What the F is going on? Let me hear your interpretation:

[Stephanie]

This is the one of the most mysterious days in my memory. I'm only getting the gist - too busy to delve into all the details. To those who've had some time to study the situation, I'd love to know:

WHAT do you think is going on?

Is Tenet with BushCO, or against BushCO?

[kentuck]

1. If it were a chess game...?

You would be scratching your head wondering why the white knight just allowed himself to be captured by a black pawn? It doesn't make sense...yet.

[Sparkly]

2. I think he's with Bushco and falling on the sword

based on his testimony, etc... But who knows?

[KissMyAsscroft]

3. Hes with them....

He's falling on the sword for them..it's easier to blame an agency tham to let the President take the fall...the blame can be spread and no one is personally damaged by the fall...

This is the best option for them to escape the consequences of their actions. It was their back up plan from the start...all else fails, blame the intelligence agencies.

[bhunt70]

4. Im putting my money on AGAINST

I think he's loyal to the CIA and that the using of the CIA as a scapegoat got to him. He takes himself out of the equation to get some of the heat taken off the company and he can stop pretending to be a lap dog and start fighting back.

[Stephanie]

7. I wonder about this

I wonder if the CIA is waging war, and Tenet fell on his sword for the CIA, not for BushCO?

[Trajan]

63. I agree with you(s) ...

I think He is against: I think he is sick of being Bush's fall guy, and I think the CIA as a whole is ready to stick it to the Fratboy ... I think the Chalabi Affair is the last straw: Chalabi being rejected by the CIA years ago, while the Neocon WH embraced him as their own: to the Nation's detriment ...

I heard today: somewhere, that Bush didnt know Tenet was going to resign until yesterday ... hardly likely if this was engineered by the WH ....

Something big is going on, and I dont think Bush is gonna like it ...

[blm]

83. I'm with you on that notion, bhunt70.

I think there are too many good guys in the CIA lining up against the Bush loyalist thugs there. Tenet has to know this.

[burythehatchet]

5. I think its as simple as Tenet coming to the realization

that bush knew about Plame's outing. He drew the line there. He could not cover up for him any more. I don't think he'll do him in, I just think that he reached his limit. Another casualty of the lying sack of shit.

[Warpy]

6. That's my take as well

..only with the addition of an ongoing power struggle between the Pentagon intelligence office and the CIA. I think Tenet read the writing on the wall there, too, with Bush obviously in on the Plame outing, and hostile to a CIA which contradicted his lies on Iraq and had serious misgivings about his anointed strongman, Chalabi.

[Stephanie]

11. I feel that the neo-cons, Chalabi, and Plame are at the heart of it

But who is playing what hand, I can't tell.

[janx]

62. Absolutely. All three. But it's difficult to understand the specifics.

People are deliberately trying to obscure things now, probably. One thing is clear:

Neocons + Chalabi + Plame = Tenet must go.

[Stephanie]

9. That's a very interesting possibility

If Bush knew, and Tenet knew Bush knew.....

But why does he have to step down? Why not take Bush down instead?

[molly]

13. He loves life

and he has a family.

[Stephanie]

17. Of course, I had forgotten

We're dealing with the Corleone family here.

But you'd think, if there was anyone to battle them, it would be the CIA chief - especially when his tribe has been betrayed by them in the Plame case.

[berry]

38. Tenet said quite clearly the reason was the "well being" of his family.

That struck me quite forcibly.

[burythehatchet]

16. Why not take Bush down?

To do so would be suicide. If sliming him doesn't work, kill him.

[Fleshdancer]

23. What was it that Jon Stewart said last night???.....

"He wants to persue his life long dream of dying of natural causes"

It wasn't about Tenet, but I think it applies to him pretty well.

[IranianDemocrat]

51. LOL, I remember Jon said that.

I believe about adnan pachachi.

[libhill]

36. Too dangerous

the guy has a family to think about, and the Bushies would either arrange an "accident" or ruin the man with bullshit lies and vitriol.

[Eloriel]

49. Maybe he'll do both?

I don't like Tenet or trust him (he is, after all, a spook), but between Bush and Tenet, I trust Tenet slightly more.

