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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:21 PM
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A "debate" with a freeper type
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 02:23 PM by wicket
I hate to call it a debate since it was mostly a barrage of insults thrown at me from him, but you can read my round-up of it on my blog, which includes the backstory and links to his moronic attacks on me. I was completely cordial and he leapt right into the insults including:

-first, equating all pro-choicers with murderers
-I'm a god damn idiot
-a fucking moron
-I live under a "fucking rock"
-a dumbass
-FOAD, an acronym for "Fuck Off And Die"
-I'm "not important"
-"Even shit like you should enjoy life now and then."
-that I have "limited comprehension"
-supporting abortion is no different from supporting terrorism

BLEH!
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:24 PM
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1. Ask HIM (i can tell by the language) whether he believes
in capital punishment?

Then walk away. He sounds dangerous to me.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:29 PM
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4. Good point
Someone else had actually brought that up in the debate and he was just like the same old mantra- "abortion takes an innocent life, the death penalty does not". Whatever!
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SpartacusSC Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:34 PM
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7. HIM?
A Finnish Glam-goth band responded to that? To quote the bard Reeves: "Whoa! Duuuuuude."

Don't let their love of knee-jerk stereotyping turn you into a knee-jerk stereotyper....that could have been an unwashed biker chick, or even Ann Coulter incognito. ;)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:37 PM
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8. Well
The guy's name was Dave so I kinda assumed hehehe :D
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SpartacusSC Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:39 PM
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11. Sorry was replying to Iceberg's I can tell ..........
Dave is indeed a dead give away. :D
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:08 PM
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15. No problem :)
Though I did once know a woman name Vincent, so name is not always an indicator, heh :)
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:27 PM
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2. This really underscores the importance of being polite,
when sensitive issues like abortion are discussed. Thanks for the timely reminder we can all use from time to time.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:30 PM
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5. exactly
I was being cordial and polite and then he immediately flew into the insults. Ugh!
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:28 PM
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3. Why bother,
sparing with such a "Master debator"?
Heh...
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:31 PM
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6. LOL!
:) As soon as he called all pro-choice supporters murderers, I didn't respond because I knew the debate was over (how can you debate with someone who has such skewed thinking), and that's when he started with the insults. I think he's been listening to Rush too much hehe :)
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:39 PM
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9. I make it a policy
to never argue with drunks or fools which on occasion happen to be one and the same.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:52 PM
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19. I think I should start following that policy
:D
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:39 PM
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10. What passes for debate
is a mixture of flat out insults, ad hominem attacks, red herrings, complex questions, straw men, ... I could go on. Occasionally someone will make a valid point.

It can be amusing going line by line pointing out every single logical fallacy.

I love the nizkor site, btw. Very useful.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:27 PM
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17. Nizkor
Glad you liked the Nizkor site, I use to constantly when debating freeper types to try to keep them honest! :D
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:42 PM
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12. That's why I avoid debate with Brownshirt Monsters
(and I would like to specify that I'm no Tough Guy, just an average duDe who has reached his breaking point for tolerating Bushevik Bullshit )

I have no desire for a converstaion which is most likely to wind up in the alley. In which case one of two things will most assuredly happen:

1) Arrest for assault
2) Getting my ass kicked (however, I'm so angry and so spine-stiffened lately, they might have to beat me within an inch of my life to keep me down, and that would most definitely be worse than a garden-variety ass-kicking)

I just avoid talking to them. OTOH, I have also made a personal vow to NEVER allow Bushevik Lies to pass unchalleneged in my presence, so it is a thin line I'm walking.

I don't think I could have stood in that "debate" and not gotten right down to that Freepy Chimp's level of in-your-face-insults. Right down.

NO MORE BACKING DOWN FROM TOTALITARIAN SCUM!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:43 PM
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13. Yeah, that sounds pretty typical.
I used to go to a website that allowed all viewpoints. There were several freeper types there.

Occasionally, I would get them to actually debate issues, to a degree. But inevitably, if they had to post more than 2-3 times, they abandoned reason and resorted to personal attacks, namecalling, and insults.

I remember one time, I was just trying to ascertain exactly where his 'charitable' limits were, i.e., should ANYONE get govt aid. I was going through case after case (a drunk on the streets, a pregnant runaway, a developmentally disabled adult, etc) to see if ANY of these were worthy of his 'hard-earned' tax dollars. I thought we were actually having a good discussion, seeing that there were no 'absolutes', that there were gray areas where people might actually need and deserve our help.

Suddenly, he just quits the dialog, declared victory, and quit the debate altogether.

I've NEVER found a conservative who will consistantly debate reasonably.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:39 PM
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18. It's SO annoying
I like to debate and learn about different points of view, but when I am told to "fuck off and die" by someone, I really don't care to learn anything about their views, it's very telling of their personality.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:26 PM
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21. Exactly!
I have "discussions" with a repub at work occasionally. Whenever he gets bogged down he responds with "your problem is..." He can't stand it that his arguments are so full of holes he can't defend them. I will NOT back down when he tries this, I just point out he is now engaging in personal attacks, so he usually shuts up and leaves my office a that point.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:45 PM
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14. To make such debates shorter and more enjoyable, use this:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:23 PM
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16. Hahahahahaha!
:)
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:07 PM
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20. How quickly these morons pick this stuff
up from the evil ones like Karen Hughs, it's always crap that someone else has fed them since they are incapable of original thought themself. :argh:
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