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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:44 PM
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CNN poll: 36% are not upset after seeing torture pics. WTF???
http://www.cnn.com/

Were you upset by pictures that appear to show Iraqi detainees being abused by U.S. troops?

64% yes
36% no

Who are those f*cking 36%??? How can you not be upset. What about the broader consequences of more soldiers being in danger now because of that BS.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:46 PM
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1. They are the 30+ % who would vote for Bush, if he
hacked Laura to death with a machete...on the Today Show..:)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:12 PM
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36. or caught in bed with a dead woman
or a live boy.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:22 PM
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41. Yeah,Or got a DUI....oh wait,that REALLY happened....
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:46 PM
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2. Poll says 36% of CNN viewers are S&M lovin' doodie-heads.
:crazy:
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:46 PM
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3. Nazis.
If you'd shown pictures of concentration camps to Germans in 1940 I'm sure 36% of them wouldn't be upset.
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:47 PM
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4. Let's see, 35% of Americans say they are repugs
odd how that number matches up with No.

Sure it is just a coincidence.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:47 PM
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5. Those are the hard-core Bush base - it's amazing how many
fucking bush ass licking psychos we have, but it's true. Even if they were upset, they wouldn't dare say so. They are good little brownshirt Nazis...
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Red_Viking Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:48 PM
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6. Ugh
These are the same bed-wetters who believe Saddam had a hand in 9/11, and our glorious leader was sent by God and a Crisco-slathered Ashcroft to rid the world of evil brown people.

Remember, the average IQ is 100. However many standard deviations you are above, there is someone balancing you out in the other direction. Sigh.

:dem:

RV
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:48 PM
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7. That's the coolaide drinkers. Ditto heads, freepers, callers to
Hanity, Savage, Beck, Rush, Inghram et. al.
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clonebot Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:52 PM
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14. rush callers
my dad is a very very moderate republican trial attorney in san francisco - he tried to call into rush's show several years ago.. the second after he responded "attorney" when they asked for his occupation the line went dead. poor rush can't handle those pesky moderate lawyers.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:56 PM
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21. I would love to hear someone who can hold their own on those shows.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:50 PM
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8. "Are you a total ignoramus who'd support Chimpy's war no matter what?"
That'd get the same results.
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:50 PM
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9. Radical Right Bigots n/t
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:51 PM
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10. Most likely ...
... ugly American sheeple.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:52 PM
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11. That must be roughly the percentage of people who tortured animals
when they were young (like * did). They completely missed the empathy development phase of their childhood.
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:59 PM
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24. They never had empathy, being cruel is fun for them.
The don't have a sense of humor, none of them do. The only laughs they get is when they see humilation and torture.
They are the people who laugh whens someone falls down.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:52 PM
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12. The 36% who think it's a pilot for a new reality show...
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 12:52 PM by rezmutt
To them, it probably comes across as "Fear Factor" morphed into "Jackass."

edit: typos
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:52 PM
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13. That 36% is the bunch who would participate in torturing prisoners
unfuckingbelievable!
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:52 PM
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15. $100, $200, $1,000 for Wolf from the RNC!
Way to rig a poll!
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:53 PM
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16. Mouth breathers...


Basically the drunk uncles of AMerica, applauding the "payback"..oblivious to the fact that we have killed over 10,000 civilians.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:53 PM
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17. hmmm how nice
similar statistic to Germany and ahem, Hitler's base.

Is this a coincidence? NOPE
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:53 PM
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18. More psychopaths that I thought
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 12:54 PM by bloom
"One famous brain imaging study showed that psychopaths can remain calm looking photos of dead bodies in automobile accidents where as other people were clearly upset. They don't use their brain they way others do. This suggests that they may be physically different from normal people."

http://www.crisiscounseling.com/Articles/Psychopath.htm
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:53 PM
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19. 36% need to go
to see the wizard and get a heart.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:58 PM
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23. not to throw cold water on this
but couldnt it be that some people, not all, but some, could read the question in such a way as to think they were asking:

Are you upset these pictures were shown?

In other words, I wonder how many people answering the poll thought they were answering whether showing the pics made them upset, or what the pics showed were upsetting.

I suspect that the real number is lower than 36% (now 37%) who aren't upset by what the pics showed, I further suspect some of the people who answered either way didnt even see the pics.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:12 PM
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37. The question seems pretty clear to me. Even if some people
misunderstood the question, 36% is unbelievably high.

Lots of people outside our country go to CNN to check the news. A poll that shows that 36% of Americans give a sh*t about Iraqis being tortured and raped is adding just fuel to the fire.

If the right-wing idiots think it is cool to freep a poll like that, it just shows what f*cking brainless morons (morans) they really are.
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cynic4life Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:54 PM
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20. Maybe they should change the poll to
Are you a moraless scumbag? do you think the 36% would still say yes?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:58 PM
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22. When you go to war
The first step is to dehumanise the enemy. In doing so you enable atrocities to be committed in the name of people who would never imagine doing these acts to a human.

This is the reason war can never be sanitized. If we allow them to pull the blinders over our eyes we enable them to recreate the horror not just of WWII but ever further back the dark ages.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:06 PM
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30. what is horrifying to me
is what a human body can go through and still live.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:07 PM
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32. The "funny" thing about this Iraq War
was that Saddam was dehumanized, his sons were, but if the rest of the Iraqis were dehumanized - I must have missed that.



Recently there was the spectacle of the mercenaries, and that does seem to have more people thinking of them as enemies....

