China and USA - The future

[EldreEdda]

Are you worried? China has for the past 25 years had a tremendous average economic growth of 9 %, and the country will inevitably be stronger than America sooner or later. What do you think of this? Do you think that the US should try to prevent China from rising to retain US dominance in world politics?

[EldreEdda]

1. in 20-30 years...

You don't worry that much?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. China will rise

they have more people than any other country. As they gain economically, wealth will flow east to them. Free markets always follow the highest bidder for goods and the lowest bidder for production costs. America is on the decline economically, and has been for some time. Now we see a brain drain as innovations are created elsewhere.

Our only hope in surviving as something more than an economic backwater is to solve the energy problem by creating renewable fuels with stuff we have in abundance-hydrogen is just one example. Soybean oil can be used in diesel engines right now without any modifications. Cost has been the only reason it hasn't been deployed widely. If we choose not to use alternative fuels technology to get us off oil, we're toast.

[Warpy]

3. not only that, but

we are steadily transferring our manufaturing base to them, and I'm not talking about the cheap, tinny tools and WalMart clothing. I'm talking about the furniture industry, electronics components, clothmaking, things you wouldn't think of but which will become sorely missed in the next big war.

Corporations transferring our industrial base overseas should be seen for what it is: treason. Helping their bottom line and fattening their CEO paychecks is costing the US strategic advantage even as it throws US citizens out of work and beggars the population not lucky enough to have won the genetic lottery.

China is not our enemy..yet. However, it is not our friend.

[bullimiami]

4. the shortsighted capitalist greedheads

are selling us down the river. It will end up in serious conflict with China the way they are handling it

[MisterP]

5. they're reaping outsourcing's benefits and rejecting its costs,

costs designed to force dependency on the globalized system of multinationals. Eastern Asia took out IMF loans in the early 90's, and economies melted down in the mid-90's thanks to restructuring. Should there be an anti-globalization alliance of Asian Tigers, the combined economic might would translate into a position of diplomatic and military strength--the Asian Century model, which the PNACers are howling to stop.

[troublemaker]

6. Such restraint is current policy but won't work

We need to stay on their good side (and brush up on the chopsticks)

[Bombtrack]

7. It is NOT inevitable that China will be stronger or as strong

Their GDP and military still is a tiny fraction of the US. Not impossible, bet definetely not inevitable.

[wuushew]

8. Sorry chief check your GDP figures again

and having excessive military force seems to be for bullies. Besides Tibet, China doesn't seem to be interested in building a empire of non-Chinese land masses.


http://www.photius.com/rankings/gdp_2003_0.html



1 World $ 49,000,000,000,000
2 United States $ 10,400,000,000,000
3 China $ 5,700,000,000,000
4 Japan $ 3,550,000,000,000
5 India $ 2,660,000,000,000
6 Germany $ 2,184,000,000,000
7 France $ 1,540,000,000,000
8 United Kingdom $ 1,520,000,000,000
9 Italy $ 1,438,000,000,000
10 Russia $ 1,350,000,000,000
11 Brazil $ 1,340,000,000,000
12 Korea, South $ 931,000,000,000
13 Canada $ 923,000,000,000
14 Mexico $ 900,000,000,000
15 Spain


The more relevant per capita GDP can be found here
http://www.worldfactsandfigures.com/gdp_country_desc.php

[EldreEdda]

9. Dont you think?

Their GDP is about 1,5 trillion dollars atm at market-exchange rate, of course much higher in purchasing power parity. The US at about 10,5 trillion. China has about a 7th of the US GDP, but has been growing three times as fast for the last decades. Wouldn't it be just a matter of time?