Again and again and again the CIA has taken the blame or the brunt of really stooopid Bush Admin policies or actions. Again and again Tenet has been accommodating -- up to a point. (Altho there was that little matter about all the CIA "leaks" about the "evidence" for the war. Seems to me if those weren't "authorized," heads would've rolled. Which is probably why I tend to see Tenet more on "our" side than Bush's, tho he's played a very good role as double agent of sorts.)

Plus, in LBN there's a story I haven't read yet that there are THREE highly critical of the CIA reports about to break. Hey, who needs it? It's been my understanding (from the leaks and from some of Tenet's own remarks and actions) that the CIA knew the truth about WMD, etc., and yet were forced again and again to take the bullet for Bush, et. al.

So I think:

a.) Tenet is fed up, tired of this shit and is getting out right NOW to sidestep the storm of unwarranted criticism about to break. Andrea Mitchell said he was "tired of the pressure" earlier today on MSNBC. She found herself also saying, "He's already lost one key ally..." then had a brief shocked and remorseful look on her face as if to say, "oh, I shouldn't have gone there," paused briefly and then with a resigned look on her face went on with her story, saying that Powell is now criticizing the CIA for having given him the wrong data which he then took to the U.N. (IMO, Powell is just being an ass-covering opportunist with that sort of talk. He knew the score, but like Chalabi he's egregiously piling on Tenet/the CIA knowing he's got cover from these reports and that Tenet really can't fight back, at least not publicly.)

b.) It's possible (I'm hoping) that he MAY be interested in helping Bush's fall and might be able to do more on the outside than on the inside -- quietly, of course. I doubt there'll be any tell-all book of any kind.

[Stephanie]

52. option b. seems implausible

Fighting from the outside? I know it's been a pattern, with all the defectors, such as Clarke, but if he really wanted to fight wouldn't he hang on to all his power?

That Powell would chicken out again is appalling. If that is the case then I would understand Tenet getting out, because he can't win. If Powell has sold out Tenet then he is the biggest whore in DC.

[Eloriel]

71. Maybe you're reading it a little too literally

If he didn't have to bone up for Congressional hearings, sit with his boss who can't read once each day, run an agency under fire, fend off criticisms from all directions, he'd have a lot more time -- and the freedom -- to leak stuff to the press and coordinate leaks and such to the press and whatever else can be done to further the cause.

I don't know that I'm right. I did say it was a bit of wishful thinking, tho bouyed up a bit by the fact that he IS very loyal to the CIA, the CIA HAS done a lot of strategic leaking, and it's been well-publicized here a number of different times (including tonight via a report on Anna Quinlan's appearance on Nightline): don't fuck with the CIA.

And we ALL know the CIA has been seriously fucked with.

I will also point out that it's been my experience that people rarely do things for JUST one reason. I never do. I may have a main reason, but I can't think of a single instance of a major decision which didn't have a whole lotta supporting reasons. People get fed up with their jobs -- the management or the boringness or whatever -- and then they think to themselves, "Yeah, and they don't pay me very well, either." Voila! A decision gets made about changing.

In any case, I reallly have NO doubt that his purported reason is also true. It's possible it's the ONLY reason, but I think human nature supports the idea that there are probably other reasons as well. I hope my little anti-Bush Admin conspiracy theory is among them.

[Stephanie]

79. I hope you're right

You usually are.

[PurityOfEssence]

76. Powell is a coward of the soul

It amazes me why so many people--even here--think he's anything but a self-serving opportunist. Trust your instincts on this one: he's a functionary with delusions of personhood, and his vanity knows no bounds.

[never cry wolf]

32. I think you may be right

He has drawn a line and can no longer play the faithful soldier and just wants out. He has covered up too much for these shits.

I bet he has dirt on everyone and the meeting in the evening with shrubbie, cheney et al included some real hardball. He has the goods and has them backed up in case of an "accident." Still, "accidents" happen so a compromise was reached. It's about the only thing that makes sense.

[bklyncowgirl]

77. I tend to agree with you

From what I've read Tenet likes Bush personally.

When the Plame leak first came out Bush, I'm sure, reassured Tenet personally that he had nothing to do with it. Tenet gave Bush the benefit of a doubt. The Plame investigation gets close to Bush. Bush gets himself a lawyer. Tenet realizes he's been had--Bush iied to him.

Tenet resigns the day after Bush lawyers up. Please tell me that's not a coincidence.

[BillZBubb]

8. Tenet's a Bush* stooge.

He's allowed his agency and himself to be made into the scapegoats for the incompetence of Bush*. No doubt he lost the confidence inside the agency for being a toady.

