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Michael_UK Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:09 AM
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Conservative view of Iraqi torture victims
I'm really going to have to stop spending time at conservative websites. My blood's boiling. This is a thread from one particular site.

"No Human Rights For Sub-Humans

"It is the epitome of irrationality to extend American civil rights to non-citizens, and conversely, human rights to non-humans. One does not hold a funeral for a fallen oak, nor risk one’s life to save a moth. Such species of life do not equivocate human life. Likewise, it is injudicious to ascribe human rights to terrorists who, by definition, are less than human. -

" The sacrifice of a thousand such vermin to save the life of a single American is a trade well worth taking"

To be fair, some on the site said he was going a little too far.

These people are crazy.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:10 AM
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1. I wonder what branch of the military that poster serves in
lemme guess- none of them

what an asshole... probably goes to church and prays to Jesus with the same mouth, too :puke:
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Michael_UK Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:14 AM
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2. It makes me sick
I spend too much time at wingnut sites (it's stimulating to see how they don't think).

Their total dismissal of the torture has been appaling, as if it didn't matter

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:19 AM
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3. just wait
until the Iraqis capture some more of our men and women, and the inevitable "revenge" pictures come out :(

they will have a whole different opinion then. The terms "rape room" and "torture" will suddenly apply
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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:19 AM
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4. Do u have the link? eom
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:20 AM
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5. Sub-humans and non-humans,
This has me extremely upset, how can anyone write such evil, evil words and call "themselves" a human being. Do they have any idea how those words will come back to haunt them some day and the price they will have to pay for them. I used to feel pity for the way they think, but not anymore.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:26 AM
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6. To be fair, that's what a majority of them think of US
For more than a decade I listened in both Rising Horror and Denial. Finally, they convinced me that they actually meant with all their hearts (just like the Nazis) the demonizing rhetoric they used.

When that little horrific fact became internalized, I made up my mind to Stand and Be True.

Yes, they are crazy, and like Nazis it will take very little "loosening of restraint" by their Bushevik Masters to send them "to the next level".

They would have no thought, remorse, or pangs of guilty conscience at harming or murdering us so long as they could be guaranteed by their Bushevik LE contacts that they would be treated like a KKK Lyncher in Mississippi 1938.

Be wary for sign that is occurring (my guess for the time frame if the Busheviks aren't stopped 8-10 years from now, of course the details of this New Tyranny are not yet clear as to what it will exactly look like).

When you are certain, mentally prepare yourself like a Jew in nazi Germany in 1938.

Because at that time you'll BE ONE, if you get my drift.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:27 AM
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7. No one in those prisons has had any sort of trial
We have no idea whether they are guilty of anything or not. Does that little fact bother these scum who call themselves Americans? They are brown people who are also Iraqis so lets torture and humiliate them as a way of winning their hearts and souls. Do these folks ever think about the shit that comes out of their mouths?
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:29 AM
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8. 60% of them were collected in "general roundups"
Edited on Wed May-05-04 11:29 AM by AussieInCA
was mentioned on npr from the army's report, as well as no due process at all.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:30 AM
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9. Standard war psyops
Edited on Wed May-05-04 11:30 AM by Az
The enemy is subhuman. They are evil and want to rape your mother. There is no reasoning with them. They must be killed.
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Ottmar Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:42 AM
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10. That's not crazy or gone a little too far
that's pure nazi-ideology.
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Ottmar Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:51 AM
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11. In Germany this would be a job for the prosecuting attorney.
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:56 AM
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12. Unbelievable
Most of those sickos are also Bible thumpers...to me they are more like "bible jumpers". That guy must have jumped over the passage that reads "whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me" Sick, sick, sick.
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