CONFIRMED: Chalabi informed Iranians we knew their codes

[ShaneGR]

Oh, what a tangled web they've weaved.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/02/politics/02CHAL.html?hp

(snip)

Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi leader and former ally of the Bush administration, disclosed to an Iranian official that the United States had broken the secret communications code of Iran's intelligence service, betraying one of Washington's most valuable sources of information about Iran, according to United States intelligence officials.

The general charge that Mr. Chalabi provided Iran with critical American intelligence secrets was widely reported last month after the Bush administration cut off financial aid to Mr. Chalabi's organization, the Iraqi National Congress, and American and Iraqi security forces raided his Baghdad headquarters.

The Bush administration, citing national security concerns, asked The New York Times and other news organizations not to publish details of the case. The Times agreed to hold off publication of some specific information that top intelligence officials said would compromise a vital, continuing intelligence operation. The administration withdrew its request on Tuesday, saying information about the code-breaking was starting to appear in news accounts.

[Love Bug]

1. Gee, they must be losing their grip on the Media

It'll be interesting to see where this one goes.

[kcwayne]

2. Why did those numbnuts tell Chalabi they had broken the code?

Unbelievably stupid. Another day in the maladministration.

[Old and In the Way]

3. Wow, is this administration a national security risk or what?

They out CIA agents involved with tracking terrorists trying to acquire nuclear weapons. They promote Chalabi who's working with Iran. We don't know why Bush allowed the 9/11 attacks to happen without immediately reacting to the event. We don't know why they have not gone after the source of 9/11 terror, Saudi Arabia. They've bankrupted the Treasury and have not done anything to enhance our infrastructure security.

Why does this administration hate America so much?

[aquart]

4. So. We gonna try him for treason?

Ha! Ha! Ha!

[SoCalDem]

5. What am I missing??

We decoded Iran's messages..

"Someone" told Chalabi that we had decoded Iran's messages.

Chalabi told Iran that we knew their code..

Iran sent a "test" message , which we "ignored" ...to try to convince them that Chlabi didn't know what he was talking aboout..

How did WE know that he had told them or that the message they sent was a "test"???

[underpants]

7. NBC(no link) this morning reported "drunken US offiical" told him

that we had broken the Iranian codes.

I can't find a link to that story on NBC or otherwise butthat lead off the 7 AM news report.

[SoCalDem]

10. I know that, BUT....

Who then told US that they had told Chalabi???

How did WE know Chalabi "spilled the beans"?? Did the Iranians call us and say.."Your boy Chalabi told us some stuff"..or did Chalabi call George and say.."Hey I told the Iraninans what your drunk friend told me"..

How did WE find out he had told Iran??

[Beetwasher]

12. The US Intercepted a Message

from the Iranian intel's Baghdad station cheif. In that message, he notified his superiors that he had been informed by Chalabi that the US had broken their code.

Here's my off the cuff analysis:

Chalabi/Iran decided it was time for this story to break and so they sent that communication knowing it would be intercepted and knowing the US would now know that Iran was aware the code was broken. They had alreay gotten what they needed from the scenario and it now served their purposes to let the US know they knew the code was broken. There could be several reasons/motivations for this.

Also, we have no way of really knowing at this point how long Iran knew the US had broken the code or for how long the US had the code to begin with. Iran could have known from the moment the US thought they boke the code (IOW, from day one) The story claims Chalabi told the Baghdad station chief six weeks ago, but for all we know, this was a set up by Iranian intel and they decided to "break" this six weeks ago but actually had the info much longer. I suspect this is the actual case. I'd be willing to bet that Iranian intel had this info since before the war and had been using it VERY effectively the whole time. A LOT of stuff might make more sense in light of this info.

Honestly, I wouldn't be totally sure that Chalabi actually got the information the way it's being presented in the news account. It's possible it's true that it was drunkenly blabbed to him, but it's equally possible, IMO, that that account is dis-info.

The sad and frightening truth of the matter is that the idiots in charge allowed an Iranian agent practically unfettered access to some incredibly delicate US secrets, resources and personnel. Who knows what he got his hands on and HOW he managed it. He may have been given everything by traitors, he may have been given some by traitors and managed to steal others. He may have bribed or coerced info from people. Some of those people/assets might STILL be under his influence through blackmail etc. The damage Chalabi did is probably not completely knowable. He probably has stuff even Bushco. would be surprised he got his hands on. Who knows? Only Chalabi knows and I'm sure he's keeping his secrets well guarded.

More in these threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=596088&mesg_id=596088&page=

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1705199

[onecitizen]

6. Shouldn't Chalabi be.......

in leg irons somewhere? And take bush cabal with him!

[kentuck]

8. They may as well send a Bible and a cake....

like Reagan did....

[Bandit]

9. How did any foreign national receive secret information?

Is nothing sacred with this Cabal?

[jackstraw45]

11. THIS IS BIG: First Prince Bandar, now Chalabi...isn't this TREASON???????

How are these foreign nationals given security clearance without SECURITY CLEARANCE?!?!?!?!?

First, this administration shares war plans with Prince Bandar (last time I checked, there aren't any Saudi troops in Iraq).

Now, Chalabi is given top secret data on Iran.

There's no other way to describe it but TREASON!