Nader Remains Skeptical About Kerry

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

I don't like Kerry's "wait and see" attitude on progressive issues, either. i remember getting sold out for 8 years by clinton/gore and i need a little more than a "trust me" and wink from the senator
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Nader Remains Skeptical About Kerry

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader (news - web sites) said Thursday he still has some reservations about Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites), particularly on energy conservation issues.


In a speech at the National Press Club, Nader recalled a recent meeting with his Democratic rival.


"He was telling me how strong he was going to be on energy efficiency and energy renewability when he is elected president, as he put it," Nader said.


Nader said he asked Kerry why more progress hadn't been made on those issues, although Massachusetts Sen. Kerry and other Democrats have pushed for changes for years.


"How are you going to break the opposition of the fossil fuel industry and the nuclear industry" to the conversion of the country to renewable energy, Nader said he asked.


"To which he said: "Wait and see when I become president."

more:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040603/ap_on_el_pr/nader&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798

[wyldwolf]

1. Not many here give a rat's ass what Nader thinks about Kerry

A few do, sure.

Personally, I think Nader is a liar and I for one don't feel sold out by Clinton/Gore.

[seabeyond]

38. actually i was coming in to say i dont give a sh*t what nadar

has to say. but dont give a rats ass works to.

shut up already nadar, no one cares. your irrelevant

[Forkboy]

2. I am too

but sadly the options afforded to us leave little choice.

He will be better than Bush,of that there is no doubt.

[Nlighten1]

14. Same here...

What can we do? Certainly this election cannot be a protest vote against the Dems. There is far too much at stake...

But then I don't really think Kerry is going to keep his campaign promises...color me skeptical.

[mzmolly]

3. He was also sceptical about Wellstone, Holt

Regarding Senators Russ Feingold (D-WI) and Paul Wellstone (D-MN), Nader said that he is willing to sacrifice them because "that's the price they're going to have to bear for letting their party go astray."

Nader was quoted in Mother Jones magazine as saying that "(Rush) Holt deserves to lose." July 2001, Mother Jones magazine.
Holt, however, has a 100% voting record rating from Americans for Democratic Action, and many other liberal organizations.

Nader is an egomanical danger to our country.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

7. he endorsed wellstone in the end

around late sept of 2002 i believe

[mzmolly]

9. deleted

dup

[mzmolly]

10. Oh how very big of him.

:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

11. doesn't redeem him in my eyes

If Nader endorses Kerry "in the end," will Kerry suddenly be OK with Naderites?

[The Magistrate]

4. This Is Hardly News, Sir

Wrecker Nader clings to his claim there is no difference between the candidates, and presses on with his campaign of assistance to the criminals of the '00 Coup, who he worked so hard last time around to put into office....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[VolcanoJen]

5. Tomorrow's Headline: "Kerry remains skeptical about Nader"

As do I, as do I.

[oasis]

6. What negative things did Nader have to say about Grover Norquist ?

Ralph can take a flying leap.

[NNadir]

23. None. Nader obeys the first law of Republicans, and doesn't criticize his

spiritual kinsmen.

It's nice to see Nader being more obvious about his political sympathies this year, since he's running on the same line once held by his Nazi good buddy, Pat Buchanan, the Reich, whoops I mean, Reform Party.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. I remain skeptical about Nader.

:grr:

[AlCzervik]

12. Anybody that blindly follows is a sheep

I have my doubts about Kerry but on his worst day he's 1000 times better than Dim-son on his best day. Ralph, get over yourself.

[jpgray]

13. Everyone should view Kerry carefully

Holding him to a high standard is good, not bad. I think most people agree he should receive a progressive's vote in November, but one can still remain skeptical of Kerry while supporting him for the presidency.

[wyldwolf]

16. That may be true for some, but it shouldn't be because Nader says so

[mzmolly]

17. Everyone should view NADER carefully

as well... Unfortunately that doesn't generally happen. He's not really in a position of much scrutiny himself, yet he feels compelled to scrutinize others.

What a total joke this guy is. And a dangerous one at that.

[jpgray]

18. Very true. Too many believe Nader's rhetoric about himself

His rhetoric about others is far more accurate. Please people, do take a look at his protfolio and financial dealings, or do a search for one of the many threads here on the subject. There is a lot of hypocrisy there--not so much to make him unique as a politician, but as the 'conscience candidate' who is supposed to oppose corporate evil, it's pretty disappointing.

But ANY politician should not be taken at face value, or even at major media value.

[Forkboy]

22. But

doesn't this apply to any of us here as well?

He's not really in a position of much scrutiny himself, yet he feels compelled to scrutinize others.

We certainly aren't shy about scrutinizing others ourselves.Nader gets FAR more scrutiny than you imply.Just look at the amount of Nader threads today :)

[mzmolly]

25. He gets scrutiny from a bunch of lefties at DU. But, the media has

given him a free ride as a heroic *liberal* who has fought the good fight on behalf of the people. :eyes:

They rarely talk about the fact that he busted several unions, and owns stock in many companies he claims to loathe, is a hypochondriac, owns stock in Walmart/Haliburtion etc etc .

January 8, 2001: FTR 264 - "Darth Nader: Ralph Nader's Politics of Hypocrisy" | Listen

http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=1068

A recap of what the audio entails.

http://www.spitfirelist.com/f264.html

[mzmolly]

15. "Wait and see when I become president."

And he would accept this answer himself?! This is totally NADER. He gives vague answers to questions whilst being critical of politicians who actually have to participate in our democracy.

He is playing people for fools, and loving every minute of it. What a shame he makes such a mockery of liberals. :(

[Old and In the Way]

20. Kerry should buy him off......

Create a honorarium for Ralph. Lecturer-Laureate of the United States. His insights will then be appreciated by the tens of Americans who really care what he thinks.

[Sterling]

19. I think most people are.

I would say in this elecction most people are voting against a candidate rather than for one. Its sad. I don't think it speaks well for our party either.

[NNadir]

21. Why is it a surprise when the Republicans, including Nader, hate Kerry?

I don't give a fuck what the weasly little Repukes think. Cheney-Nader-Bush is finished.

[Forkboy]

24. Nader and kerry didn't sound like they hated each other

when they met recently :shrug:

[NNN0LHI]

30. Well then tell us then. Just how did they sound?

:shrug:

[Forkboy]

31. Sounded friendly to me

I doubt they are buddy buddy or anything but the poster claimed he hated Kerry.Do you have any evidence that Nader hates Kerry?

[NNN0LHI]

32. I have no evidence that Kerry hates Nader. Nor have I suggested that

What is your evidence that they sounded friendly to one another as you are suggesting?

Don

[Forkboy]

34. You seemed upset that I questioned the other poster

You didn't suggest it yourself,but you seemed to be attacking me for not agreeing with the other poster.If that's a misunderstanding I apologize for the confusion.

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Both sides described the tone of the meeting as courteous and not contentious, and a Kerry campaign official said the candidate was prepared to continue the dialogue as the campaign year goes along. Similarly, Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe has kept an open line to Nader, mindful of Nader's complaints that he was shunned by Gore and the party four years ago, although McAuliffe never fails to urge Nader to give up his candidacy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41036-2004May19.html

Following the meeting, Nader said the two discussed a variety of issues, but Kerry never asked him to abandon his independent campaign.

“He’s a gentleman and he understands we all have to do what we have to do, as he put it,” Nader said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5008072/

Nader, who posed for pictures inside with Kerry but uncharacteristically avoided reporters outside, issued a statement calling the session "productive and positive." Kerry campaign aide Steve Elmendorf described it as "very friendly" and "useful."

In a telephone interview, Nader said the talks revolved largely around issues on which both agree, including "ending corporate welfare as we know it" and avoiding "a repeat of the Katherine Harris situation," a reference to the disputed Florida vote count in the last presidential election.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.kerry20may20,0,7501251.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines


Like I said Don,I dont propose they are the best of friends and go to hockey games together or anything.However,NNadir posited that "Nader hates Kerry" and that's easily proven to be false,as I've just done.

[NNN0LHI]

37. No apologies are needed. I can see what caused the confusion now

:hi:

[Forkboy]

40. That's cool

I've got enough enemies here.I didn't want to add you to the list...you're one of the good ones. :D

[kalian]

26. Valid concerns....

unfortunaely, the "ABB crowd" is just "ABB"...and don't really
question the candidate that they support. :eyes:

[mzmolly]

28. My arse! Check the archives or even the first page, you will see

plenty of scrutiny of John Kerry from the so called ABB crowd.

Please don't mistake my pragmitism for blind allegiance again.

[kalian]

33. Its blind allegience....enjoy it....

[mzmolly]

35. Hmmm, that's as profound as the babble from Mr. Nader himself

;)

No one has scrutinized Kerry more than I. However, I've also scrutinized Bush and Nader, and Kerry is far more deserving of the Presidency then either.

[kalian]

36. That's right...swear allegience to the political duo-poly

that controls our country. Never allow a third party to gain control.
:eyes: Flip the coin...heads-dems, tails-repukes...still the same
coin....

[mzmolly]

39. "Du-opoly" My how that word always crops up when we run out of a real

argument doesn't it?

I would love to see many political parties, but that doesn't mean Nader isn't a lying hypocrite.

[John_H]

27. Ralph wants to know if he should go long or short on Occidental

Gotta keep making that money in the fossil fules biz if Kerry wins, eh Ralphie?

[Oddman]

29. Oh, I'm sorry - this is Naderitesunderground

I thought it was the Democraticunderground.

Why does anyone care what the bush enabler Nader thinks anyway???

Anyone who would even consider voting for this guy should check themselves into the nearest mental health facility . . .


Thank god there are morans who
will still vote for me.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

41. Who gives a damn what Nader thinks about anyone?