I actually worry when they start having more coverage of the US dead - that it will be twisted into dehumanizing Iraqis.

I think it does dehumanize Iraqis to not even estimate how many we have killed. As if it doesn't matter. (IGNOREance).
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:09 PM
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34. Islam got dehumanised
Those 36% that are not bothered by the photoes probably would not be bothered if we decided to turn any Islamic nation into a plain of glass (nuke dropping reference).
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:02 PM
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25. the ones that say nuke em all
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 01:03 PM by seabeyond
the ones that talk family values and christian morality as they teach their children to hate. the ones that are so arrogant to say better the innocent in iraq die than here on american soil as they go to church and worship on wed and sunday. the same ones that made such a deal about clintons blow job as they stay drunk, are on their fourth wife and umpteenth mistress, steal, lie all the while pointing finger at others
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:02 PM
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26. 36% will vote for Facist Bush!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:03 PM
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27. The same 36% that thought Janet's boob was evil
and will scar their kids for life. I call them the "out of whack-ers".
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:04 PM
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28. Everyone who saw a recent movie where a guy gets tortured for 2 hours
Ok, maybe not everyone who saw, but the people who really, really liked it. And not in a spiritually uplifting kind of way.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:04 PM
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29. To be honest
I'm surprise the number is not higher. That's how little faith I have in my fellow citizens right now.

But what I really don't get is don't you think the freepers who tend to be homophobes would be at least a little squeamisih about the naked asses?
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:06 PM
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31. Well, they would have been upset if someone showed a nipple
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:08 PM
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33. Lets see... 36% mmmmn?
15% long time republicans (Their granddad voted GOP, their Dad voted GOP, They vote GOP.)
10% Functioning Idiots
5% Neo-Nazi's or Unreformed Nazi's
4% Insane
2% Criminally Insane
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:10 PM
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35. That's this same 36%
Only 36% of Tom Delay's voters have a favorable opinion of him. This pretty much fits the rule of thumb or 30% of the electorate are RW nuts.

http://www.morrisonfor22.com/news/pr040429.html
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:14 PM
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38. Freeper assholes
Sick, twisted, freaks the whole lot of them.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:14 PM
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39. 37% now
the Freepers are defending their nazi ways. Even their Furer doesn't agree with them! (publicly, anyhow).
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:19 PM
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40. Yes, and supposedly these would be the "we support our troops"
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 01:21 PM by Generator
most adamantly types. Don't they know these pictures are being shown all over the ME and in Iraq? This puts our troops in more danger because of these few sickos. Are they hoping for our soldiers to be treated like that?

And NOW the whole point of this war is not WMD, but to show that we are giving freedom to 25 million people, but apparently not everyone deserves human rights. It's one of the worst things that could possibly happen for any chances we HAD in Iraq, in my opinion.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:24 PM
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42. Here's a disturbing thought - the CNN poll usually tracks to the left
of the "scientific" polls.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:25 PM
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43. WTF---the SAME 36% that keep bringing up SH torture and RAPE rooms?!?!?!
Now its OK if US troops pull the same shit?!?!

The total,unbelievable,flaming,steaming hypocrisy of those asses on a daily basis is beyond belief....

David
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:27 PM
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44. don't get me wrong...
i'm upset about the pictures, but we can't expect EVERYONE to be upset about it... especially after seeing videos of american hostages being decapitated (danieal pearl) or capped in the head. the whole "charred remains chopped up and hung on a bridge" probably had alot to do with 36% not being upset too. they see images like that and they believe that everyone held in captivity are the same people who did those horrible things to our countrymen.

america is supposed to be the shining beacon of hope and virtuous piety when it comes to warfare -- we don't torture, we don't kill civilians etc -- but that's obviously not the case now. some people just don't want to realize that.

just my $.02
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:30 PM
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45. They are the fascists. They will vote Bush no matter what he does
He could come out today and announce that he knowingly and willingly allowed 9/11 to happen in order to boost his approval ratings and force us into a climate a war and fear, and these 35% would still support him.

Simply put, when given a choice between Bush and America, they would protect Bush. They love him and the GOP more than this country. Their idea of patriotism is their twisted form of nationalistic bullshit and hero worship of a drunken idiot.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:31 PM
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46. Disappointed but not surprised
I still remember the public reactions after the My Lai massacre ("Those kids would only have grown up to be Communists anyway," said one proto-freeper) and the Kent State shootings ("That's what they get for being unpatriotic," said another proto-freeper.)

Sad to say, a certain percentage of the U.S. population is sadistic, authoritarian assholes.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:33 PM
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47. You are seeing the basis of the culture war we are embroiled in
Those thate believe there is RIGHT and there is WRONG. If you are not RIGHT then you are EVIL. If you are EVIL it is time those that are RIGHT and GOOD deal with you. EVIL cannot be allowed to fester in this world and must be DESTROYED.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:47 PM
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48. its the same 30 that believe interracial marriage is just plain wrong
Gosh are you people forgetting that it was only on Nov 7 2000 that Alabama struck down laws prohibiting interracial marriage.

http://www.majorcox.com/columns/penricks.htm
snip
Alabama is 75 percent white and 25 percent black. Polls suggest the measure will pass, but with substantial opposition.

Last month, a Mobile Register poll found 64 percent in favor and 19 percent opposed. The rest were undecided or not planning to vote. Capital Survey Research found 53 percent in favor and 30 percent opposed.

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