He won't change his stripes just because he's fallen on his sword for Bush*. He'll continue to cover for the Resident.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

53. You really haven't been paying attention, have you?...

Think back to the exposure of Plame and her network...

1. Who gave former CIA operatives permission to speak to the media about their anger about Plame's exposure?

2. Who formally requested that the DOJ open an investigation into who had revealed Plame's identity?

3. Who advised Junior NOT to use any mention of Iraqi WMDs in his State of the Union speech?

4. Who advised Powell NOT to use any mention of Iraqi WMDs in his UN speech?

5. Who pulled the CIA out of any of the new, stepped-up, and more widespread interrogations to be used in Iraq?

6. Who has orchestrated the continuous stream of leaks against the NeoCons since the exposure of Plame, or at the very least, looked the other way as it was happening?

7. People inside the Agency are PISSED now that Tenet is gone...so much for any "lost confidence" from that direction.

8. Tenet had lots of powerful friends on both sides of the aisle in Congress...they're not happy with this turn of events either.

9. The fact that he has now resigned places Tenet OUTSIDE the control of the NeoCons...imagine what he can say now when he goes before any of the ongoing hearings.

I could go on for quite a while, but you need to understand that you couldn't possibly be more wrong.

[BillZBubb]

82. Oops, you're right!

I imagined Tenet sitting right behind Colon Bowel at the U.N.! Silly me. And since Tenet signed off on all of Bowel's bullshit, I guess I should have realized he's really on our side!!!! He was just throwing them off the track.

Yes, you could go on for quite a while, I'm sure. But, you'll never understand that you are totally wrong.

[0007]

10. Tenet is with junior and is setting up some Generals that must

take a lick for the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. George will take the money and then catch a dummy.

Hoping to protect junior from a life full of shame.

[Stephanie]

40. It's interesting that Abu Ghraib has disappeared from the headlines

It's just a week ago that Bush was repeatedly and variously mispronouncing Abu Ghraib in his big speech on the five point plan for Iraq.

[0007]

46. There are five or six investigations going on right.

It should come back into the spotlight fairly soon.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

55. Please read my Post #53.

[kentuck]

12. He'll lay low and see who makes the best offer....

and it'll probably be some company with connections to Poppy Bush?

[Martin Eden]

14. Don't count on Tenet spilling the beans

He got into bed with the Bushies, and he couldn't do a tell-all without implicating himself as well. Besides, I don't think he's the type.

I don't know why he resigned or if he was pushed out, but he and the Bushies have too much to lose by turning on each other. Tenet probably wouldn't hesitate to bring them down if it would help to save his own ass, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that happy scenario.

[Beetwasher]

15. One Thing I Feel Intuitively Is That This WAS A Surprise to Bushco

His leaving and now Pavitt leaving. This leads me to believe something is happening and moves are being made that Bushco. is NOT PRIVY to.

The most frightening scenario that I can't shake from thinking about is that these guys are getting out now because they know something bad is coming down the pike and they don't want to be blamed yet again when it happens.

[KittyWampus]

24. I Believe Pavitt Might Have Given Damaging Testimony Re:Bush

Rove found out and forced Tenet to resign ASAP.

This gives GOP scapegoat & diversion.

[Stephanie]

26. I missed this - who is Pavitt?

And one thing I forgot about - the neo-cons have had to take POLYGRAPHS in the Chalabi case! They are so on the ropes!

[Old and In the Way]

18. Tenet should have quit after 9/11.

Staying on has allowed him to be a useful tool for this administration; he seems to have been set-up, again, on the bad intel on the Iraqi War, too. I think the latest revelation of the secret Iran codes being given up to Chalabi was the last straw for even him. Somehow, they'll be blaming that on the CIA, too.

[Stephanie]

20. Maybe that's it

Maybe that unprecedented breach pushed him over the edge?

We have a WH and Pentagon of Robert Hansens. They are no better, in fact worse, than him.

[JPJones]

19. The other shoe will be...

the number of boards of directors Tenet is appointed to in the next few months.

He fell on the sword. CIA will take the blame for Iraq, and for good measure they'll be blamed for Sept. 11, even though it was an FBI f-up.

The wild card will be - the CIA staffers who don't like taking the blame and start giving 'interesting' stories to the NY Times.

