How far will these jack-off, mothers at the DLC go?

[Oracle]

This includes Joe Lieberman, John Kerry and Dickless Gephardt, Al Gore and Bill Clinton...the good ole soft, mellow "MODERATES" (makes me sick just writing the word)the be a little tough on the Republicans, but not tooo tough, we don't want anyone thinking were bullies.

Are they stooges for Karl Rove? Are they getting big bucks for it or just getting laid?

Why does the DLC think it can dictate what Democratic canidates are worthy for us to vote for.

A couple of links below should make it more than clear what we are facing my progressive LIBERAL (NOT moderates ugh!!!) brothers and sisters...

http://www.ericblumrich.com/dlc.html

http://www.ericblumrich.com

https://www.kucinich.us

http://www.deanforamerica.com/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2003-08-07-political-poll_x.htm

http://www.crisispapers.org/

http://www.nazis.net/

http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html

[tjdee]

1. Kerry is a moderate and Dean is not?

Or is it that Kerry is a member of the DLC and Dean is not?

I never heard Kerry was a moderate until I came to DU, LOL.

[Terwilliger]

13. Yes, and Kerry will lose in 2004

I really don't see his leadership, and that will KILL him

[indigo32]

2. I'm not one to

pass a good DLC bashing (for several reasons) but this is nothing but flame bait.

[Oracle]

3. You got that right, dude! FLAME AWAY!!!!

FLAME AWAY!!!

[Terwilliger]

14. flame? flame what? why would anyone want to flame a segment of the party?

I can't BELIEVE that that would be possible! We're all just one big happy tent!

Pardon me, I'll get back to Born on the Fourth of July and remember how much it all means :nuke:

[GregW]

4. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz........................

[twilight]

5. Eric Blumrich

Good stuff this guy has out there!!

Who is Dennis Kucinich anyway?????

Isn't the media doing a nice job of covering him up?

Gephardt? Kerry? Holy Joe (and Bustmante?) ... damn what a shyte of a plan.

No thanks and no flames either.

:kick:

[Muddleoftheroad]

6. Do you

Dislike any Republicans or only Democrats?

And I ain't your brother...

[Oracle]

7. Your exacly what I expected, your bringing tears, I mean tears of joy...

and happiness to me MODERATES!!!!

[Muddleoftheroad]

8. Moderates

Yep, I'm a moderate. A radical moderate perhaps, but moderate nonetheless. Without us, neither party can win because we are the true majority.

[Terwilliger]

24. meaning you don't really believe anything either way

isn't that right?

[Oracle]

25. That is absolutely correct!

[Muddleoftheroad]

26. Not at all

Means I believe different ways on different issues. Depends on the issue really.

[Terwilliger]

33. that's my point...you don't want to stake out a position

Like the DLC...they want to be all things to all people. Only problem is, if you're in the center, you're not a Democrat anymore. At some point, you have to define what you believe in. If you believe that the two parties represent a separate philosophy about the way to live life, then choose your sides, or quit both parties and become independent.

[bpilgrim]

28. what an apt name

to go along with your many posts

peace

[w4rma]

9. Gov. Dean is a moderate, Oracle. (n/t)

[Oracle]

10. I agree...he's not my choice, nor the DLC...

I support Kucinich with my money and time and love!

[shance]

18. I basically agree with everything you said

thats why I believe Dean is the candidate.

I like Kucinich a lot, I dont think from looking at his overall voting record that he would be as tough or as effective as Dean. And needless to say I think we need him right where he is! I dont think we can afford to lose any Representatives, especially with all this redistricting chaos.

[gulliver]

11. Why can't we all just get along?

The DLC was in better shape before Gingrich and then Gingrich's dumber brother (Bush). Now, the DLC has little or nothing to show for trying to work with the Republicans. The current Republican Party hijackers don't want to work with Dems of any stripe. Hell, these GOP a**holes don't even want to work with moderates in their own party.

We need the DLC, and we need the progressive wing both. You need two wings to fly. When moderate and traditional conservatives finally look at the POS they were sold in George W. Bush, we will be glad that we have Dems who interface with business. The DLC and other conservative Dems are part of the family. They all consider themselves progressive.

We can't be as uncompromising with our own party as the GOP is with Dems in the government. Sure, I hate it when Lieberman falls back on Iraq being a "just war" but does not address the fact that it was not an "immediately necessary" war. But do I hate Lieberman for it? No. (I don't even hate him for letting Cheney out of the basement during stealection 2000.)

