I just got a call from Sy Hersch

[WilliamPitt]

I called him earlier to ask him what he thought of the Tenet thing. He has no idea why this went down the way it did. Hersch, for my money, is perhaps the best journalist in the business right now.

Just thought that was interesting.

[VelmaD]

1. *blink*

Wow.

Did he at least have a fun theory?

[JohnLocke]

2. Ah, quit trying to show off!

;)

[VolcanoJen]

3. Namedropper!

That's really incredible, Will... thanks for sharing this with the rest of us!!

[kaitykaity]

8. Too bad it's Hersh.

No "c."

If he's gonna namedrop, he should at least get the
spelling right.

:evilgrin:

[VelmaD]

10. *snort*

Oh My GAWD! That is too fuckin' funny. I'm gonna tease him about that endlessly and relentlessly. *snort*

[markses]

21. Don't be too harsh...Willy the Deuce just calls him Sy...

:evilgrin:

[treepig]

45. ok, i'll stick with being harsch

i mean really, who isn't called umpteenth times a day by this guy?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

69. Minor detail but Sy was returning Will's phone call from earlier in....

...the day.

Isn't it amazing how jealously rears its ugly head on the DU boards at least once a day?

[displacedtexan]

4. I don't think Bush* knew.

Did you see him this morning? He looked as bad as he sounded.

[BabsSong]

7. reports are that this had been going on for several days and the

decision reached last night. I don't think someone slipped George a note on the way to da' plane and he fell apart. It was just natural, can't put a sentence together George. He wasn't rattled.

[displacedtexan]

13. Bush had finished his comments and headed for the plane...

then he came back to the podium and announced Tenet's resignation... completely unprepared... and took no q's, of course.

Then he left for "Old Europe."

[Joanne98]

65. Where thousands of people are just dying to greet him LOL

[PaDUer]

81. Bet someone told him

via his earpiece, which would explain why he came back to the podium.

[kentuck]

5. It's still volatile....

Everybody's trying to figure out exactly what happened... Some times call for patience.

[Democat]

6. Tell him to keep on writing!

They don't make investigative journalists like him anymore! :)

[MallRat]

9. HE is calling YOU?

Well, now we know where he got all the great leads on the Abu Ghraib story. :-)

If he rings you again, ask him if he's looking into the Nick Berg story. The whole string of coincidences is Forrest Gumpian in scale.

-MR

[Lorien]

11. Is he requesting an interview with Tenet? n/t

[supernova]

15. That's what I wanna know

is Hersch gonna do a piece on Tenet?

[dave29]

12. Yes it's all bizarre

almost too much going on today.

Have you noticed the "offensive" from the White House Talking Points Council?

Powell "War on Terrorism like fighting Nazis"
Rice "Bush will be remembered like Churchill"
Bush "War on Terror like World War II"

Rove has convinced them to be part of the greatest generalization.

[sundancekid]

34. thus resulting in the "greatest desecration" of all those events/leaders!

[Kool Kitty]

48. Rice thinks that Bush will be

remembered like Churchill? That may be the funniest thing I've heard all day.

[dave29]

68. And Roosevelt

I Sh!t you not.

She mentioned Truman too, for good measure.

I think he'll just have an oil tanker named after him ;)

[cmayer]

14. There are so many angles

and so little information.

About the only thing we can probably discount is "personal reasons." And that isn't a "slam dunk."

Who out there plays poker? Bush seemed genuinely distressed and surprised at the circumstance, to me. What does that mean, if true?

[Nlighten1]

17. Bush did seem rattled didn't he?

Maybe his band of thieves is beginning to break up.

[supernova]

18. It means

Bush seemed genuinely distressed and surprised at the circumstance, to me. What does that mean, if true?

It means, Bush&Co got outflanked by Tenet this time. I didn't see Bush today; I don't watch TV in the daytime. But if he seemed genuinely surprised that means Tenet caught the WH off guard.

See, I think Tenet and Gore talked a little before Gore's speech. If they are really good friends as Al said, it would only be the decent thing to do to call George up and let him know Al's calling him out in the speech.

Al could have convinced Tenet this would be a good time to leave.

[Nlighten1]

16. Name dropper!

You lucky m0m0. Hersch is not only one of the best he is one of the only journalists in the business right now.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. Next time you talk to him

tell I would be willing to bear his love child.

God, what a brilliant man.

