Is PETA a terrorist organization?

[Renew Deal]

There are some here that think so. Others disagree. You decide

[Colin Ex]

1. When PeTA blows up a building

or assassinates somebody, they'll be a terrorist group.

Until then, they're just a bunch of activists seeking justice on the issue that pisses them off. Their grasp on reality is arguable, but it's not like they're blowing up cars here.

-C

[Berserker]

20. Well check this out about PETA

PETA has contributed thousands of dollars to known activist extremists. Most of these extremist were involved in either ALF or ELF, two organizations under FBI watch. The FBI is monitoring these organizations for acts of terrorism in the United States. These acts include arson, bombings, cutting the brake lines on fishery trucks, breaking and entering, destruction of government and organizational research laboratories and murder. ALF, in one statement, has admitted to over 100 acts of terrorism, all in the name of animal rights and the economy.
http://www.hunters-unite.com/peta.htm

[kiahzero]

2. Where's the "No, it just funds them" option?

They've donated money to ELF, a bonafide domestic terrorist group.

[Heyo]

5. Not to throw around the "T" word....

But you're right about ELF.

They fit the dictionary definition of terrorism.

And they hurt their cause by doing it.

Burning an SUV releases alot more toxins into the air than the exhaust. Tires burning and whatnot, and the plastic parts inside the engine.

Peta is definitely extreme and probably turn people away from the cause than win them over.

I love animals, love them with all my heart... but Peta sucks ass.... I'd like to take their top leadership and beat them over the head with a spotted owl...

:D

(kidding of course)

Heyo

[theoceansnerves]

3. oh

for fuck's sake.
make it stop please!

[MrSlayer]

4. Yes indeed.

Burning down buildings, breaking and entering to vandalize and destroy property are actions of terrorists.

[Kali]

6. I don't care for these groups

being a meat producer and all, but I don't like the word terrorist being thrown around at every criminal that exists. these folks are vandals, arsonists, thieves, tresspassers (criminal), idiots etc etc. To me terrorism is about making innocent people afraid basically by killing innocent people. Even ALF isn't into that (I think?)

[Radical Activist]

8. The actions of terrorists or Nelson Mandela

during his struggles in South Africa along with the ANC. Take your pick.

Or, you could make a distinction between those who target human beings, like Al-Qaeda, and those who only target property to make an economic impact on a destructive system, like Mandela and the ELF.

[Aidoneus]

12. Your heroes have done all of that and more

I guess that makes you a terrorist sympathizer?

[ConsAreLiars]

7. Asscrapt said so.

Long before he ever mentioned al Qaeda. Surprised so many agree with him. I guess some folks here find naked people terrifying, or feel desperately concerned about the sheen on their fur coats. Or maybe seeing videos of factory farms scares them. Or find the idea of treating animals humanely threatening somehow. I suspect the same folks will rant on endlessly about the inconvenience of some anti-war protest that impedes their daily routine, without giving a damn about the slaughter.

[Radical Activist]

9. It really scares me

that on a board like DU almost 1/3 are saying PETA is a terrorist group. This is why its so easy for cops or the military to violently break up protests and deny constitutional rights. Freedom of speech can only be protected by the people, and it scares me that so many people on this board would accept the Bush/Facist excuse for denying an unpopular group their voice.

If that attitude were allowed to spread it would eventually lead to websites like DU being labeled terrorist and shut down. Although, I'm sure things will never go that far in the US.

[Hippo_Tron]

10. I basically view PETA the same way as I view Christain fundamentalists...

They do things I disagree with, but they're not blowing up buildings and killing people. They have a right to do things I disagree with so long as nobody gets hurt.

[Aidoneus]

11. This is at once ridiculous and disturbing

It may be so that the only thing that is really held against Ashcroft & Bush is the (R) next to their names?!

[TexasMexican]

13. There is nothing wrong with...

people eating tasty animals.

However if you think its wrong, well then I dont want to be right.

[RebelOne]

18. As far as I'm concerned it's wrong

so you're not right.

[Angelus]

14. No...but it's full of whackjobs.

If I wore a fur coat, and some nutcase went and spraypainted it, I'd be pissed and kick his/her ass.

They go waaaay too far with their message they're trying to get out, like vandalizm and such. That's why people don't like them.

[TexasMexican]

15. When someone gets thier furcoat spraypainted...

it just means that they have to go out and buy another one. So PETA is just raising the demand for them and doing harm to themselves.

