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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:17 PM
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NBC Pittsburgh: Spector 50% / Toomey 49%
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:20 PM
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1. Jesus F Christ
Whayt a humiliating upset that would be for the BFEE....

Give 'em hell, Toomey!
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:21 PM
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3. It *may* happen
The precincts that have yet to report are rural, and may well go Toomey's way.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:22 PM
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4. If Toomey pulls this off, we can say hello to both a big blow to *
and Senator Hoeffel!
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:27 PM
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12. Another good thing is that this may help convince moderate Republicans
that they have no future in the GOP and to come over to the Democratic Party. Then we will gain reliable voters and can tell the ultra left to just go away. Gawd, I hope Toomey wins tonight, I think this will be the wake up call if MR. Moderate Republican loses tonight.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:29 PM
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13. and watch nader go from 4% to 9 or 10% <nt>
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:35 PM
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14. More than make up for those that would go to Nader. They are unreliable
anyway. Village Voice article was another straw on this camel's back. The ultra left can kiss my ass, I have come to realize that they are not serious about gaining political power for those they claim they represent. I want to help people go forward, to hell with em.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:11 PM
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38. Note: The VillageVoice guy wrote the same exact article in 2000 about Gore
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:22 AM
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41. That attitude is why nader will geet more than 2.7 million votes
and the dems will continuously complain when more people break, and still act like a monkey with his head in the sand, while his pack moves on. The party elite could learn a thing or two from bush, he is appealing to the far right to no end. Hence less votes for the offshoots, in fact other than the conservative party and prohibition party which will get about 2,000 votes nationwide, they have no one to worry about, while about 6-10 million votes will be cast for nader this year, whom i dont support (as of yet-still doing research)
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:01 PM
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35. pretty hard to do w/o Nader on the ballot...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:48 PM
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26. I'm sorry. "Reliable" voters? Republicans?
Reliable in what sense?

And how NICE of you to plan on dumping the entire left wing of our party.

Didn't the Republicans do that under Nixon? And look what they became.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:56 PM
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30. They are the ones doing the dumping . They are for the most part
worthless. Note: I said ULTRA left wing. All they do is complain- they are not serious about obtaining real political power. Any reading of the threads and the post here should have told you that by now. I am not going to walk on egg shells around them anymore.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:52 PM
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27. Ultra left?
Right, because we don't want a big party with many ideas. Fuck it, lets merge with the republicans now.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:01 PM
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36. They are not in the Party anyway - and just sit around and complain and
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 11:11 PM by Prodemsouth
accomplish nothing. You are not reading all of what I am saying, they have accomplished nothing for those that they claim to represent. I think more could be accomplished if the more progessive wing of the Republican party were to leave and join the Democratic party.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:24 PM
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10. Go Toomey!
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:21 PM
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2. that's impossible
they're the only two candidates, therefore the total must add up to 100%.
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:23 PM
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5. your talking about Repug math here....
fuzzy math is what they are good at, you know that
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:23 PM
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6. Write-ins/undercounts <nt>
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:24 PM
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9. and rounding
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:24 PM
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8. two things
One is rounding error. The other is people writing in other people. Those ballots do get counted in at least some places.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:23 PM
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7. wow!
This is actually getting to be a nail biter!
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:26 PM
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11. Check out the 9th, too!
U.S. House 9th District (R)

Candidate Votes Percent
Bill Shuster* 25,082 49%
Michael DelGrosso 25,750 51%

Precincts Reporting - 73%


http://www.wpxi.com/politics/3240344/detail.html
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:37 PM
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15. I so much want Delgrosso to win.
I hate Shister... I mean Shuster.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:41 PM
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16. Unfortunately this is a safely Republican district
But Shuster losing is still good to us. It's a blow to the Republican establishment and DelGrosso would have less clout. Also he might turn out to be slightly more tolerable than Shuster, and he couldn't be worse.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:42 PM
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17. Now 50-50, Spector by 6000
whoa, Bush may be in serious trouble in PA.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:43 PM
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18. 81% in, 50/50, Specter up by 6000 votes
Arlen Specter* 356,554 50%
Pat Toomey 350,140 50%

http://www.wpxi.com/politics/3240392/detail.html
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:43 PM
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19. 85% in and it's a 5000 vote lead for Spector.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:44 PM
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21. Now 5000
eeeek
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:43 PM
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20. 50-50 now -- 388,254 to 383,339
n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:46 PM
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22. Can only Republicans vote in this?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:48 PM
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24. Yes. In Pa. you can only vote in your registered party. n/t
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:48 PM
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25. Yes
It's a closed Republican primary.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:57 PM
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31. Going the other way now. 8000 votes seperation. 88%
All depends on what precincts no in.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:47 PM
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23. It's 50 -50 now Specter up by about 6400 votes: 81% in
Specter has been steadily losing ground, if this keeps up he is going to lose. A lot of votes still out.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:53 PM
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28. Specter up by less than 5000 votes, 85% in,
Shuster up by about 500 votes in his congressional race. What's going on in PA?
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:55 PM
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29. oooops Spector back up 8000
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:58 PM
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33. Shuster's lead over DelGrosso down to 289 votes
Looks like Specter may be pulling it out but still a lot of votes out.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:57 PM
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32. How strong is the Democratic candidate who is also running
for Spector's seat. Do the Dems even stand a chance in November?

I live in Florida, but I have family in Pennsylvania. Lehigh Valley.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:01 PM
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34. How many Dems changed their registration
just to vote for Spector?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:02 PM
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37. Dems have a good candidate
Should have a shot at a bloodied Specter - particularly if enough Toomey supporters don't vote for Specter.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:21 PM
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39. With 96 percent of the precincts
Specter has a 16,000 vote lead.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:26 PM
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40. Shuster/DelGrosso returns stalled at 80%
with Shuster up by 289 votes. Do we have a Florida situation developing? Anyone know what is going on in that district? I know it is Altoona but why are they so slow?
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