The only way we are going to get out of this Bush-inspired, stupidity-inspired pandemic of division is to think and listen to one another.

[jiacinto]

12. You are so immature

I don't take you seriously. With your foul language I doubt anyone else will either.

Attack Moderate Democrats all you want. But without us you are only 30-40% of the electorate.

Hound out moderates. I hope that you would be happy then to have a party that only has 35 Senate Seats, 150 House Seats, and 10 Governorship.

Because that is what your immature attitude will lead us toward. And maybe you would then be happy because those 35 Senators, 150 Congressman, and 10 Governors would be ideologically pure. But they would be able to get little, if anything, accomplished.

Then again why does it suprise me that actually governing is a second thought to you?

[Oracle]

15. Isn’t that Oracle a loud-mouth, pathetic, stupid, self-absorbed, insignif

As I sit here with my home cooked fries, tasty veggie burger and homemade lemonade...you make me laugh until I'm almost as silly as...

jiacinto, I'll be coming after you moderates for the next year plus!!!

As if I really give a shit what you think!

[jiacinto]

17. Whatever

Then lose every election. But I hope you'll be happy with there are only 35 Democrats left in the Senate, 150 House seats that belong to Democrats, and only 10 Democrats as Governors.

But you know--good luck with your efforts to turn out all moderate Democrats from the party.

Enjoy perenially getting the 37% of the vote that George McGovern got in 1972.

[Oracle]

20. McGovern? Now you sound EXACTLY like the DLC...

I voted for McGovern when I turnned eighteen in 1972...It was a different time...that's DLC horseshit and all it leaves is stink!

37% that's such shit only a moderate wishy-washy, don't know what side of the fence he's on, no opinion fool, would repeat that comical
DLC bullshit lie!

[jiacinto]

21. Whatever

You are so immature. Then again go ahead--be happy with getting only 37% of the vote. It's what your arrogant snot ass attitude will get you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I Thought McGovern Got 38% Of The Vote

[Terwilliger]

34. Bill Clinton won in 92 (barely) because he was sold as a better Republican

do you not get that?

If you want to oppose George W. Bush with a muddle-minded Democrat, then Bush will win, and I'll blame YOU this time.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. What Makes Dean More Liberal

than Kerry, Gephardt, Graham, or Edwards.

[Terwilliger]

16. Governing is not the problem, Carlos

fascism is, and if I can believe that George W. Bush is a fascist Nazi, then I can believe that those who wish to appeal to the Nazi sheep are themselves Nazis.

Logic abounds.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I Think Bush Is A Reactionary

I don't think he is a fascist.

[Terwilliger]

36. whatever he is, he's in power

you wont get him out by selling the alternative as a "less reactionary conservative"

[buddhamama]

27. whatever -- is very immature

quit it too with the supposed polls tell us this and blah balh balh

it can't be proven--so as far as i am concerned the 'scientific polls' don't count.

[BackDoorMan]

32. Your observations are keen and perceptive, especially about

“Whatever.”

His moderate bullshit drives me up the wall (and many others I notice.)

[bpilgrim]

30. how old are you again?

boy, i gotta hand it to you, you sure got 'guts'

the point is that there isn't enough consistent CRITISIM from our active leadership on KEY issues that ALL americans care about.

that is why the precieved 'left' wing of the party is making such a splash.

i wanna know how the 'middle' plans to address this legit critisism.

:shrug:

peace

[olmy]

19. The new improved DLC

The DLC served it's purpose for it's time. The country was a very different place when Clinton became elected. Moderation over extremism was viewed as the only way that the DLC could get Clinton elected.

We are in a different world. Even the imbecile freepers see that their guy is a nut. For us, we now see that trying to sit our asses on the fence will get us nowhere. That is why Dean is going to be the nomination. Kerry, and gang, especially Edwards are going absolutely nowhere.

The DLC seems to get the picture, but it's like they are looking at a piece of abstract art upside down...they know it's a painting but they do not get the message. The DLC has served it's time, and needs new fresh injections of the things that are making Dean so popular.

Basically taking them on, and giving them shit. Otherwise we will lose. Very badly.

[Terwilliger]

22. sounds reasonable

[Oracle]

23. I love your stlye olmy and agree...

I'd prefer it to be Kucinich...but ruining the DLC plans for us, almost makes me as happy as defeating asshole George!

I wish I had the capacity to say it with your eloquence.

Cheers!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. I Don't Like Labels

except on food so I can see how much nutrition I'm getting.

On some issues I'm on the left.


On some issues I'm in the middle.

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