I believe the new CIA director will be Gen. Boykin.

[Stephanie]

22. Boykin!!!!!

I hope that is a joke. If you are serious then it's time to leave the country once and for all, it is lost.

[Octafish]

21. Bush is sending a message, BFEE-style.

Did Tenet get canned because of Cha-Cha-Chalabi-Neocon leak? Was Chalabi the spy case that broke the DCI’s backsides?

There's been a lot of chatter lately about all the leaks out of the CIA that have done wonders to torpedo the BFEE:

* Chalabi
* Plame Grand Jury
* No WMD Intel

It seems to me Bush decided to dump Tenet and install some super-loyal BFEE mastermind in the job. The job of fooling the sheep, stealing the election, winning the illegal and immoral war, wasn't getting done with the super-loyal George Tenet.

Maybe the BFEE's tossing him overboard was meant to do more than feed the fish. Maybe it was meant to warn the sharks.

And in dumping Tenet, Bushco can bring in someone even more, um, loyal (beholden) to the BFEE. Maybe the new DCI will be the giant turd reported on DU today, the HARKEN Energy Harvard boosting CIA 9-11 Put-Option loving bed-wetter, Buzzy Krongard.

Naming Krongard would instill fear in the BFEE's primary nemesis: the CIA higher-ups who actually believe in, and are loyal to, the Constitution. With Krongard, or whatever new BFEE superturd gets the job would know THEIR days are numbered.

Bush's lips may be moving, but it's the BFEE that's sending a message. He's telling the career CIA he doesn't care what they think. Sure, they can leak. But remember what happened to Valerie Plame and her network. The same could happen to them, or worse.

Remember what happened to Kenny Lay's Old Number 2, Cliff Baxter? The new guy, whether its the gold-plated megaturd Krongard or whoever, will bring the hammer of America's Dictator, the Little Turd from Crawford. No matter who it is, we're in for a long, hard slog to November.

[Stephanie]

25. Ratshot to the head

Everyone's first choice of "suicide" methods.

You're interpretation scares me. I am sure that CIA and State have teamed up to take down the neo-cons. I have seen this ever since the Plame story broke. CIA demanded that investigation - they forced FBI to undertake it.

When Tenet was forced to take the fall in the Niger/16 words deal, I felt he would pay them back for that.

The neo-cons, and that means CHENEY, are in free-fall, and the Chalabi case is about to break their backs. Whatever they can do to fight it they will do.

This is all about CHENEY.

In Watergate they said: Follow the Money.

I think now we need to say: Watch Cheney.

[Octafish]

27. Power is what they crave and Cheney is the seat of power.

If you got the power, you can print the money.



Here's Sneer with his Old Man. Both look like they're into the finer things in life.

[Stephanie]

28. THAT is a fabulous picture!

Where did you ever find that?

[Octafish]

33. GOOGLED "cheney" and it "Popped" up.

Or should it be "Poppy-d" up?



Seeing how Sneer says he's religious, I guess he has a "Higher Father," too.

[DemonFighterLives]

30. You got that right Octafish

These guys are not playing chess. The one that appears to win could lose in the end. Bush is still playing on Poppy's trump suit, but there are rogue elements in the CIA that are not going to follow along. Let's hope that some brave Americans rise out of their ranks.

[Octafish]

35. The good guys are in the majority, DemonFighterLives!

What makes things interesting -- besides the obvious questions of life-or-death, war-or-peace, feudalism-or-freedom -- is who controls the levers of power?

It's happened to the BFEE before -- in 1960, 1974 and now 2004, so it's no wonder they are running scared. Their unctuous claws on the wheel, they can see there are hundreds of people standing just outside the wheelhouse and are putting a crowbar to the water-tight hatch.

So, Smirk and Sneer and the rest of them are starting to run scared. Our job is to spread the Truth and be there to be counted with these good Americans in the CIA and State (and the Pentagon and across the entire country )when the spaghetti hits the fan.

And if you see any suspicious looking individuals, or find any suspicious looking packages, please report him, her, it or them immediately to General Ashcan.



EdiT: type O + 1960 JFK beat Nixon. 1964! I thought of the good guys getting the truth out about the assassination. But, that never happened. The BFEE crosses party and ideological lines to accomplish its nefarious ways.

[Stephanie]

37. What if it is the career CIA forcing Tenet out??

What if this is an internal putsch?

