WHO is WH Traitor who gave Chalabi the Classified Data?

[jackstraw45]

From http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040602/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_chalabi

"The FBI is already trying to determine if someone in the U.S. government gave the information to Chalabi, which would be a criminal offense for leaking highly classified material, the official said."

Who leaked it this time? My guess is Perle....anyone else?

[Loonman]

1. Wolfowitz?

nt

[Beetwasher]

2. Yet Another Chalabi Thread: OK, Once Again, My Analysis!

Here's my off the cuff analysis:

Chalabi/Iran decided it was time for this story to break and so they sent that communication knowing it would be intercepted and knowing the US would now know that Iran was aware the code was broken. They had alreay gotten what they needed from the scenario and it now served their purposes to let the US know they knew the code was broken. There could be several reasons/motivations for this.

Also, we have no way of really knowing at this point how long Iran knew the US had broken the code or for how long the US had the code to begin with. Iran could have known from the moment the US thought they boke the code (IOW, from day one) The story claims Chalabi told the Baghdad station chief six weeks ago, but for all we know, this was a set up by Iranian intel and they decided to "break" this six weeks ago but actually had the info much longer. I suspect this is the actual case. I'd be willing to bet that Iranian intel had this info since before the war and had been using it VERY effectively the whole time. A LOT of stuff might make more sense in light of this info.

Honestly, I wouldn't be totally sure that Chalabi actually got the information the way it's being presented in the news account. It's possible it's true that it was drunkenly blabbed to him, but it's equally possible, IMO, that that account is dis-info.

The sad and frightening truth of the matter is that the idiots in charge allowed an Iranian agent practically unfettered access to some incredibly delicate US secrets, resources and personnel. Who knows what he got his hands on and HOW he managed it. He may have been given everything by traitors, he may have been given some by traitors and managed to steal others. He may have bribed or coerced info from people. Some of those people/assets might STILL be under his influence through blackmail etc. The damage Chalabi did is probably not completely knowable. He probably has stuff even Bushco. would be surprised he got his hands on. Who knows? Only Chalabi knows and I'm sure he's keeping his secrets well guarded.

More in these threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&a...

[jackstraw45]

3. Not a thread about Chalabi...it's about the traitor in our government

The White House is focusing attention on Chalabi, a foreign national.

The blame in this is on a traitor in our government who illegally shared highly classified data with Chalabi.

That is where our focus should be.

What other secrets have been let out by the traitors in the White House?

We have Valerie Plame, the Iran codes and WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE?

[Beetwasher]

8. It's All Connected

I agree, the more serious crime is the breach itself and the treason involved...

[salin]

24. And that question... to the public..

leaves dangling in the air, unspoken but in peoples' minds... "What other information did these ideologically blind idiots leak to the Iranians?"

And that - loses votes. Fast.

Then we can come back to the Treason question_s_ (as if THIS justice deparment will ever do any serious investigations.)

[MrBenchley]

4. We know Chimpy himself

gave classified information to Woodward for his blowjob of a book....

[David Zephyr]

5. Thank You, Jackstraw45! And Why Isn't The Media Asking THAT Question.

If the White House and the Corporate Media are so outraged by Chalabi's turning over code information to Iran, then where is their outrage over who in the hell within the White House or Pentagon that GAVE him the information?

That's the larger crime and it was the topic of conversation in our home this morning. Thank you for asking the ONLY pertinent question with regards to this "story".

[jackstraw45]

6. Glad others are as concerned

The corporate media buries the lead in every story negative to the administration.

Another perfect example was a few days ago when the Cheney-Haliburton email surfaced. Now, mind you, this was the FIRST news cycle for the story and it was "hot" off the presses.

In typical corporate media fashion, the anchor of the national news channel LED the story with the denial by stating something like:

"Vice President Cheney's office is denying reports that...."

They BURY the real story.

Shameful "journalism" these days driven by corporate greed and tax breaks.

[bpilgrim]

10. ditto

:hi:

peace

[kodi]

7. Douglas J. Feith Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. Bank on it

He was responsible for the defense dept's secret intelligence gathering unit on themiddle east that was at odds constantly with the state dept's and cia's intelligence analyses.

he had ample cause to share with chalabi intelligence on iraq/iran and he was the closest to chalabi.

[Stephanie]

21. I vote for Feith or Wolfowitz

They were taking Chalabi's fake intel to fabricate their OSP reports - it wouldn't be surprising that they'd give a little back. Only they're not as smart as Chalabi so they gave away actual secrets.

[yellowcanine]

9. Had to be somebody very high up - could even be Cheney or Rumsfield

A special prosecutor is obviously needed.

[Stephanie]

22. True - might be Cheney himself

Please let him live long enough to wear the orange jumpsuit.

[Catshrink]

11. Chalabi said the guy who gave him the info was drunk....

It must be true, I heard it on CNN.

So, whose a drunk in the WH? Could it be the jackass himself -- or do they let him know state secrets?

[Stephanie]

23. Jeez - he said that? It's getting very interesting

High level admin official, drunk, spills state secrets to Iraqi exile Chalabi.

Drunk....

Perle? He's the hedonistic oenophile gourmand.

Cheney? Knocking back some heart-healthy scotch?

Chimpy? Bud and pretzels.

[PurityOfEssence]

25. As if this guy's word means anything

I wouldn't be surprised if it's all crap: that we didn't crack their code and that nobody said we did. The pure beauty of Chalabi's actions is that he's so thoroughly corrupt that nothing he touches can be taken at face value.

This is also the danger that the administration is facing: anything from gross incompetence to rampant larceny is open to question now. Our credibility abroad is non-existent. The fact that the domestic media can still contain huge things like the torturing just serves to keep us in a different world from the rest of humanity.

Anything's possible, including nothing.

[elf]

12. kick for later reading

[truthspeaker]

13. one way to find out, and it's legal now!

Arrest all of them, deny them access to lawyers, and use torture to extract the information!

[ILeft]

14. William Luti (picture of Feith & Luti if you have a strong stomach)

Get a supersize image if you want to see evil up close:
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Jun2003/030604-D-2987S-052.html

[nixonwasbetterthanW]

15. Bush met Chalabi at Thanksgiving in Baghdad

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A17151-2003Nov27?language=printer

So, if Bush tippled pre-meal while on the flight over to Iraq, who knows what else, besides the obligatory drooled gravy, he may have spilled in Chalabi's lap?

[carolinayellowdog]

16. Iran specialist in the Pentagon, Michael Rubin

http://talkingpointsmemo.com

Googling "Iran expert"+Chalabi yields results pointing to Michael Rubin.

Found this too, at
http://www.stephenpollard.net/001615.html

The one name we alll may be hearing a lot more in the wake of the Chalabi controversy is neocon boy Michael Rubin. The FBI is reportedly very interested in questioning him. Rumors are rampant on the Hill that it was "Iran expert" Rubin who passed the highly-classified intel that found its way to Teheran. Stay tuned

[BurtWorm]

19. Rubin, Rhode, Luti or Feith.

I bet.

[carolinayellowdog]

20. More on Rubin/Chalabi

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/006744.php
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/the_chalabi_plot.php

[denverbill]

17. Yet another intelligence fuckup from the Neocons.

First, it was nincompoop Orrin Hatch blurting out that we were monitoring Osama bin Laden's phone calls which let him slip away.

Then they out Valerie Plame.

Now this.

This administration and that party can't be trusted where national security is involved. They've proven that.

[carolinayellowdog]

18. Who compared Chalabi to Muhammad?

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=79311

From an article by Samuel Phillips, a former State Department employee:

At a meeting I attended with European diplomats to discuss reconstruction, a Rumsfeld protõgõ asserted that "Ahmed Chalabi is like the prophet Muhammad. At first, people doubted him but they came to realize the wisdom of his ways."

This ties in to Marshall's clue that the chief suspect compared Chalabi to Muhammad. But can't find anything more detailed identifying the individual. Still, Rubin appears the top suspect at this point.

[Ilsa]

26. Pickles knows everything because she has to tutor DimSon

every night and read to him. I bet she blabbed.