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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:36 AM
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Gitmo - stuck head in toilet and flushed - ERF filmed everything

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1217969,00.html

'They tied me up like a beast and began kicking me'

"I was in extreme pain and so weak that I could barely stand. It was freezing cold and I was shaking like a washing machine. They questioned me at gunpoint and told me that if I confessed I could go home.

'They had already searched me and my cell twice that day, gone through my stuff, touched my Koran, felt my body around my private parts. And now they wanted to do it again, just to provoke me, but I said no, because if you submit to everything you turn into a zombie.

'I heard a guard talking into his radio, "ERF, ERF, ERF," and I knew what was coming - the Extreme Reaction Force. The five cowards, I called them - five guys running in with riot gear. They pepper-sprayed me in the face and I started vomiting; in all I must have brought up five cupfuls. They pinned me down and attacked me, poking their fingers in my eyes, and forced my head into the toilet pan and flushed. They tied me up like a beast and then they were kneeling on me, kicking and punching. Finally they dragged me out of the cell in chains, into the rec yard, and shaved my beard, my hair, my eyebrows.'

Tarek Dergoul, a British citizen born and brought up in east London and released without charge after almost two years at Guantanamo Bay, was describing one of many alleged assaults he says he suffered in American custody. With the world still reeling from the photographs of prisoner abuse and torture at the Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq, Dergoul's testimony suggests that Guantanamo hides another terrible secret - proof, in the shape of hundreds of videos shot by US guards, that here, too, America's war against terror has led to wanton brutality against helpless detainees.
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this innocent man was held and tortured for 2 yrs at Gitmo by us americans.

tortured in our name.

how proud would you be to have a child on this ERF team?
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:39 AM
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1. you know what Hannity is going to say
what's the big deal? I did that to nerds all the time in junior high!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:43 AM
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2. the ugliness
Where do these people come up with this stuff? How could any human be capable of doing this to another? It just boggles my mind.

I will admit that I've not thought much of us (Americans) in terms of a people with any character. This torture scandal is showing us what ugliness pervades.


Cher

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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:46 AM
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3. I didn't know giving someone a "swirlie" was permitted by Geneva
Is this a Rummy special torture, oops I mean interrogation, technique. What a bunch of tools. I don't appreciate our high level officers of government making our countrymen look like a bunch of bafoons.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:46 AM
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4. How many more?
this innocent man was held and tortured for 2 yrs at Gitmo by us americans.


Now that people in the U.S. are hearing about these things, and as the incidents become confirmed, there is no longer the excuse that we didn't know.

I do think that these crimes warrant punishments in both the national and international courts but I wonder if the international community is brave enough to take a stand against the U.S. For sure, unless the citizens of this country publicly oppose what is going on, none of it will stop. It will just be covered up more effectively.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 11:01 AM
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5. The information has been out there, but it has been ignored
Or derided, because it came from Arab or Muslim sources, like this one:

Lawyer: Guantanamo Prisoners Tortured

U.S.-based Richard Bourke, who has been working for almost two years on behalf of dozens of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, said American military officials were using old-fashioned torture techniques to force confessions out of prisoners.

The methods "clearly" fell under the definition of torture under international conventions, he told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio in an interview from the United States.

"They are engaging in good old-fashioned torture, as people would have understood it in the Dark Ages," he said.


http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=8663&TagID=2
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