[Octafish]

39. The good guys might win.

Seriously. These good career people have given their lives, fortunes and sacred honor for the good of the nation. They see what kind of people Bush and the BFEE really are.

And like Kenny Boy Who? and the rest of the top minions, Sneer, Poppy, Fredo, Jebthro and the rest will use anyone and everyone beneath them. That's the only chance they have.

But either way, was it the BFEE or the careerists, there are many good people who are plenty steamed over Plame. They must have blown their neck bolts when Chalabi sold us out to Iran. And Chalabi said he got his dope from a "drunk," although that could describe just about anybody from PNAC.



But then one name comes quickly to mind...

[Stephanie]

42. That "drunk" comment is absolutely fascinating.

Drunk.

Perle? Francophile, oenophile, gourmand.

Cheney? Four DUI's.

Bush Jr.? Pretzel accident victim.

[Octafish]

68. DDO James PAVITT calls it a career, too.

Wasn't this guy PLAME's boss?

Second top official to quit CIA

The latest move follows the resignation of George Tenet

A second top CIA official is to retire from his post, less than a day after the surprise resignation of the agency's director George Tenet.

James Pavitt, deputy director for operations, who was in charge of the agency's spies, is said to have made the decision some weeks ago.

The CIA says Mr Pavitt's decision was unconnected with Mr Tenet's departure.

But analysts say the move will mean more upheaval at a critical time for the agency.

CONTINUED...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3775423.stm

[Media_Lies_Daily]

56. Tenet WAS one of the career CIA people, and very well-liked...

...by his fellow CIA employees. Tenet was with the CIA from 1978 until 2004...26 years.

[Octafish]

59. He was a Senate and NSC staff guy for a while...

...unless he WAS with CIA before then.

George J. Tenet

The Director of Central Intelligence

George John Tenet was sworn in as Director of Central Intelligence on 11 July 1997 following a unanimous vote by both the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the full Senate. In this position he heads the Intelligence Community (all foreign intelligence agencies of the United States) and directs the Central Intelligence Agency.

Mr. Tenet served as the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, having been confirmed in that position in July 1995. Following the departure of John Deutch in December 1996, he served as Acting Director.

Mr. Tenet previously served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Intelligence Programs at the National Security Council. While at the NSC, he coordinated Presidential Decision Directives on ''Intelligence Priorities,'' ''Security Policy Coordination,'' ''US Counterintelligence Effectiveness,'' and ''US Policy on Remote Sensing Space Capabilities.'' He also was responsible for coordinating all interagency activities concerning covert action.

Prior to serving at the National Security Council, he served on President Clinton's national security transition team. In this capacity, he coordinated the evaluation of the US Intelligence Community. Mr. Tenet also served as Staff Director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for over four years under the chairmanship of Senator David Boren. In this capacity he was responsible for coordinating all of the Committee's oversight and legislative activities including the strengthening of covert action reporting requirements, the creation of a statutory Inspector General at CIA, and the introduction of comprehensive legislation to reorganize US intelligence.

Prior to his appointment as Staff Director, Mr. Tenet directed the Committee's oversight of all arms control negotiations between the Soviet Union and the United States, culminating in the preparation of a report to the US Senate on ``The Ability of US Intelligence to Monitor the Intermediate Nuclear Force Treaty.'' Mr. Tenet came to the Committee in August of 1985, as designee to the Vice Chairman, Senator Patrick Leahy, after working three years on the staff of Senator John Heinz as both a legislative assistant covering national security and energy issues and as legislative director.

Mr. Tenet holds a B.S.F.S. from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service and an M.I.A. from the School of International Affairs at Columbia University.

He is a native of New York and is married to A. Stephanie Glakas-Tenet. They have one son, John Michael.

Page last updated: Fri May 9 07:49:59 2003.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/tenet.html

[Stephanie]

61. Oops!

Now you've blown my cover.

[berry]

72. Tenet worked for Sen John Heinz for 3 years

according to this bio you posted:
"three years on the staff of Senator John Heinz as both a legislative assistant covering national security and energy issues and as legislative director"

Presumably he knew Teresa from those days. I wonder if this means anything.

[Stephanie]

60. So you think this is the neo-cons winning a round against CIA/State?

Cheney threw his weight around and got Tenet out?

[makhno]

45. Exactly

Good old boys at the CIA thinking they're still working under the old ROE, leaking this or that, hoping that a match will start a wildfire.

Well, the admin's got news for them - you don't fuck with the PNAC masterplan. This is so reminiscent of Stalin's rise to power and the purges, it isn't even funny.

[Stephanie]

48. So Cheney & neo-cons will fight unto the death?

You think Cheney pulled a power-play on Tenet and took him out just as multiple investigations are zeroing in on his office?

[makhno]

58. Indeed

As Octafish said, it's a warning to the sharks that might be circling the PNAC wreck. Cheney, Rice, the rest of the oil cabal, along with the ideological core of the administration - Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith - must've had the goods on Tenet, and if the DCI allowed himself to be set up this way, these guys must have some serious firepower at their disposal. Any investigations currently underway are the work of either the DOJ or Congress, both of which answer to the same PNAC interests as they're investigating. It's a clusterfuck; all that "checks and balances" stuff we were indoctrinated with is gone.

It might sound like hyperbole, but what I think these bastards are doing is dismantling the Constitution and selling out what remains of US power to their own narrow constituencies, the American people be damned.

[Octafish]

50. Remember Solzhenitsyn's 'Gulag Archipelago?'

Must be where I subconciously picked up the analogy. How as a kid I wept for Russia and then the Soviets. Now I weep for my America, our United States.

Well, enough feeling sorry for myself. Time to LOL at the BFEE!



Remember "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich?" His sentence was ... 10 years?

EdIT: tiipo

[Alerter_]

54. good analysis, Octafish

"Naming Krongard would instill fear in the BFEE's primary nemesis: the CIA higher-ups who actually believe in, and are loyal to, the Constitution. With Krongard, or whatever new BFEE superturd gets the job would know THEIR days are numbered."

This worries me. I hope that Kerry can withstand the assault he is going to receive in the near future. These crooks play dirty. I'm at a loss trying to understand this Chalabi/Iran situation, thanks for helping me make sense of it.

[Octafish]

66. Thanks, Alerter! We must spread the word: The good guys aren't alone!

And we're mad as hell and we aren't gonna take it anymore.



These bedwetters do play dirty. So we gotta play smart. And that's why we're for Kerry.

As a prosecutor, Kerry knows how to get to the Truth of the matter. Consider BCCI -- that's where all the goldplated nutjobs of the BFEE spring, from Iran-contra drug running to international terror financing to lining their own personal pockets with petrodollars.

We've got to protect Kerry, physically by our numbers; intellectually through the news media, workplaces, academia and person-to-person; and spiritually through our thoughts and prayers.

[fishnfla]

29. The SIC report

He saw the handwriting on the wall (a novel< it was)

That or last time Jon Stewart asked" just what the fuck does this guy have to do tp get fired?"

[KC21304]

31. He is with BushCo. He slobbered all over Bush in his speech today.

Tenet knew the three reports coming out are going to be very hard on him so he decided ( with a little help from Bush and who knows who else ) to skip out before the shit hits the fan and try to spare himself and Bush a little embarrassment. He never mentioned Clinton in his little trip down memory lane today.

[libhill]

41. Do you mean that -

the old "let`s blame everything on Clinton`s pecker" ploy is wearing thin? I`d never have believed it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

57. You obviously don't know George Tenet, do you?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

34. He's falling on his sword. nt

[Stephanie]

43. They have been screaming about an imminent terra attack

Is that the reason? They're ready to LIHOP again and they want Tenet out first, or Tenet wants out first?

[maggrwaggr]

74. that occurred to me

as a possibility. The other was that Tenet may have finally figured out that 9/11 was MIHOP or LIHOP.

Pure speculation of course.

[Imperialism Inc.]

44. Way too much for me to process.

Holy crap. I've never seen such a storm.

Been trying to keep up since the afternoon, but by the time I make it to the latest breaking stuff there are already like 200 posts in 3 different thread.

Here is what I got so far:
CIA's Tenet resigned
CIA's James Pavitt
UN's Brahimi called Bremer a dictator of Iraq

and that is all I have been able to keep in my head at once.

Going to review this thead now and see what else I've missed.

[Imperialism Inc.]

47. Double posted

[TruthIsAll]

64. If he's taking the fall for Bush, he's taking the fall for a traitor....

and I don't believe Tenet would let Bush get away with the outing of a CIA asset (Plame).