[Piperay]

16. Defining PETA & other groups

who have a main cause and do extreme things to promote their cause is a very slippery slope. Ashcrap and his ilk would like nothing better than to call anyone who speaks out 'TERRORISTS'. Committing vandalism etc. is a crime but it is not anything akin to the actions on 9-11 and shouldn't be labeled as terrorism.

[Zorra]

17. Are humans a terrorist group?

99.9999999% of all dolphins and beef cattle polled agree that they are.

[MarkTwain]

19. Ahhh.The bi-monthly opportunity....

to Bash PETA.

A duplicate of my post in another thread on this topic (they'll be two or three more threads before day's end; it usually runs that way here when the bashing of PETA is the topic).

PETA can NEVER ....Go Far ENOUGH.

It would truly be nice if the same "progressive," and "heartfelt" attention and empathy which is extended to so very many issues and members of our own species on this board were demonstrated equally toward other species whose primary "failure" is their lack of opposable thumbs and a lobbyist on K Street.

Sentient beings are sentient beings. End of story. Try and argue with that very basic concept, idiots.

Moreover, think about it and the vile slaughter of the pig which was necessary to "enjoy" that Egg McMuffin you are eating this morning.

Fuckin' hypocrites.

[Berserker]

23. Sentient Beings are Sentient Beings?

Tell that to the rest of the Carnivores that inhabit the earth. Tell them it's not nice to eat other animals alive. At least we kill them before we eat them but I imagine thats the next conquest of PETA. While you set on your leather couch, car seat or computer chair I'm sure you use a plastic belt to hold up your pants and I'm also sure you only wear plastic shoes. Who are you calling Fuckin Hypocrites? Fuck PETA

[MarkTwain]

25. In keeping with the other...

fallacies under which you obviously operate in this argument, you do not know the following about me:

1. I do not wear leather; I shop at only online stores that are leather free. I wear shoes which are not of leather but of synthetic materials along with converse sneakers which are leather free as well.

2. The same goes for all purchases made at my home and in the company which I own.

As for the rest of the animal kingdom, they have an excuse. They have less evolved brains which cause them to operate under more primitive motives and dynamics.

What's your excuse?

[Renew Deal]

24. Idiots?

Whether I think you are a moron, idiot or ass wad is not important or appropriate. You feel passionately that PETA is a good thing and that's fine. You think there is hypocrisy in our views of the treatment of humans vs. animals and that's fair, but the name calling is wrong.

I personally would be sympathetic to PETA if they weren't an extremist group and I think a lot of people would be. Telling kids that their mommy kills animals and using graphic pictures is not right. Neither are most of their stunts.

Is PETA a terrorist group? That's debatable. Funding terrorists makes them complicit.

And yes, I will enjoy my Egg McMuffin. My lunch will be probably be cow, chicken or fish. They are tasty animals. I might be more reluctant if I wasn't getting yelled at.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1015281

[MarkTwain]

26. When dealing with the terrorism...

... of animal cruelty and slaughter, there is no room for being nice.

Turn a blind eye and a deaf ear upon the pain and suffering which you cause by your primitive habits if that will help you through the drive-through.

And, don't forget to ask for super-sizing as well; it'll speed your reward for such conduct since the ironic element to all of this is that in being such a carnivore you will, guaranteed, die earlier.

Karma's a bitch, ain't it?

[Renew Deal]

27. Yeah, OK

People have been eating meat since the beginning of people and it's going to kill them? I agree that exessive eating, super-sizing, fast food and the sort are not good for you, but a healthy diet including meat is not dangerous.

But I am not turning a blind eye to this. There are some issues that need to be worked out. They can do a good job of regulating the industry, but they have no right to shut it down. What is their better way to kill these animals?

I don't think you have to behave extremely on this issue. PETA is more interested in the welfare of animals than people. I think I remember a story from Iraq where someone used a donkey as a bomb. They were pissed about the donkey and had no regard for the people that died. That's not exactly reasonable.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. PETA does NOT kill people!!!! ....terrorist groups do...

PETA destroys property that kills and tortures animals

[Renew Deal]

29. You don't have to kill people to be considered a terrorist.

Part of terrorism is terror. It's hard for me to say that they terrorize people, but some of their tactics are questionable.

[Loonman]

22. No, but the A.L.F. and E.L.F. is

PETA are just wankers. Irritating, but not dangerous.

[LTR]

28. No

A bit extreme, though.

ALF, on the other hand...