone like Santorum, what makes anyone think they wouldn't elect Toomey?
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:43 PM
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he originally won in 1994, enough said, and in 2000 he had a very weak opponent. Extremely uncharismatic, horrible at fundraising, and was pro-life and pro-gun which jived very poorly with suburban voters. And yet he still came pretty close.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:50 PM
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25. Klink wasn't the best opponent for Santorum |
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he was pro-life, pro-gun, and a very conservative Dem...it was like we found the closet thing to Santorum and ran him...and the voters didn't see a difference.
PAers are very libertarian about personal rights..abortion, guns etc... and so a pro-choice, pro-gun candidate is a winner...
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:49 PM
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23. I believe you are looking at it wrong. Look at Santorum's wins. 94 a |
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great year for Republicans and weak and old opponent(Wofer) . Dems had weak candidates both times-(Klink Why do dems choose weird named people in that state)- last time he ran in 2000, he faced a very divided Democratic Party. We would have been better off if Specter lost. Look for him to turn right to convince the Toomey voters that he is at least worth keeping- it will also mean that Bush will be paying more attention to this state (esp if Toomey gets in the low to mid 40s)..
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Tue Apr-27-04 10:07 PM
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The existence of Santorum gives me very little faith that things would turn out well if Toomey was the nominee.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:41 PM
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10. It doesn't bother me either way |
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I was willing to take the risk with Toomey winning, though. Could always move away from PA.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:41 PM
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11. It's tightened up again. 52% Spector/48% Toomey with 64% in. |
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:42 PM
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:45 PM
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very strange.... the 59/41 number must've been an error.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:46 PM
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:48 PM
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22. I noticed that. With 64% in, one says that it's a 10 point margin... |
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for Spector while the other says it's a tossup!
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:49 PM
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the likely explanation is just a clerical error when trying to do real-time reporting of returns.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:50 PM
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26. Bucks County reported 95,000 false votes for Specter. |
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:53 PM
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Just wait until November.
An extra million here for chimpy, an extra million there....
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:55 PM
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30. CBS - 71% - Specter 52% (297,186 votes) to Toomey 48% |
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Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 09:55 PM by papau
Precincts Reporting: 6656 Of 9416 71%
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Winner Candidate Party Incumbent Votes Vote % Arlen Specter Republican 297,186 52% Pat Toomey Republican 279,220 48%
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:57 PM
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Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 09:58 PM by papau
73%
Winner Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote % Arlen SPECTER X 315,745 52% Pat TOOMEY 296,175 48%
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:52 PM
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28. There's a significant difference in returns listed on different sites |
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:57 PM
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brief anomaly, quickly fixed. Still 52/48 with 73% reporting.
I think it was just a clerical error that was quickly fixed.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:55 PM
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31. Both sites now read the same. |
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getting tight. They must of gotten bad info on nbc10.
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:55 PM
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32. They are reporting tight race on CNN (for whatever that is worth) eom |
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Tue Apr-27-04 09:59 PM
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35. And all of Pennsylvania's dogs |
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heave a huge sigh of relief.
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Tue Apr-27-04 10:06 PM
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I'll take this as good news. Who wants to see a big turn out of RW'ers in any election.
This means that moderates are motivated. This can only be good for Kerry. There are some moderate R's that will pull the lever for President Kerry in November.
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Tue Apr-27-04 10:30 PM
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38. Even more would if ,Spector loses tonight. If you want moderate "Rs" |
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to be motivated, think how motivated they would be in the general election if Specter were to lose.
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Tue Apr-27-04 10:37 PM
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39. I'm easily confused, but the link says "too close to call' 51/49 |
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now what exactly is a landslide?
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Tue Apr-27-04 11:15 PM
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44. 10,000 votes up for Specter 50/50 |
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with the center of the state not totally counted. Yikes. What is the problem with this state?
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Tue Apr-27-04 11:25 PM
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45. Not looking good at all. 96% reporting Spector 51-49 n/t |
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Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 11:25 PM by napi21
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