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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:06 PM
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Would President Gore have declared war on Iraq in 2003-A?
A being the Alternate timeline that is pResident Dubya free. For that matter, would President Gore have even declared war on Iraq in timeline-A?

I would have thought no, but then someone here mentioned Gore in 2002 saying something that could be construed as that we have to go into Iraq.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:11 PM
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1. As with almost any other reasonable Democrat, we would have delayed more
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 09:12 PM by jpgray
And more delay means more time for inspections, more time for diplomacy, &c. All that would tend towards not invading. The resolution would have likely been more restricting without the executive branch's drumbeat silencing or neutralizing the dissent.

(this is an 'at least' answer, in my view we would not have had even the drumbeat to war with a sensible Democrat in office)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:12 PM
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2. of course not
under Gore, 9/11 would not have happened. so,

the invasion of Afghanistan would not have happened. so,

certainly the occupation of Iraq would not have happened.

Gore is not a oil whore.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:12 PM
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3. Hell no!
Even though Clinton flirted with the idea, I think Gore would have concentrated more on bin Laden. I believe 9/11 would have happened regardless of who the president is.

Iraq was a Bush ego war, first and foremost. Besides, no way a Republican congress lets Gore invade Iraq. For Bush, on the other hand...
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:13 PM
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5. The Republicans tried to push Clinton into an Iraq war
Don't be too sure that the neo-cons mind terribly who enacts their craven policies.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:19 PM
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21. PNAC even tried to push Clinton...
They also tried to get Gingrich and Lott to try and push Clinton. He blew them off as the assholes that they were.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:14 PM
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6. What if one of the houses went to the Dems in 2002?
Would they have let Gore do it?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:03 PM
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18. If Gore Had Been Elected, 9/11 as we know it would not have happened
They would have crashed it into the White House instead to blow away Gore.
President Lieberman would have started the the PNAC wars. He's made that perfectly clear.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:07 PM
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23. Gore listened to Richard Clarke during the Clinton admin, and would had
listened to him in Gore admin, so 9/11. . .who knows?
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blackmoonlillith Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:13 PM
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4. Would Gore have created the OSP?
Would Gore have purposefully lied about WMD over and over and over again?\

Would Gore have gone against the UN?

Would Gore have allowed war profiteers free reign in Iraq?

Would Gore have picked Bremer and Chalabi?

Is Gore a neocon?

These are of course rhetorical questions. The answer to them is my answer to your question. NO
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:16 PM
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7. No. Gore wasn't obessed with Iraq.
No.

Gore wasn't obessed with Iraq.

Amd Gore urged caution in 2002.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:17 PM
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8. of course not. The "reasons" to go were completely manufactured by Bushco
Hell, even Colin Powell in 2001 said Iraq was totally contained and wasn't a threat to anybody.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2001/933.htm
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:23 PM
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9. I don't see why not, though there are many variables
The same people cheering Bush on now watched with a smile as Clinton/Gore bombed & starved Iraq for the decade previous..
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:23 PM
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10. gore would have gotten the un and/or nato to smash bin laden/al qaeda
and that would have been that.

no wholesale "war", no toppling of governments, just a targetted roundup of murderous criminals.

as for saddam, he was 100% contained, and very, very little threat to anyone outside iraq. afghanistan was overkill, but it made some sense. iraq was just plain stupid.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:27 PM
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11. No. Why? Saddam was a failing and failed despot, contained w/UN
oversight. His regime had a limited time.

He was an easy tactical target.

I will never buy our administration's "are things better off" bait an' switch.


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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:28 PM
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12. No I honestly don't think he would have
I also honestly wonder if 9/11 would have happened if Gore had been in office.

Shrug.

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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:29 PM
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13. No way
Gore understood the need for allies and he would have continued the policy of the past years about preemptive wars-we don't have them-it took a real "visionary" to change that policy
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:34 PM
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14. why would he?
Iraq was not a threat and Gore is not a puppet for Israel or the oil industry.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:35 PM
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15. But... but... Ralph Nader said there's no difference!
Pepsi/Coke... Coke/Pepsi. You mean, there IS a difference??? Oh dear. I suppose I should've actually done some research, instead of listening to my idealistic hippie friends! ;-)
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:40 PM
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16. I'm kind of shocked anyone on DU would even ask that
Would Gore have invaded Norway? Mexico? The Phillipines?

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:21 PM
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22. Major ditto.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:19 PM
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25. He couldn't even invade his own state!
Wait a sec... my RW talking points seem to be out of order. I'll get back to you.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 09:44 PM
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17. He already commented on this. He said no. nt
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:07 PM
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19. No, because he didn't need to prop up Halliburton, who was losing $$
at the rate of 1 BILLION dollars a year. He didn't have a huge pension and options and whatnot from Halliburton, so he didn't need to ensure that Halliburton got a 1 BILLION dollar contract this year for its Iraq work. It was a make or break year for Halliburton, and Cheney saved them....for himself.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:17 PM
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20. Absolutely not...
He wouldn't have been controlled by PNAC.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:17 PM
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24. Of course not. Why would he? It's like asking
whether Al Gore would have shot John Lennon if Mark Chapman didn't.
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