[proud patriot]

20. Do you mean Hersch was surprised by it ?

:think:

[WilliamPitt]

28. I got that sense

[proud patriot]

84. Interesting

and kind of scary

[cmayer]

32. No, Bush. I didn't talk to Hersh.

I was just watching Bush's face as a poker player.

I don't mean that Bush was surprised on the instant, since the decision, as reported, was made last night. It seemed to me that Bush really wished this wasn't happening.

It could mean a lot of things. My absolute first guess is a divergence in principle. When you can't paper that over, someone's got to go. And of course, I don't really expect Bush to resign.

One (of hundreds) of possiblilities. Tenet saw sworn testimony on his part coming and won't lie under oath. He dodged well before, but sometimes they get you in the cross-hairs.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

22. I just got a call from Sy Hersch too!

(just pulling your leg)

It's getting hard to tell what is them stepping all over themselves due to over reaching..and what is the "turd throwing tennis ball machine" they've been operating since day 1.
I still think the Chalabi thing is to create a case for invading Iran...it's just TOO convenient and Iran's denials lead me to think it's possible if not probable.

[BurtWorm]

25. I had a sandwich made for me by Sid Hirschberg

Does that count? :shrug:

[cmayer]

35. We don't have enough troops to invade Iran.

We don't have enough troops (or ruthlessness, thank God) to subdue Iraq.

If * is the next President and we have a draft that leads to a 5 million person Army, then Iran is probably inevitable (among others.)

[stellanoir]

23. I've some very "personal reasons"

for not responding to this thread. . . But come on Will. . .tell us what he said. . .!!!!

Can't wait to see what the most passionate Italians who Berlusconi's so concerned about have in store for *. No "free speech zones over there! Thank God.

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[Paragon]

30. Burger King?

:spank:

[htuttle]

38. Hail the Booger Kling!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's at a loss in figuring out what's going on with Tenet.

There have been some ominous events recently (Chalabi accused of being Iranian spy, Bush gets lawyer vis a vis Plame affair, DCI quits), and I sure haven't been able to put the pieces together in any way that fits. They are just lying there on the floor all separate and unconnected, mocking me...

:shrug:

[Paragon]

40. Mmm, boogers...

Munchin' on 'em keeps you healthy, haven't you heard?

[Th1onein]

85. Now that you mention it........these Repugs really like eating them......

I've seen the pics of Bush picking and eating, and today saw some pics of Kissinger picking and eating. Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

[VelmaD]

37. WOOHOO!!!

Who's up for another fun round of "Spank the Newbie". :evilgrin:

P.S. Will, you're a hell of a guy honey, but Elvis was, is, and ever shall be The King. :P

[mzmolly]

62. I have a feeling it's an oldbee?

Don't know who, but someone's got a bone to pluck. ;)

[VelmaD]

63. Ooooooh...that's even more fun

Guess the sockpuppet. :)

[FredrickDouglass]

39. One Of The Best Investigative Journalists On Earth?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
No seriously. He had to say something more than I have no idea for you to come and post it. What did he really say?

[never cry wolf]

47. What he didn't say...

in reality says quite a bit.

[Beam Me Up]

54. I'm impressed -- but why not? William Pitt IS a known author

and journalist, taken seriously by others in his field.

I also find it VERY interesting that Mr. Hersh is, or says he is, cluelless about this resignation. He is very well connected in the Intelligence field. Truly something to ponder what with everthing else that is unraveling around us.

Thanks for keeping us informed, Will.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

33. You Know What? I'm Fucking Impressed.

And I appreciate the information. Thanks Will.

DTH

[Amaya]

41. Well,....... "apathy"

some of us might be interested. Jealous are you? :eyes:

Btw, Sy, is the best. Thank you Will, keep us informed :)

[Forkboy]

42. Hey I dont like Will at all anymore

and I'm still glad he shared it.It's an interesting tidbit in a big story :shrug:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

43. I'm impressed. I'm a lesbian and now I want to make Will's dreams come

true just cause he got a call from Sy Hersch...can I ask you why you would ask such a rude question? Do we get to question everyone's motives or just Will's?

[Jacobin]

46. Dude....

As a newbie, slack is cut. Before spouting off, sit back and read the forum for a couple of weeks. You'll find that Mr. Pitt is a NYT best selling author who wrote the book before the invasion of Iraq that made an excellent case that there were no WMD's left in IraqNam.

