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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:42 PM
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New NBC News Wall Street Journal Poll
Breaking...

Bush 46
Kerry 42
Nader 5
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:43 PM
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1. neck in neck foliks
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:01 PM
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8. The incumbent has a definite advantage, so this is better than neck n' nek
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:45 PM
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2. more results here from same poll
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1535578

very telling numbers re: effectiveness of Bush attack ads

Kerry is already defined....just like they did Gore

he's in BIG trouble, the way I see it......he's been tagged forever

according to this poll, a LARGE number of dems even believe he's a flipflopper
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:56 PM
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3. He should show up at an event wearing shorts and FLIP-FLOPS
and then BLAST Bush on HIS flop-flops..

He should also tie in how the Bush-machine tagged Gore with unearned labels.. People are not awaare they are being "spun"...that's why propaganda WORKS.. SOMEONE needs to TELL the people what it is and how to recognize it..

That would also "loosen" him up, since Bush-bots have tried to peg him as "humorless"...


Come on John, BE BOLD...
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:58 PM
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4. He has not responded to flip-flop
Edited on Wed May-05-04 06:00 PM by Leilani
Should have run commercials with Bush flip flops...there are lots of them.

I hope his campaign gets stronger...he is supposed to be a good closer.

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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:04 PM
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6. TIAKerry=50%..and NBC/WSJ are VERY biased to Bush
Edited on Wed May-05-04 06:05 PM by TruthIsAll
Use the TIA adjustment to get the TIAKerry %

Bush =46
Kerry = 42
Nader - 5
Undec =7

TIAKerry = 42+ 2/3(7+5) = 42+8 = 50

Most other polls have TIAKerry at 52%
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:02 PM
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5. Pravda
No surprise this comes from WSJ. However, I am starting to wonder.

But of course all good Pravda is supposed to make Free People doubt their senses.

What to do, what to believe? The Soviet Dilemna. Come to our own shores, repugnantly enough.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:53 PM
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7. Probably taken before Kerry's bio ads ran,
right? He'll be back up soon.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:05 PM
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9. Why is it neck and neck?
I don’t get it Kerry should be wiping the floor with this guy. Is it simply that there are more Republicans registered voters than Democratic?
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:11 PM
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10. When I saw that tonight I knew one thing now that Kerry definitely
has to do. Right now his new ads are a great improvement and wonderful. BUT, since we have let Bush define him and the sheep baaaa out "waffler" when asked, he now has to DEFINE Bush. Believe it or not, John, these people really do not know Bush even though his face has been in there's for 3 years. They don't know the rat bastard he really is. We have to define him and label him. We cannot let the impression the media has washed into people's minds all these years stand unchallenged.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:43 PM
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11. Too many Americans still believe that Bush is an honest man.
Kerry needs surrogates to flat out call Bush a liar and back it up with an endless list of specific examples. This would not only bring Bush down, but it also would neutralize the lying attacks Bush will continue to make.

The entire world knows that Bush is the most compulsive and incessant liar in the history of American politics.

Bush claims that John McCain has an illegitimate Negro daughter and said he would veto McCain-Feingold and the yawning boy was not there and was not yawning and besides he was standing some place else and Richard Clarke had complete access to Bush and Rice which proves that Clarke was out of the loop which is Clinton's fault which means that unnamed White House sources may not be identified even when Bush wants to even though everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his National Guard service which was after he volunteered to go to Viet Nam but before he was no longer required to take a flight physical and about the same time that God ordered Bush to smite Saddam which is Clinton's fault because the 60 lines of embryonic stem cells and more arsenic in the water and more mercury in the air prove that republican science is better than sound science and the Bush administration did not illegally conspire to illegally reveal the identity of a covert CIA operative which resulted in 2 million new jobs being created because democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans which is why Bush said he would veto the creation of both the Department of Homeland Security and the 9/11 Commission but the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 Commission which is why the White House withheld documents and called the republicans on the Commission before Clarke testified and why the White House is not coordinating the attacks on the integrity and bipartisanship of the Commission since the dental xrays prove that Bush spoke with the CIA director everyday and did not ignore either the repeated warnings of the dangers of al Qaeda and Osama or the August 2001 intelligence briefing specifically warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks because the United States is a nation with a mission and that mission is to bring freedom to every single person in the world which will cut the deficit in half if you do not count those parts of the deficit which will increase under Bush which is Clinton's fault but the boxes from China were labeled "Made in USA" which resulted in 2.6 million new jobs being created even though the $400 billion decorative Medicare turkey was not labeled $550 billion and was passed without bribery or criminal deception which proves that government spending under Bush has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending under Bush which is Clinton's fault and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an urgent but not an imminent threat which is Clinton's fault Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the invasion was not planned before Bush took office even though it was the subject of his first national security council meeting and in December 2001 Bush said he was focused on the military operations in Afghanistan and then the aircraft carrier was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough "Mission Accomplished" banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 which is Clinton's fault but everyone who pays income taxes got a tax cut which created 3 million new jobs and allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities except for the dead and wounded troops who are being brought home secretly which is Clinton's fault since Bush is the one who hugs the mothers and the widows and the wives and the kids and that is why Bush who will use the jawbone of an ass to force OPEC to open the spigots and who is responsible for good economic numbers but not bad economic numbers which are Clinton's fault wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

There is no subject so somber, serious, or shallow that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that apparently is something Bush can not do.

Ridiculing Bush for his compulsive and incessant lying needs to become common.

FIRE THE LIAR




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