need help, exactly what is it osama and company are pushing for

[okieinpain]

daughter taking a college course on what motivates people to get involved in mass movements.

[forgethell]

1. I always thought

that Eric Hoffer's Thr True Believer gave a great insight into the psychology of mass movements. However, it has been over 25 years since I read it.

[okieinpain]

2. I do believe that is one of the books that the prof has her reading

[mia]

3. sovereignity and self determination ?

Understanding Evil: Zimbardo

"without altering the fundamental sources of anti-American and anti-democratic beliefs and values in other nations, new replacements will emerge for each tyrant leader we punish or kill."

"We need also to better appreciate cultural ways of being that differ from our own, as well as acknowledge "the dark side of religion" in terms of how religiously-based value systems can be perverted to justify and reward the most horrendous of human deeds."



Regarding mass movements, look for insights related to terrorism and groupthink.

[blm]

4. Osama and Bush supporters want a Holy War

so they can BOTH say they have fulfilled their prophecies.

They are both full of shit and just using religion to cover for their own power trips.

[Yupster]

5. He wants a Dar Es Salaam

A House of Peace.

An entirely Muslim world, peaceful because all know the laws and follow them.

He'll start by kicking all infidels out of Muslim lands, and overthrow any Muslim government that does not follow the laws of Islam.

[salin]

6. unifying the Muslim world against an external "evil" threat

then overthrowing various regimes within the Arab world molded in a Wabbist theocracy (think broad scale Taliban.) Our role - is the external threat needed to bring diverse nations and theological divisions, and ethnic divisions to unite. Sadly - the way we have responded in DC has played into this scenario.

[seabeyond]

7. have her read mohommad in the koran

adn she will understand the motivation. add poverty and dictatorship and lack of education and the swaying chanting of death to,.........you got mob rule

[seabeyond]

8. and for the fun of it

have her do the research of old testament, and the fundies of today, to create the sheep in a little less obvious manner. creating the poor and the feeding of righteous

[gpandas]

9. he wants the infidels and their influence out of mulim countries..

especially the armed forces of america.