And, obtw, I'm impressed as hell with the call he got. I love to hear from Mr. Pitt and his latest writings.

Stick around, keep your poweder dry for a time. Interesting stuff here.

:-)

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[WilliamPitt]

50. I just made wee wee on myself

Big. McLarge. And Huge.

:)

[BigMcLargehuge]

52. :)

got your back Will

[VelmaD]

53. Sorry to have to do this Will...

but I think I'm gonna have to ask BigMcLargehuge to marry me. :)

[BigMcLargehuge]

56. a little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men

thanks Velma!

[VelmaD]

59. *happy sigh*

I love that movie.

We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of dreams. :)

[Andy_Stephenson]

55. Nice!

:thumbsup:

[PopSixSquish]

57. Aaaarrrgghhhhh - I just Snorted Coca-cola Out of My Nose Again

while laughing. That makes at least 5 times while reading DU. I gotta stop drinking while posting.

[tandot]

70. Note to self: Do not go to DU while your boss is walking

by your office and can see you spitting coffee all over yourself and the office equipment.


MEGA SNARF, Thanks BigMcLargeHuge

[Paragon]

73. Is that Wee Man in the front?

Weird to see him without his skateboard or not in diapers.

[Forkboy]

83. What a shame that was deleted

that was friggin good :)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

60. Why do you insist on letting everyone know that you're...

...a low-posting flame artist? Please explain that one...I'm stumped.

[mdmc]

76. welcome to du

:hi:

[Paragon]

26. I just got a call from Sy Spurling.

Kidding, my hair's fine.

[Myra]

29. Isn't this part of the usual KKKarl Rove news management by distraction?

Since they needed to make Tenent the fall guy at some point anyway,
may as well do it when they're eager to replace the other
big news:

Der Chimp hired an attorney because of the federal grand jury
investigation of the Valarie Plame "leak."

Can't have that big ol' headline hanging out there.
Must distract the public.
Trot out Tenent.

[rumguy]

31. fuck Hersh and his tainted love

}(

[FredrickDouglass]

36. Can We Call Him Sy, Too? I Would Love That!

Oh and can you call him back and tell him we all said thx for the deep insight into this situation.

[JitterbugPerfume]

51. why don't you

just keep a lid on the snide remarks?

[thebigidea]

61. why don't you call him? His number is listed. I'm sure he'd love it.

What's that? Would the big bad journalist SCARE you?

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[iconoclastic cat]

44. Holy crap! William Pitt!

I have a feeling some here may not know you. BTW, did you ever find out who hacked TO?

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. Will Pitt is a fixture here.

We know him.

[iconoclastic cat]

66. Wow, DU just gets cooler and cooler...

If I wasn't sitting in front of a computer, I'd be really stoked.

[WilliamPitt]

67. A fixture...yeah, like the toilet handle

:)

[Beetwasher]

71. Handle? Don't Sell Yourself Short!

Your the whole damn toilet! ;-)

What up bud?! Calls from Hersch, impressive...

[htuttle]

75. I've always thought of him more like 'the fountain'

:)

[VelmaD]

74. Jeezus christ...

I managed to get all the way through this thread without snorting anything on my keyboard until just now. Now my co-workers are wondering again if I'm having a seizure or something. :crazy:

[in_cog_ni_to]

78. Not what "I" was thinking

at all, Will. My thoughts were all good and had NOTHING to do with a toilet.....honest. :hurts:

[galaca1]

79. Sy Hersch has been around a long time.

[Must_B_Free]

80. So has the New Yorker

Some people here have read it for DECADES, recalling articles that even the current New Yorker staff doesn't remember.

[Dover]

72. Was Tenet behind the raid on Chalabi's office? Is he in possession of

it's contents?

It sounded to me like Chalabi has collected some incriminating info on various people and if Tenet has it.....then perhaps he DOES have the upper hand and the element of surprise.

[alfredo]

77. You know if Sy Hersh and Sy Hersch got together, they'd

be a terrific team.

[stickdog]

82. That's about the Sys of it. (nt)

[alfredo]

86. Ouch! n/t

[Andromeda]

87. Find out more ...

and get back to us.:D

[GalleryGod]

88. I have it on "good Authority" that Sy's Sources are,indeed

Within the CIA. They were in 1969-they still are. Tenet was "pushed on his own sword".

Smells like the Mitchell Resignation to me! JOHN Mitchell that is!
:nopity: