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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:38 PM
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Who's watching this bit on the News hour about hog factory pollution?
Interesting piece on how minibrian's chaining the EPA on enforcing industrial farm regulations.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:41 PM
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1. I watched it. totally disgusting. Common people get shafted always.
Once again, the only people who really count in this country are the rich and the powerful. Corporations and conglomerates are king!! That's why it's so damned difficult to elect a decent President who has a heart and head for the people.
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:45 PM
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2. Did you hear Franken's interview with Kennedy
on Earth Day about this very same thing? Something about pigs generating 30 times the amount of waste that humans generate, a particular farm in Idaho (I believe) with 850,000 pigs generating the equivalent amount of waste that NY City does - with the exception that this waste doesn't have to be treated (thanks to Bush), not to mention the health problems this leads to downwind of this lovely, little farm, etc., etc.....
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:48 PM
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3. Franken had a bit in his book about this problem...
Including a lagoon with a fauty liner that ended up creating an explosion of what Franken Called "a geyser of shit".
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:01 PM
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4. several years ago
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 07:06 PM by rchsod
in a river in north carolina an ancient organism, that is in every river in the world, was "reborn" due to the large amounts of pig shit run off. this organism was extremely deadly and several people were taken quite ill. the cause was undetected for quite awhile until some smart investigators discovered what it was and the mechanism that caused the organism to mutate close to 17 times..it was so deadly that the airborne particles from rinsing a dry 10 gallon water tank infected the researcher lungs and he was hospitalized for several weeks..the whole sorry episode was slowly killed by the pig farm industry
opps -it attacked the fish,swimmers, and those who eat the fish. we have corperations that think nothing of creating more death and terror than any fur`n terrorists
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:05 PM
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5. There are really good alternatives.
http://www.futurenet.org/14foodforlife/devore.htm

So many are taking a different route: combining some old-fashioned animal husbandry with new, low-tech facility design and sophisticated ideas about the relationships between livestock and the land.

In dairy, beef, and poultry production, this new ecologically based farming has taken the form of management-intensive rotational grazing, a system where animals move frequently through a series of grass-filled paddocks.

But it’s the sustainable trends in hog farming that have caught the most attention recently. Hundreds of hoop houses have been erected in the Midwest in the past half-dozen years by small farmers like the Frantzens, who market about 1,200 pigs annually.

The family was sold on the system from the start. For one thing, it could be set up for about a third of the cost of a confinement facility. In addition, the pigs were healthier because they were allowed to follow their natural instincts to socialize and nest. Finally, when the manure mixed with the straw, it created a composting “pack” that kept the animals warm and served as a valuable fertilizer for crops.

Still, Tom was apprehensive about making such a significant switch from a system that had the agri-science seal of approval. His concerns were put to rest when he turned those first pigs loose in a just-completed hoop house one day in September 1997.

“They ran around all day long, and they must have run around all night long, too, because when I went out to the building the next morning I will never forget what I found,” he recalls. “I peeked into the hoop house to see 180 pigs in one massive straw nest – snoring. I laughed until I cried. Their stress was gone, and so was mine. I know I’ll never go back to confinement. Once you cross that road, there is no way you can go back.”

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:06 PM
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6. CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION, CRIMINAL INDUSTRY, SUFFERING
PLEBEIANS. It was frankly repulsive. They have sold our country, our souls, our land, our spirit. Off with their heads (figuratively, of course).
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:08 PM
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7. I had another post about the entire program. This is what I had in there:
An analysis of Tenet's resignation with Bob Graham (D-FL) and Lugar (R-Nebraska). Not really much clarification but they agreed that there was a lot of politics behind the resignation; then the PIG FARMS and the EPA sold to the pork producers (CRIMINAL); Then the stop-loss for soldiers(servitude under another name, in my opinion). They had an officer who just finished his tour in the war and who slammed the army and the politicians for trying to pretend that there are no additional costs to this war; doing it this way screws up the soldiers but mollifies the populace; the military representative defending these actions could not really do very well. It was instructive.
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