Reagan haters, thanks for showing me that

[Stew225]

it's time I take a break from this spiritually enlightened group. Color me weird, but I, er, hate hate. That's why, I think, I'm a liberal.

Last night I watched a movie with my 14 year old daughter and my wife. The movie had possiblities except for the gratuitous and wanton use of the f word (for you gratuitous and wanton people, that's FUCK). Of course, this masterpiece of art was laden with many sexual scenes that, ironically, turned me off. (sidebar: I'm a "normal" guy who loves to f, uh, fun, er, have fun, yeah, a normal guy who loves to have fun)

Anywho, what the Pope (sidebar: I'm a fallen away Catholic who despises the hypocrisy of the church) said, (or at least tried to spit it out, from what I hear) about the decaying Western culture is, in my humid opinion, right on the money (our God, of course). You're sharp, you can see it everywhere in our culture. It's become "cool" apparently. Well, so has hating.

We see so many people blown away on tv that when it happens in real life it's no big deal. Our western culture has become inhumanly and, more importantly, inhumanely desensitized to the point of sorrow.

So let's kick Reagan when he and his family are down. God knows you have a right to do that because you're the only one on this planet that knows anything. You've never done anything stupid or shameful. So, like the guards in Abu Gharib, get some sadistic verbal kicks in there and it'll make you feel like a real hard ass. Screw the family that's going through hell. Ronnie was a politician and a Republican at that. That translates to his inherent beastly being.

Those who hope that he goes to hell are a disgrace to not only our party but our culture. Maybe those are the people that haven't been through sorrow or tragedy, much like the Chicken Hawks, who espouse the toughness of our country while not being able to relate to the horrors of real war. It's only a movie anyway, right?

I gotta take a break from this place (and after only a tad over a hundred posts). I'm allergic to hate, but I'll keep working at it. Because you're right and I'm wrong. If I don't like this selfish culture, by God I should leave it. What a fucking whimp I am!

Don't bother flaming me because I'm outta here and don't even want to read any more of this chicken shit. I do wish you a splendid summer and a wait-free pass into heaven when you drop dead.

Your best pal,

Stew in Ohio

[Vickers]

1. I miss you already!!!!!

*kiss*

[Walt Starr]

2. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

Reagan was evil. He was the precursor of Dumbass*.

[leftyandproud]

38. I second that. *NT*

[robbedvoter]

3. Awwww! How touching! How noble! how preemptive!

[Lars39]

4. "So let's kick Reagan and his family when they are down."

Reagan's policies kicked many families when they were down. Kicked 'em so far down they never recovered. People died because of his policies.

[playahata1]

5. Later, my man.

Remember this, though: Reagan's legacy is a matter of life or death for many people both inisde and outside this forum, and for all too many people, that legacy leans towards DEATH.

[Ripley]

6. I'm not participating in the "beat up" old Ronnie threads.

Not being a religious person, however, I don't understand what you object to when people say he's going to hell. Don't all Christians believe there is a Heaven and a Hell? If so, isn't Hell where people who did bad things go? It is pretty well documented that Reagan and his administration were responsible for destruction, suffering and the death of people in America and other countries. So, I'd say he deserves to go south.

I agree that sometimes people go over the top with their hatred of repukes, but don't let that make you leave permanently. I leave on occasions after south-bashing gets to be too much. Just take a break!

DU is a free and open board and intolerance exists here just as it does in any community.

:hi:

[Lindsey]

11. Ronald Reagan

closed down psychiatric hospitals that greatly contributed to the homeless problem, did NOTHING about the AIDS crisis, and I could go on and on. I am a loving and spiritual person, imho the current administration is not and they must go. I hope that Reagan passes soon for 1) his sake and that of his family 2) so it won't effect the election. That's all.

[mrsmonica]

14. ?

Bill Clinton cured HIV didn't he?

[Vickers]

There is more to the AIDS crisis than simply finding a cure

But hey, you knew that.