So there is your answer. Short and sweet.

He will bring down Bush, not protect him.

[Stephanie]

65. That's the answer I prefer

I have been hoping Tenet is orchestrating a take-down of Bush/Cheney & the neo-cons. The recent announcement that Bush had to hire counsel and would be deposed in the Plame case - with his thin skin that had to be GALLING.

And the Chalabi leak - any decent person would drop the gloves over a betrayal like that.

They have the neo-cons taking POLYGRAPH tests.

SO, I think you could be right that this is a power play by Cheney & the neo-cons to stop Tenet's criminal investigations against them.

[Jose Diablo]

73. Yep, I see it this way too

Neocons fighting to hold on. Next step? The lower level neocons have been very depressed lately, maybe even suicidal. Tenet out of the way means every one for themselves, sort of a anarchy revolt of white hats vs black hats. Like those cartoons in "what, me worry?". Gloves off.

But what to make of the worlds naval fleets steaming out to sea for 'exersize'? Now that is strange. Positioning for a little bit of slapping each other around? A full fledged break-out of hostilities? Making sure they are out of port, and danger?

Much of our ground troops tied-up in Iraq. Anyone left here?

What is it that we are not seeing?

Bush* tucked away safely overseas in his good buds domicile. Like always, a chickenshit hiding-out? Certainly not at his post.

Where is Cheney? Locked down in his bunker?

An interesting week. Next few weeks should be more interesting. Something big going down, but what?

[Stephanie]

78. I think those ships are headed to N Korea

Maybe to provoke an incident? Bush can't win without a new war.

[Andromeda]

75. That's what I believe too.

I really don't believe Tenet has any loyalty to Bush and his cohorts in crime.

The book will be written and the truth will come out.

[banana republican]

67. Assuming Gore comments are correct

and the T* is an honorable individual; Then given the fact that two people have resigned indicates that B* is in deep dodo.

People don't quit jobs for "personal reasons" unless it is *very* personal reason (e.g. don't fly on airplanes; don't leap from tall buildings or grandma has cancer) and two people don't quite unless there is a problem.

The EPA should rate the smell factor at a 10+

Question: Was T* asked to nuke Boston during the DNC?????

[donhakman]

69. This Feb. Richard Perle said...

"Heads will roll at the CIA"


I did this back then

[Stephanie]

80. For what?

What is he blaming on CIA? All the screw-ups come straight from the neo-cons. And why is he talking at all? Who is listening. The guy is a a con artist.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

70. I don't know but there's a hilarious

thread being played out on a debate board I lurk on which will not be named here. There are mostly liberals with a generous sprinkling of moderate, though definitely not frothing at the mouth, conservatives, and about three or four freepers. Odd mix, I know. Oh and there are two Libertarians and some Europeans and Australians, as well. Makes for interesting debates, lemme tell ya.

Well the board is going CRAZY over this Tenet resignation. Right in the middle of all of it, several of them realized that people from exact opposite sides of the spectrum were arguing the same thing to each other and they kinda called a time out and decided that they had to "decide if we are supposed to be happy Tenet resigned or not" depending on whether they are a bush supporter or not.

O the confusion abounds!

Only the two Libertarians are ok with it all. They are just sitting back and chuckling.

[Beetwasher]

81. RELEVANT ARTICLE

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides

--snip--

The President's abrupt dismissal of CIA Directory George Tenet Wednesday night is, aides say, an example of how he works.

"Tenet wanted to quit last year but the President got his back up and wouldn't hear of it," says an aide. "That would have been the opportune time to make a change, not in the middle of an election campaign but when the director challenged the President during the meeting Wednesday, the President cut him off by saying 'that's it George. I cannot abide disloyalty. I want your resignation and I want it now."

Tenet was allowed to resign "voluntarily" and Bush informed his shocked staff of the decision Thursday morning. One aide says the President actually described the decision as "God's will."

--snip--

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml

If this reported behavior is true, it would explain a lot. Take the source w/ a grain of salt though. Personally, I find this EASY to belive.

If this is true, expect many more abrubt departures soon in the vein of Tenet and Pavitt. People will start distancing themselves from the madman in droves.

This has also been pretty accurately predicted on DU through our off the cuff psychological profiling. This reported behavior is exactly what I would expect under the given circumstances.