Right?

[Name removed]

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[Walt Starr]

23. Interesting ninth post

that's all I have to say about that.

[Mel]

35. Bwaaah! haa! haa!

Go Walt Starr! :evilgrin:

[Cannikin]

58. Mega ditto's on that one Walt.

[Vickers]

25. Gawd, I'm gonna miss you

Maybe we'll meet at some bathhouse though, OK?

Man, you didn't take long to show yer stripes!

*roar!*

:P

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[Vickers]

29. *sniff* Now you hurt my feelings

Bad, BAD girl!

BTW, I really am super-dooper smart. Thnaks for taking note of my super-dooper intellect!!!!!

You are a super-dooper person!!!!!

Edit: "thnaks" ??? Hmmm, maybe I ain't so super-dooper smart.

:(

[Lars39]

32. Inform yourself what Saint Ronny did......link.....

http://www.thebody.com/encyclo/presidency.html

[ronnykmarshall]

49. Well FREEPER

The bath houses in San FRANCISCO (smart of you not to use "Frisco" because that would outed you REAL quick) WERE shut down by then Mayor Feinstien.

Maybe your sorry freeper ass needs a little education before you show your ass.

[Walt Starr]

16. Interesting seventh post

that's all I have to say about that.

[buff2]

36. Yes he did......

He cured yours,didn't he? :nopity:

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[LiberalFighter]

37. Trouble is they don't believe in hell even though they say they do...

otherwise they wouldn't commit the atrocities they committed.

Doesn't say much for their conscience.

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[physioex]

8. I wasn't necessarily planning on going to heaven...EOM

:evilgrin:

[bahrbearian]

9. Taa Ta.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. Hate is limiting

tolerance and forgiveness aren't. Sorry this forum disappointed you, and hope you will be back. You'll find there are many liberals who aren't into hate.

[Angelus]

12. Don't let the door smack your ass on the way out.

Jesus Christ. Get a grip. We have every right to hate this man. He hated us.

He can burn in hell for all I care.

[datasuspect]

13. um, buh-bye

i hate haters who hate hate

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyway, who wants to go to heaven? it's full of damn christians!

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. A hit and run goodbye post

How original. :eyes:

"Don't bother flaming me because I'm outta here and don't even want to read any more of this chicken shit."

[molly]

17. Was he one of the call-ins to C-Span over the past

week - one of the "EX-DEMS" who are now pugs?

[rfkrocks]

18. When we follow personalty not policy we lose our essential Americaness

Reagan was one man who helped us walk down the plank of rejecting science in favor of the religious right view of the environment-James Watt was a harbinger of the disdain for scientific studies of the environment-Also we get to Osama-who is a creature of Reagan "blow back"-no 9/11 without Taliban movement we encouraged to take on Soviets-was it a good move-I guess you have to ask the families of the 9/11 dead if it was a good move- are we safer for that policy-I don't know but Reagan helped start it-Also the evil Iraqis dictator was propped up by him again in a bargain with the devil to counter the Iranian danger-the Iraq war is traced to his doorstep-what if we stayed neutral in the Iran/Iraq war? Would Saddam survive it?-just think-no Iraqis invasion of Kuwait-no gulf war 2, no Tim McVeigh, No DC sniper-He also created "voodoo economics" and huge budget debts carried on the back of the middle class-his legacy lives on-I don't hate Reagan-I disagree strongly with his policies and don't see how that relates to your point about raunchy movies

[Selwynn]

20. Regan was a terrible president - it's not "hate" to say so.

I don't hate Regan the person - but I hate what his administration did, and thing it was a terrible president. There's nothing wrong with saying so, so piss off Stew.

[riverwalker]

21. Saint Ronald

So suddenly the guy is a Saint because he's old and dying? It doesn't work that way. He lived his life as a shallow, superficial, selfish cartoon, and that's how he will be remembered. Nancy is no Mother Theresa either, she is just doing what thousands of others do everyday 24/7, and if the Reagans had their way,without any help from anyone. "Let them eat ketchup"

[BillZBubb]

22. Buh bye!

Reagan was a piece of shit. His policies started the huge wealth transfer in this country from the poor and middle class to the rich. He won't be missed.

[Renew Deal]

24. Well, OK. Here's some advice.

I have been hanging around here for about 10 months. I like it a lot. I have been in a few ugly fights here, especially during the primaries. Things are said (usually not personal). I do not and you should not take everything here seriously. It's just a message board. Things will be said and it doesn't make a damn difference in the scheme of things what they are. I saw the Reagan thread. I had nothing to say, but it's expected on a Democratic message board. Try posting the same thing at freeperville regarding FDR, Carter or Clinton. They would delete it and ban the poster. It would be a disaster if they didn't. So step away from the keyboard, get a grip of reality and come back if you want.

[Cooley Hurd]

26. Stew, I encourage you to use the "hide thread" option...

...and ignore the "WooHoo-Ronnie-is-gettin'-his" threads. There's still a ton of reasons to love DU. If not, then take a break until this is over. We'll all be here...:hi:

[Nlighten1]

27. Wow...

I'm sure your fingers are so tired after that whopping 102 posts...better go and rest them for a while.

[Name removed]

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[stavka]

65. I would hope people aren't judged....

I would hope for world where people weren't judged by the number of their posts, but by their quality.

[spotbird]

30. Will you send me a dollar for

every post you make under this or another name after your resignation.

I need tuition money and this could take care of that.

[FizzFuzz]

31. BEEP BEEP Cognitive Dissonance Alert BEEP BEEP

"I'm allergic to hate"

<----->

"Don't bother flaming me because I'm outta here and don't even want to read any more of this chicken shit. I do wish you a splendid summer and a wait-free pass into heaven when you drop dead."

[mopaul]

33. Stew225, we're tired of your Jive, if we could, just for you,

we'd keep reagan alive.

..........a poem by mo.

[shanti]

34. cya

wouldn't want to be ya....our reaction's going to be much worse when the chimp and crew kicks the bucket! evil is as evil does, and karma is a bitch.

[buff2]

39. Freekers can sure dish it out..

but they can't take it when it's shoved right back in their face! The way repukes like to drag our dem politicians, especially Bill and Hillary through the mud day after day is a disgrace...but boy,if you say one thing against THEIR guys and gals you have committed the crime of the century.I can't figure out why these idiots keep joining dem groups and then piss and moan about what they read. Duh....if ya can't stand the heat then stay outta the kitchen!Knowing how stupid freekers are,they will secretly come back and read all the responses to their exist posts. Gaawd... :eyes:

[parasim]

40. 2 words

Fuck Hate.

I was going to say "I agree" but I wanted to be more succinct.

The thing is, you're going to have a hard time finding a message board as lively as this where the participants think more like you. It's an Us vs. Them world. Both sides are the same, just the names change.

The "Can't we all just get along?" crowd is a small minority, in my opinion. I believe that is because we were raised to hate. When I was growing up, I was taught to hate the Russians.

At least they tried to teach me that, but I never could quite understand it. Because I was also taught to "Hate the actions, not the person." However, I could not understand that because war still existed. To me, war was hate.

I have a camera that my dad, my proud, decorated veteran of WWII and Korea dad, gave me that he retrieved from a Korean soldier that he killed. To me, that camera respresents hate. My dad was a great person and I never think ill of him for killing that soldier, but I hate the fact that he was compelled to kill him and take his camera.

That camera also represents love to me. Because I cannot help but imagine what pictures were taken with it by the original owner. I prefer to believe that the camera was used to take pictures of babies, and little kids running around and family portraits when everybody is squeezing into the frame trying to hold a smile... I'd rather not believe that it used to take pictures of dead Americans to be sent back home to show off his trophies or used as a tool to incite more hatred.

Anyway, I have no idea where I am going with this and it probably doesn't matter anyway, if you truly aren't reading responses to this thread and nobody here much cares what I have to say... but, I'll keep coming back because there's less hatred on this board than on others and there's a lot of posters here that I like to read.

Aww, the hell with it... I'm going to Hempfest...




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[otohara]

42. My Stupid Mistakes Did Not Affect MILLIONS

Reagan is considered a very nice man...Gee who do we hear that about NOW?

Who would you rather attend a BBQ with asks the media pollsters? The man who fucks over the poor, disavantaged, blacks, or the other guy? My guess based on your post, you'd rather go to the BBQ with Bush after all, he's perceived as a nice guy for some dumb reason. Just as Reagan is. These guys are not nice men...they extend help only to the wealthy and corporations.

Please - while I'm not going to jump up and down on the news Reagans' pending death, I guarantee you when Poppy and his evil spawns get sick & die I will dance on their graves.

[Judi Lynn]

43. You've generated a host of outstanding posts from D.U.'ers:

Excellent reading for the rest of us.


Bye bye.

[BigMcLargehuge]

45. tell you what, you can have my tickets to his long overdue funeral

watch as the media turns him from a doddering old idiot, tool the Neocons, dangerous moron into something akin to TIberius Caesar.

He was a crook, a liar, and the architect of the shitty state in which we find ourselves now. You don't want to stick around and deal with something as fundamentally important as free speech surrounding the death of "Grandpa Calligula", fine, not a problem.

We'll miss you about as much as we miss Reagan.

[Old and In the Way]

46. I don't hate Reagan.

I do strongly dislike the dupes that voted for him, though. Another clueless Republican President who allowed a lot of evil shit to go on under his watch.

[Cat Atomic]

47. I'm sorry you think "liberal" means "wimpy doormat".

I haven't contributed to Saint Ronnie's threads myself, because I don't see the point. He wasn't in charge anyway- much like Bush Jr.

But Reagan's administration hurt ALOT of people. They earned the hatred. As long as we've got this "play nice" pussy attitude you're talking about, we're going to keep getting exploited by corrupt people like those from the Reagan and Bush administrations.

That poor dying man everyone's got so much fucking pity for sent alot of people to early graves himself.

[Deja Q]

48. Pals help each other, and not run at the first inconvenience.

You're right about society...

Maybe the hatred of Reagan is wrong and disgusting. Looking at his policies and actions, and the policies and actions of those who have replaced him, some dislike is certainly not uncalled for. Especially when we are the losing party, being drowned in neo-conservative "values" and ideals that hurt everybody they touch, unless you're at the top 1% of the pay scale.

We're all human. And I normally pity the inhuman. But the inhuman are in power.

Moralize all you want. Reality is a far different story and we need to change current reality to make such moralizing THE reality. And if that involves being inhuman toward the inhuman, well that's fine by me.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

:hi:

[noiretextatique]

50. i have never done anything so stupid and shameful

as to affect the lives (and deaths) of hundreds and thousands of people in my own country and abroad. YES...AMERICANS ARE SELFISH IN THEIR UNENDING IGNORANCE OF HOW THEIR GOVERNMENT'S POLICY AFFECTS OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. it's also selfish to excuse the behavior of americans (including american presidents) by constructing so phoney hate vs. love dichotomy. that's why we had a coup in this country with barely a peep of protest...etiquette too often trumps doing the right thing.
i will shed no tears for reagan, or what he stood for and against. his legacy is a shameful one, and his soul is his own business.

[outinforce]

51. I Hear That Tombstones

are all the rage.

[babzilla]

52. don't hate the playa, hate the game

its too bad you're not going to respond to any replies to this thread (I'm pretty sure you're still reading it though) what I wanna know is WTF (for you non-gratuitous and non-wanton people, that stands for WHAT THE FUCK? err, f fun) does the "gratuitous and wanton use of the F word" in a movie have to do with anything?

I suspect what you are getting at is this: woe is the state of modern western culture, if only we could revisit the nostalgic halcyon days, that never existed btw, that Reagan built his political career on.

As far as the Reagan family "going through hell" if you have ever had a loved one who suffered through a lengthy struggle with a debilitating disease such as Alzheimer's you would know that there is a often a sense of relief upon the death of the loved one.

Quality of life matters. It is more hellish to witness the day-to-day diminishing of quality of life than the actual passing.

The Reagan family has had lots of time to prepare for Ronnie's death and I'm sure that they will be at peace with the event of his passing no matter what the evil DU'ers have to say about it.

In fact as reported by 60 minutes II his illness may have served to bring the family closer together than they ever were when Ronnie had all of his faculties.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/24/60II/main523094.shtml

The Reagan's Long Goodbye

snip

Differences of opinion have plagued the Reagans and their children down the years - and sometimes their difficulties were played out in public.
But now, the Cold War within the Reagan family has ended. Was it the president's illness that sparked the reconciliation?

"I suppose it helped. But then, as you grow older, you know, on their part, as they grew older," says Nancy. "It was a hard time. But things change. And you begin to remember just the good times and not the bad times.”

Today, Patti, the Reagan's daughter, is often at her mother’s side. She has written about her father’s battle with Alzheimer’s disease, and its effects on her mother: "My mother's eyes are frequently such deep wells that I have to look away."

[FizzFuzz]

55. very well said.

this is the kind of post our briefly visiting guest will miss.

[babzilla]

60. "desensitized to the point of sorrow"

oh the horror and inhumanity of not being able to protect your wife and 14 yr old daughter from the evil of the f-word on cable TV.

More proof that the end times are upon us.

[mitchum]

53. I do hate him, but I take no delight in his impending demise

However, I'm not very broken up about it either

[babzilla]

67. Rejoice brother

Reagan is soon to be "promoted to glory" hallelujah y'all!

[VolcanoJen]

54. Ciao!!!

:hi:

[VolcanoJen]

56. Stew, when Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton die...

... I hope you'll run over to some conservative sites and hold up your mantle with pride, and prejudice. Make sure to tell them you're never coming back, 'k?

[bhunt70]

57. I no longer dislike Ronnie and Family, they are no longer relevent

except in the minds of people who think he was a hero. He did a lot of bad for this country, but Im not going to personally wish ill or pain on his family even though the scars he caused for some still hurt them to this day.

[mandyky]

59. Boy am I glad I stayed out of these threads...

kicking the dead, dying or down doesn't look good on anyone...
I don't have anything good to say about Reagan, and that's where Mom's advice kicks in "If you can't say something good, don't say anything"....

[AwakeAtLast]

63. Agreed.

I just logged in and trying to catch up. I saw the postings last night. I read them, disagreed with some of them, and did not respond to any of them.

Just to let you all know, I am hovering around +100 posts, but you have not scared me away. I like reading different viewpoints even though I may not agree. I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

[Liberal Classic]

61. Two wrongs don't make a right

Bully post. As someone caring for one of my family with alzheimer's I find sniping more than just petty.

[spanone]

62. After 102 posts you better give your little brain a rest.

[stavka]

64. Very Sorry to See you Go

I agree with you - and wish you'd stay.

[Straight Shooter]

66. Ronnie hoodwinked everyone with pseudo-style over substance

and it has reached its inevitable stage with the warped stage-crafting of Dubya.

Ronnie Reagan was a doddering old fool, and a criminal. We don't hate him for what he is now, he isn't anything now. We hate him for what he was, for what he did, for what he didn't do, for the way he thought, for his total lack of mercy to the unfortunates in society.

Reagan was the first Great Pretender, and now America will never be free of them.

[Liberal Classic]

68. Aren't these mutually exclusive?

Doddering old fool yet great hoodwinker. Not only is he dumb as a sack of rocks, he's an evil demented genius as well!

:evilgrin: